Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[ILovecycling]

Nairito pics from TdF via Steephill ...last is Tousuirre attack

 

[ILovecycling]

Photos from Alpe d Huez stage (with consequences on the last pic )

 

[tristecsinamigos]

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Seems he thought he'd won the stage.
Was a bit confused when he was celebrating when crossing the line.

It seemed to me that he was just cheering the public.

 

[Escarabajo]

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Will he do the Vuelta?

Probably yes, to help Valverde to win it
But I hope he won't go too deep. Just in case he would ride Giro next year.

Not a chance that he would go to the Giro. Even with a TT at next year Tour, Movistar has a great chance of winning something with him everytime that he is at the Tour. I would be surprised if otherwise.

 

[SeriousSam]

Yeah, Quintana has shown he can win the Giro at will. It's the Tour he really wants to win and he should go all in at the Tour for the next couple of years.

 

[ray j willings]

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Yeah, Quintana has shown he can win the Giro at will. It's the Tour he really wants to win and he should go all in at the Tour for the next couple of years.

I think like Evans learnt after losing to Sastre ...you have to take matters into your own hand and not be scared to lose.

 

[fungusbear]

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Yeah, Quintana has shown he can win the Giro at will. It's the Tour he really wants to win and he should go all in at the Tour for the next couple of years.

He will go to the tour pretty much every year now I think. He was very upset that he had to go the giro last year and is clear that the he loves the tour and wants to win it probably multiple times. Only reasons I can see him going to the giro over the tour is if the tour route is like 2012 or if the team force him to the giro.

 

[Fernandez]

He will have to improve his TT. Its not gonna be a TdF like this year in the years to come. And this little guy can loose 2 or 3 minutes in a 50 kms TT easily. We will see.
For me Nairo is the moral winner of this race, if you dont count the loses of the second stage he probably would have won it.
The guy sure will want to come back every year to this race, but for him would be easy to win Giro and Vuelta every year knowing that these races are eminently mountainous. And for me would be way prestigious.

 

[ILovecycling]

Im worried you all right guys, otoh its true that he should go for the race he has the will to improve himself to the best level possible.
OTOH I was thinking about Giro-Vuelta double if Tour has lot of TT km and few multimountain stages.
But it probably won't happen.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

Quintana has to improve his ITT to have a chance to beat Froome. And probably he needs to not peak the way he does. I'm certain he'll win the Tour (or some Tours) in the future though.

 

[hfer07]

sorry, but the last thing that we fans of Nairito would like him to do is to become a "Tour Wh0re" and get caught up in that trend He has to make the most of his career span by winning multiple and "different" GTs, so his name won't be locked to a race that has declined in prestige & spectators value.

I'm all for it to see Nairito trying Giro-Vuelta Combo every other year as well as Le Tour in the same way, and perhaps give a serious go to the Ardennes if he feels like, instead of following a preset script every year

 

[dacooley]

providing the next tour isnot overloaded by timetrialing, i don't know who will be able to restrain nairito from take it.

 

[malakassis]

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sorry, but the last thing that we fans of Nairito would like him to do is to become a "Tour Wh0re" and get caught up in that trend He has to make the most of his career span by winning multiple and "different" GTs, so his name won't be locked to a race that has declined in prestige & spectators value.

I'm all for it to see Nairito trying Giro-Vuelta Combo every other year as well as Le Tour in the same way, and perhaps give a serious go to the Ardennes if he feels like, instead of following a preset script every year

but if you follow always the same routine, its more praktikal. you can fine-adjust better than if you scramble up the whole preparation every year. Lance prooved this with 7 in a row.

 

[del1962]

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Very good ride by Quintana today. Yes, he fell short, but it was a valiant effort. Posters saying he should have attacked more on earlier stages, but it simply isn't as easy as that. It was only on Stage 18 when I first noticed Froome looking a little bit tired. If you want to be hyper critical you could say that he should have went earlier on La Toussuire, but hindsight, as we all know, is a wonderful thing.

Regarding the crosswinds. I say bravo to Sky. Was it just pure luck that they got the gap, or was it good team planning to include some very decent classics riders in Thomas, Stannard and Rowe, two of which were up front with Froome. Let's be honest, the time gain could have been much more if BMC, with their numerical advantage in the break had perhaps pushed it more.

There will be other TdF's for Quintana, and with the exciting ending to this Stage 20 I'm sure there will be more penultimate stages with iconic mountain top finishes and every competitor will now know that they will need every second possible against little Nairo.

I am never negative to any rider, I just love competitive racing, so chapeau to both Froome and Quintana, they proved themselves the class of the race.

Nice post, I think it most likely that by the time Nairo retires he will have more tour wins than either Chris or Alberto

 

[ILovecycling]

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providing the next tour isnot overloaded by timetrialing, i don't know who will be able to restrain nairito from take it.

I will give you 3 random guys - Contador,Froome and Nibali

 

[ILovecycling]

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sorry, but the last thing that we fans of Nairito would like him to do is to become a "Tour Wh0re" and get caught up in that trend He has to make the most of his career span by winning multiple and "different" GTs, so his name won't be locked to a race that has declined in prestige & spectators value.

I'm all for it to see Nairito trying Giro-Vuelta Combo every other year as well as Le Tour in the same way, and perhaps give a serious go to the Ardennes if he feels like, instead of following a preset script every year

Nice to see someone who has the same interests as me, we are gonna visit combita this winter I guess

 

[Flamin]

Nairito confirmed in post-Tour crit I will go to, nice. Hopefully I can score a picture with him

 

[Taxus4a]

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He will have to improve his TT. Its not gonna be a TdF like this year in the years to come. And this little guy can loose 2 or 3 minutes in a 50 kms TT easily. We will see.
For me Nairo is the moral winner of this race, if you dont count the loses of the second stage he probably would have won it.
The guy sure will want to come back every year to this race, but for him would be easy to win Giro and Vuelta every year knowing that these races are eminently mountainous. And for me would be way prestigious.

He just need a really hard mountain stage and attack from far.

 

[Taxus4a]

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Very good ride by Quintana today. Yes, he fell short, but it was a valiant effort. Posters saying he should have attacked more on earlier stages, but it simply isn't as easy as that. It was only on Stage 18 when I first noticed Froome looking a little bit tired. If you want to be hyper critical you could say that he should have went earlier on La Toussuire, but hindsight, as we all know, is a wonderful thing.

Regarding the crosswinds. I say bravo to Sky. Was it just pure luck that they got the gap, or was it good team planning to include some very decent classics riders in Thomas, Stannard and Rowe, two of which were up front with Froome. Let's be honest, the time gain could have been much more if BMC, with their numerical advantage in the break had perhaps pushed it more.

There will be other TdF's for Quintana, and with the exciting ending to this Stage 20 I'm sure there will be more penultimate stages with iconic mountain top finishes and every competitor will now know that they will need every second possible against little Nairo.

I am never negative to any rider, I just love competitive racing, so chapeau to both Froome and Quintana, they proved themselves the class of the race.

Agree with you, just to say that in Glandon there was head wind and la Toussuire has a rest just before Nairo attacked, that is the only hard part, that was the best moment to take time, he cant go before becouse the difference with Froome wanst so big to drop him from far in no really hard slopes.

it is easy to say this or the other for dome kind of cycling pseudoexpert, but in the real world you have to take into consideration a lot of things...

Nibali got the stage, yes, but he has more permision and nothing to lose. And he is a great descender

 

[freekhuigen]

Nairo just came short of the tour victory, as he mentioned, "I lost the tour in the first week"
Colombian coverage:
http://thebogotapost.com/2015/07/29/on-a-roundabout-somewhere-in-holland/

 

[movingtarget]

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Yeah, Quintana has shown he can win the Giro at will. It's the Tour he really wants to win and he should go all in at the Tour for the next couple of years.

I think like Evans learnt after losing to Sastre ...you have to take matters into your own hand and not be scared to lose.

Evans did take matters into his own hands but was not good enough. What hope did he have against a team that had both Schleck brothers and Sastre ? The final TT confirmed that Sastre finished the race much fresher than Evans. Riders know what they are capable of and Evans knew if he was counter attacked he risked missing the podium altogether, he never made much inroad on Sastre's gap anyway even when he did chase. 2011 was a totally different scenario and once again only Evans knew how good he was feeling and how much time he could allow Andy before the TT, he was much stronger in the third week in 2011 than in 2008 obviously. The long TT only worked in his favour against someone not known for riding a strong TT.

 

[SeriousSam]

In retrospect, Sastre was very strong in that Tour. Though it wasn't impressive at the time with 2007 and 2009 being full *** quick years, his Alpe time has been bettered only by Quintana sine.

 

[hrotha]

Evans hesitated so much before taking matters into his own hands that it was already too late. He did things differently in 2011, and it paid off.

As for Quintana, he's learning the wrong lessons, blaming everything on stage 2 and what not.

 

[ILovecycling]

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Evans hesitated so much before taking matters into his own hands that it was already too late. He did things differently in 2011, and it paid off.

As for Quintana, he's learning the wrong lessons, blaming everything on stage 2 and what not.

I agree ,its a bull *** as several mentioned here.Hard to say if its just that article or if he really was fully unzueted.

 

[cantpedal]

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Nairo just came short of the tour victory, as he mentioned, "I lost the tour in the first week"
Colombian coverage:
http://thebogotapost.com/2015/07/29/on-a-roundabout-somewhere-in-holland/

Nairo lost the tour in the 2nd week