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[EnacheV]

It's basic physiology. As for trolling, you are podiuming all three spots solo; noone in this thread is worthy to tie your hairy shoes.

you are not even funny, just get out with your nonsense.

So now on to Javier Moreno.

What do you think about his yesterday performance?

A quick look at his history shows him averaging position 20-30 in time trials / prologues, with a solo exception in an obscure race few years ago.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Wouldn't call Wiggins doped until you see how he goes today. Talk of a high achieving season is probably just that.

I should have typed, "doping". Unless Wiggo wants to retire he needs to remedy 2013 for more $$ in next year's contract.

 

[del1962]

you are not even funny, just get out with your nonsense.

So now on to Javier Moreno.

What do you think about his yesterday performance?

A quick look at his history shows him averaging position 20-30 in time trials / prologues, with a solo exception in an obscure race few years ago.

EnacheV

I fully understand your frustration, yes their are plenty of hypoctitical trolls who moan on about Sky who are quite happy to support riders with a known doping past

I think that a Fuentes client like Valverde while unrepentant should not be racing and that his mere prescence on the team as their star detracts from the team

But I think you are reading too much into one prologue and Moreno as a rider from Andalucia could be given it that bick extra for this one race

 

[Ferminal]

Abarca have far bigger scars than Valverde. Every team will have well organised dopers who will do anything regardless of what their employers think. But then again I guess a strong proportion of "teams" (sections of management) are totally clued into the doping game and will ensure their most valued employees are on the same page.

I guess what I'm saying is that you could disassociate them completely and nothing would change for either party.

 

[The Hitch]

I should have typed, "doping". Unless Wiggo wants to retire he needs to remedy 2013 for more $$ in next year's contract.

Now is probably a good time to tell you that he's winding you up.

 

[The Hitch]

EnacheV

I fully understand your frustration, yes their are plenty of hypoctitical trolls who moan on about Sky who are quite happy to support riders with a known doping past

Now look who is bringing sky up in none sky threads. Oh but it's ok if you do it?

While I agree some who attack sky can be hypocritical, if you want to lecture others about hypocrisy please do explain the difference between attacking hincapie for telling on lance and attacking Landis for doing so.

Why is one wrong and the other perfectly fine?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

What do you think of the fact that Sir Brad can average 52km/h over 44km here:
http://www.cqranking.com/men/asp/gen/race.asp?raceid=23029
And he can't match that speed over 7km today

I hope to god many of these riduculous posts are not serious.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

This is getting funnier and funnier. Can't believe people find explanations for the today's ridiculous Movistar display. The very same poople responsible for 1000's of filler posts in Sky threads.

And it will be a very long year with a lot of results like this. Good stuff is just coming

oh lol you again. chris boardman used to trash prologues in tour and any race during the 65% era of the 90s while he was clean. if one element of cyclign says absolutely nothing about doping it's very short distance (technical) timetrials. but pls go on you're hilarious

 

[Netserk]

oh lol you again. chris boardman used to trash prologues in tour and any race during the 65% era of the 90s while he was clean. if one element of cyclign says absolutely nothing about doping it's very short distance (technical) timetrials. but pls go on you're hilarious

oh lol you again.

 

[Catwhoorg]

I should have typed, "doping". Unless Wiggo wants to retire he needs to remedy 2013 for more $$ in next year's contract.

I doubt anyone but Sky will have him, unless he rescinds his goal of a track Gold in Rio.
Next 2 years has to be highly skewed to the track to even make the team.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

oh lol you again.

ah I didn't know he was doped. care to elaborate on it? I never saw any proof that he was doped.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I doubt anyone but Sky will have him, unless he rescinds his goal of a track Gold in Rio.
Next 2 years has to be highly skewed to the track to even make the team.

He's definitely not going to Alonso's team then?

 

[Catwhoorg]

I responded in the Sky thread.

 

[webbie146]

what have descent, sprint and few corners have to do with a 52.5 km/h avg. speed completely flat prologue ? learn some cycling better and stop trolling with nonsense?

Dude he actually has a point. Instead of *****ing all the time just stop trolling yourself.

 

[Angliru]

idk how doped was valverde last year

for sure he didn't obliterate people in flat TT's last year so i guess he wasnt doping so hard.

You continually choose to ignore that there is indeed a difference between a technical prologue and flat, non-technical ITT. Why is that?

 

[the sceptic]

vetooo ‏@ammattipyoraily 2 min

#VueltaAndalucia, St.2. Virgen de la Sierra (last 7.25km, 6.69%, 485m). Alejandro Valverde: 18:20, 23.73 Kph, VAM 1587 m/h, 5.95 W/kg [DrF].

Clean numbers, Valverde must have stopped doping after the prologue

 

[hektoren]

Clean numbers, Valverde must have stopped doping after the prologue

Piti back on the juice. He is, was, and will always be as dirty as they come. Never admitted to anything, never will. Never apologized when confronted with unassailable evidence, never will. Cheered to by a nation of apologetics unwilling to disseminate truth. Sometimes only a thumb-tack will do.

 

[IzzyStradlin]

He is, was, and will always be as dirty as they come. Never admitted to anything, never will. Never apologized when confronted with unassailable evidence, never will.

I'll take that over "I stopped in 2006" any day. At least the sentiment is honest.

 

[hektoren]

I'll take that over "I stopped in 2006" any day. At least the sentiment is honest.

Nope. Honesty and Piti are incommensurable entities.

 

[EnacheV]

Just a small curiosity, do they make anti-doping tests after stages in this ruta del sol ?

 

[Dazed and Confused]

Just a small curiosity, do they make anti-doping tests after stages in this ruta del sol ?

That would be Cookson's call.

 

[TourOfTexas]

Piti back on the juice. He is, was, and will always be as dirty as they come. Never admitted to anything, never will. Never apologized when confronted with unassailable evidence, never will. Cheered to by a nation of apologetics unwilling to disseminate truth. Sometimes only a thumb-tack will do.

Pretty good summation. I can't stand that worthless 130lbs of flesh. I hope his coffee is cold every morning, he gets herpes, and the government tax collectors hound him into financial ruin.

 

[hektoren]

Pretty good summation. I can't stand that worthless 130lbs of flesh. I hope his coffee is cold every morning, he gets herpes, and the government tax collectors hound him into financial ruin.

I can envisage loss of hair (getting there), impotence, a wife's infidelity, a son with a limp wrist and a multitude of other bad things to happen for him, but most of all: the only valid sentence for mr. pitiful is to be thrown out of cycling once and for all. His latest results should alert every doping-tester working under the auspices of WADA. I look forward to the day.....

 

[Libertine Seguros]

From Puerto to his ban in 2010, Piti was a wanted man. Yet he kept putting in the results and never tested positive. His results in the Ruta del Sol are not incommensurate with the results he was putting out in that period. Whatever he was doing in that period of time was obviously working, so why not go back to it? It's not like he's suddenly started performing out of the ordinary for Valverde. He's just being Valverde and been given a route highly suited to his "win-the-sprint-at-the-top-of-the-mountain" speciality. I don't see that he's doing anything overly outrageous for a guy with his results. This isn't a new level of smackdownery, this is just the old level of smackdownery served with a nod and a wink from a guy everybody knows is shady.

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

Piti is accelerating away 300 meters from the finishing line like a boss. Only thing he can do, but he is damn good at it #respect