Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

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As I predicted the first mountain stage, Quintana is a pure clumber and with more mountain stages on the lesg he could put time one day to Froome, that is not a pure climber, and more of we talk of this short stages, bacouse Froome prefer long stages,

Anyway Froome is very good in this kind of long climbs, as we see in his first tour in 2008 in Croix de fer and in the thirs week, so except with Quintana he is putting time on the rest.

Quintana has years to win le Tour, I would prefer not this year becouse Froome deserves more Tours that just the one he has, but tomorrow everything can happend, and the best must win. Quintana showed in il Giro he is very good in a mountain climb ITT, and tomorrow is something like that... Alp D huez is a little bit hard fro Froome respect Quintana, so, everything is possible, Quunata has to do a "Sastre", but if Froome just let him go and climb intelligent, except a good crisis, with the level he showed today, he must win le Tour.
 
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AlexNYC said:
ray j willings said:
Froome was on the limit today ,,,,Quintana has no balls. You won't get 3 minutes attacking from there.
WTF didn't he attack at 10k or at the start of the last climb or follow Nib's attack.
If he wants to win this tour he has to go early. Looking how the gap got bigger at the finish Quintana let another chance slip by ....
If you want to win you have to lay it on the line ,not be scared to lose. Does he realise he's losing.
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK.

WTF... Who are you to call him a coward? You're not in his shoes, so how do you know that he's leaving something in the tank? This was the fastest ascent of this climb in history; just by looking at Quintana's face in the last KM it was obvious he gave all he had today. But here you're thinking he's taking the easy way out...

I'M Ray J and I call it how I see it ....if he wants to win he has to lay it on the line, not be scared to lose. If attacks early then Froome will have to follow then he may have a chance to get some real time or he may run out of gas but he sure ain't going to win riding like this.
I don't care about times. Quintana should have gone earlier if HE WANTS TO WIN .

About for his shoes, what size feet does he have? If they fit and if you can send me a pair I would happily wear them but they most likely would fit my 8 year old son :D
 
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Taxus4a said:
As I predicted the first mountain stage, Quintana is a pure clumber and with more mountain stages on the lesg he could put time one day to Froome, that is not a pure climber, and more of we talk of this short stages, bacouse Froome prefer long stages,

Anyway Froome is very good in this kind of long climbs, as we see in his first tour in 2008 in Croix de fer and in the thirs week, so except with Quintana he is putting time on the rest.

Quintana has years to win le Tour, I would prefer not this year becouse Froome deserves more Tours that just the one he has, but tomorrow everything can happend, and the best must win. Quintana showed in il Giro he is very good in a mountain climb ITT, and tomorrow is something like that... Alp D huez is a little bit hard fro Froome respect Quintana, so, everything is possible, Quunata has to do a "Sastre", but if Froome just let him go and climb intelligent, except a good crisis, with the level he showed today, he must win le Tour.

How many mountain stages do you want :D
 
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SergeDeM said:
Marco Pantani said:
If he wants the Tour, he needs to attack on CdF.
This.

Now it's too late. He had to go when Froome had no teammates, but the truth seems to be that Quintana is not confident enough of his abilities to go long range. When he tried that in 2013 he got burned but he hasn't realized that it won't be the same every time, especially in the third week when all your rival's teammates are running on empty.

It was a good show today, but gonig sooner would've made it a great show.
This.

He has a buffer now. Worth risking for the win.
 
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Worst day for me in this Tour.

You lost it here Nairo, I'm very dissappointed, this is not champions heart yet.
edit: Im pleased I wasnt wrong in the judgment I have believed (included in my sig), only waiting for numbers to back it up... but climbing its not enough when you are so-so GT rider.
 
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ray j willings said:
ILovecycling said:
Worst day for me in this Tour.

You lost it here Nairo, I'm very dissappointed, this is not champions heart yet.

Even worse than when Porte beat him :D
He can still win ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
Yeah but Porte basically took himself out for the rest of the Tour with that effort, so it was worth it :D
 
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Taxus4a said:
As I predicted the first mountain stage, Quintana is a pure clumber and with more mountain stages on the lesg he could put time one day to Froome, that is not a pure climber, and more of we talk of this short stages, bacouse Froome prefer long stages,

Anyway Froome is very good in this kind of long climbs, as we see in his first tour in 2008 in Croix de fer and in the thirs week, so except with Quintana he is putting time on the rest.

Quintana has years to win le Tour, I would prefer not this year becouse Froome deserves more Tours that just the one he has, but tomorrow everything can happend, and the best must win. Quintana showed in il Giro he is very good in a mountain climb ITT, and tomorrow is something like that... Alp D huez is a little bit hard fro Froome respect Quintana, so, everything is possible, Quunata has to do a "Sastre", but if Froome just let him go and climb intelligent, except a good crisis, with the level he showed today, he must win le Tour.

lol

just stop
 
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Quintana has no balls.
Waiting for the last 3k to attack Froome makes non sense. It should have been bang on at the bottom of the last climb. All or nothing!
He doesn't stand a chance tomorrow. And I actually expect Froome to make time on him instead... wait and see.
Great climber, boring rider.
 
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Is Quintana a definite for the Vuelta? Because he'll have some serious competition there: Nibali, Landa, Aru, TJ, Pozzo and his team-mate, Valverde. I wouldn't be surprised if from now on NQ and Bala ride different GT's, this Tour has really been like they are in different teams, They have never worked together to put Froome under pressure.
 
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"The little Colombian"? Surely by now Froome knows his name (Quintana). Very disrespectful at best, racist at worst. Not everyone is tall and very white.
 
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billcrain said:
"The little Colombian"? Surely by now Froome knows his name (Quintana). Very disrespectful at best, racist at worst. Not everyone is tall and very white.

You opened an account to post this comment in three threads. Seriously?

It's just a throwaway line, not disrespectful and not racist.
 
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A bit disappointed. Should have gone a little earlier.

No way he 's going to claw back 2.38 min tomorrow.

It seems Unzue's and Piti's negativity is rubbing on to him.
 
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billcrain said:
"The little Colombian"? Surely by now Froome knows his name (Quintana). Very disrespectful at best, racist at worst. Not everyone is tall and very white.
Stupid post!
 
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Escarabajo said:
billcrain said:
"The little Colombian"? Surely by now Froome knows his name (Quintana). Very disrespectful at best, racist at worst. Not everyone is tall and very white.
Stupid post!


July gets my ignore list going to epic proportions ;)
 
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billcrain said:
"The little Colombian"? Surely by now Froome knows his name (Quintana). Very disrespectful at best, racist at worst. Not everyone is tall and very white.

Don't worry, he does: :D

Oviously Quintana put in a real big attack there, I chose to ride my own tempo and try and limit my losses stay within myself and keep a bit of energy for tomorrow.

Quintana is a Colombian, and he is little, nothing disrespectful about putting those two words together. Bit silly perhaps - not like there are that many tall Colombians around - but not disrespectful.
Danish commentators constantly refer to him as "the little Quintana", which is just plain wrong; he's the big Quintana. :p
 
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the all positive view:

nairo is the most rested in week 3. illness in camp sky. stage to adh ridden hard from the begin. froome holding on to adh. nairo goes all in. froome on holiday in bonktown. nairo gains 2:30 + 10 bonus on froome who finishes 7 behind ac,niblles et al.

the realist view: like the positive one expect froome has an appointment in solidville and saves yellow. but nairo wins the stage.
 
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SeriousSam said:
Taxus4a said:
As I predicted the first mountain stage, Quintana is a pure clumber and with more mountain stages on the lesg he could put time one day to Froome, that is not a pure climber, and more of we talk of this short stages, bacouse Froome prefer long stages,

Anyway Froome is very good in this kind of long climbs, as we see in his first tour in 2008 in Croix de fer and in the thirs week, so except with Quintana he is putting time on the rest.

Quintana has years to win le Tour, I would prefer not this year becouse Froome deserves more Tours that just the one he has, but tomorrow everything can happend, and the best must win. Quintana showed in il Giro he is very good in a mountain climb ITT, and tomorrow is something like that... Alp D huez is a little bit hard fro Froome respect Quintana, so, everything is possible, Quunata has to do a "Sastre", but if Froome just let him go and climb intelligent, except a good crisis, with the level he showed today, he must win le Tour.

lol

just stop

Why?

As I supossed you didnt read my article about Froome story, un unpolished diamond.

I going to put that part for you.

"I saw him last year in some races and I could tell I was a good racer , "said Barloworld team manager Claudio Corti to Cyclingnews on the 23-year-old. After testing him out in Such prestigious one-day races as the Criterium International, Gent-Wevelgem, Amstel Gold, Flèche Wallonne and Liège-Bastogne-Liège, Corti Decided to let Froome be the first Kenyan rider to line up in the Grande Boucle.


"I Was Told at the Beginning of the Year That riding the Tour was possible - it was not one-hundred percent," commented Froome. "I went well in the beginning of the season and I Showed potential. really I only knew a couple of weeks before , there were a few of us up for the two spots. "


Corti did not regret his choice. "This year, I had his ups and downs, but I was good When I was flying. I remember the moment I was there at the basis of the [Tour's] Alpe d'Huez With The favorites - I did a great ride," I said.


That day they climbed Galibier and Croix de fer before Alp D Huez.

"The team manager looks forward to seeing his young talent develop. " He is strong in the time trial and on the climbs, in theory he is suited for stage races. He still has to Improve, he is young. " Froome Agreed with His team manager's assessment: "The two strengths That I have are time trialling and climbing, and I prefer longer events - Grand Tours make sense. I obviously have a lot of work to do on my time trialling and climbing to Reach That point. "

This interview is from 2009.

Schumacher was caught 4.7 km from the top of the Iron Cross climb.

The yellow jersey's group thinned down to 18 riders before the top Including: Evans, Aerts, Tailor, Arvesen, Schleck, Schleck, Valverde, Arroyo, Siutsou, Froome , Fofonov, Efimkin, Goubert, Valjavec, Kohl, Menchov, Weening, Casar, Moncoutie and Vande Velde. At the top, led by Velits 1'10 ". Soon after the summit, Pineau and caught the yellow jersey's Attacked peloton caught the stage leader and 30km from the finish. The peloton was at 1'50 ".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m70zrQCwUvU

In this video we confirmed that Froome is in sixth place (sec 21) in the favourites group, looking as comfortable as he said in his later statements. It is not the fact of being there, nor the fact of been 31th at the end. It is the fact he looked strong in key points of the Tour, and he had a mistake that did not allowed him to be top 15 or who knows in the Queen stage ...

While Carlos Sastre and Fränk Schleck out-foxed Cadel Evans on the Alpe d'Huez, Froome learnt the tricks of the trade.

"One moment, during the Alpe d'Huez stage, Corti called me back to the car to get more gels. I said, 'No, no. I am fine.' I just had one gel in my pocket. About four kilometres into Alpe d'Huez I blew completely and lost a hell of a lot of time. That hit home how important energy is, that showed me a lesson. He said, 'Why did you not come back? You needed about 10 gels, not one!'"

( http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/riders/2008/interviews/?id=chris_froome_nov08 )

You has to consider that the team had just 4 riders that year, it was a hard Tour for Barlowold, and someone had to help Hunter. Froome obviously want thinking in a place in GC, but to help Hunter and some days just learn what is a GT as hard as le Tour.

He knew just 2 weeks before he would be in le Tour, iot was just his first Year in Europe and his second as a pro rider. and his 4th year as rider, for Contador his forst was with 9 years of cycling, with the best school, not African Konika Minolta

If you consider Froome came from Africa, that he started cycling just 3 years ago with 20 and that his first GT was le Tour and he was so strong in the Queen stage and he was 14 in the last ITT, and if you compare with cointador first Tour, when he was always free to work and he couldnt be better of 30 in any stage, thet had the same age, but Contador had mucho more experience in cycling, if you underestand a little about cycling Froome Tour was more promising, but you need to look at the details and the hole story of Froome, not just the mediatic things...
 
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malakassis said:
the all positive view:

nairo is the most rested in week 3. illness in camp sky. stage to adh ridden hard from the begin. froome holding on to adh. nairo goes all in. froome on holiday in bonktown. nairo gains 2:30 + 10 bonus on froome who finishes 7 behind ac,niblles et al.

the realist view: like the positive one expect froome has an appointment in solidville and saves yellow. but nairo wins the stage.

Quintana is just a better climber that Froome, a pure climber.. this is normal, but the Tour is not just stages for climbers, every km counts.

People think that this Tour was very good for climbers...just becouse there is not much ITT...that is a mistake.

Froome prefers longer stages...there are a lot of examples but you can see quite well this year in Andalucia, he drpped Contador in a long stage with lot of small climbs...and was the oposite in a shorter. A short stage with big climbs it is better for pure climbers. But I think Froome will keep the difference. Today his mechanical had some importance... he needed to chase.
 
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Unless tomorrow Quintana wins by 3 minutes on Alpe d'Huez, he and his team, will have no excuse not to have attacked Froome earlier in th race.
 
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I'm glad I saw a real battle at last. It was too late, however determined it was, but it was there.

It's hard to say whether he would've been able to make up more time if he would've gone from further out. I somehow doubt it, but that's no excuse not to try.