Teams & Riders Nairo Quintana discussion thread

[liamito]

Re:

So far, Quintana's showing the most of the Tour contenders.
Wonder if racing free June is still the schedule.

In todays press conference he mentioned Suisse as the most likely option.

 

[DNP-Old]

3º Tour de San Luis
1º Volta Ciclista a Catalunya
3º Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco
1º Tour de Romandie

I've seen worse ways to start a season.

 

[Moviestar]

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3º Tour de San Luis
1º Volta Ciclista a Catalunya
3º Vuelta Ciclista al Pais Vasco
1º Tour de Romandie

I've seen worse ways to start a season.

If he would follow the same pattern in his upcoming stageraces, i'll sign immediately for those results
3º Tour de Suisse
1º Tour

 

[sir fly]

Re: Re:

So far, Quintana's showing the most of the Tour contenders.
Wonder if racing free June is still the schedule.

In todays press conference he mentioned Suisse as the most likely option.

That would be a good choice. He just needs to take it with measure... Get the diesel going, but just compressing the fuel.

 

[May0maniac]

Re: Re:

So far, Quintana's showing the most of the Tour contenders.
Wonder if racing free June is still the schedule.

In todays press conference he mentioned Suisse as the most likely option.

That's great news, I'll be able to see Nario on the Rettenbachferner.
Racing the TdS before the Tour should be the best option for him, I'd be happy about that.

 

[Escarabajo]

Did somebody mention that Suisse was very hard this year? If that is so, then it would not be such a good idea to tire himself a bit and not get the most of the oxygen close to the Tour. Besides the idea of him doing Dauphine or Suisse was to overcome the weakness of the first mountain stage versus Froome. Now I am not sure about that. Looks like Froome is delaying his peak as well.

 

[trevim]

Re: Re:

So far, Quintana's showing the most of the Tour contenders.
Wonder if racing free June is still the schedule.

Well, to be fair, Contador does have simillar results this year to Quintana - they have both podiumed every race they have participated in and are 1 vs 1 in the races they have competed against each other. The only thing is Quintana has got a wee bit more fortune and is probably going to win two WT races, while Contador only won Pais Vasco. But looking at the form, they have been prety equal so far this season. It will get really interesting in July, especially if Froome finds a similar form aswell...

Quintana has beaten Froome's domestiques everywhere he showed...

Henao, Pais Vasco...

Henao will hardly be a domestique for Froome though

 

[carolina]

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Did somebody mention that Suisse was very hard this year? If that is so, then it would not be such a good idea to tire himself a bit and not get the most of the oxygen close to the Tour. Besides the idea of him doing Dauphine or Suisse was to overcome the weakness of the first mountain stage versus Froome. Now I am not sure about that. Looks like Froome is delaying his peak as well.

The competition in suisse is lower. He wouldn't need to do much to win.

 

[liamito]

Re: Re:

Did somebody mention that Suisse was very hard this year? If that is so, then it would not be such a good idea to tire himself a bit and not get the most of the oxygen close to the Tour. Besides the idea of him doing Dauphine or Suisse was to overcome the weakness of the first mountain stage versus Froome. Now I am not sure about that. Looks like Froome is delaying his peak as well.

The competition in suisse is lower. He wouldn't need to do much to win.

Perhaps we might see some rethinking among the Tour contenders with the lack of TT in Dauphiné?

 

[carolina]

I didn't know dauphiné had that problem, but I still don't see froome or contador doing suisse.

 

[Red Rick]

I think that with Dauphine there's just more room to tweak the training schedule at the last moment. Between Suisse and the TdF there's very little time. You first need to recover from Suisse, then you need to train, then rest the last days before the Tour again.

You can always ride the TT nats

 

[ILovecycling]

I dont like the TdS idea, his preparation ith RdS was great,he should not change that imho.

 

[sir fly]

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I dont like the TdS idea, his preparation ith RdS was great,he should not change that imho.

The TdS talk might have been just a politeness towards the hosts, but it should be the perfect dress rehearsal, nevertheless. Maybe not this season because of the summer schedule, but normally yes.

 

[blackmamba]

Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

 

[Bushman]

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Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

So boring to attack from 6 k out on first mountain top finish

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

So boring to attack from 6 k out on first mountain top finish

Tbh, that is kind of boring. It's also the reason he didn't win the Tour last year.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

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Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

There's something about him that I don't like. Like today, he didn't even crack a smile when he "celebrated" the win.

 

[AlexNYC]

Really great win for Nairo; his palmares is looking great. He mentoned again today that he's considering the TdS, but it's not yet decided. That would be a really nice race to win before the Tour too.

 

[Gigs_98]

Re: Re:

Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

So boring to attack from 6 k out on first mountain top finish

Tbh, that is kind of boring. It's also the reason he didn't win the Tour last year.

But there is a huge difference between the penultimate mountain stage in a gt where he had a disadvantage in the gc and the penultimate mountain stage in a one week race where he isnt behind any of the other gc contenders. Attacking from further out would have been stupid and he still was the first person who attacked (and I don't read any other posts where someone writes that Pinot and Zakarin are so boring because they attacked after Quintana)

 

[Escarabajo]

Re: Re:

Thank you Nairo for the win to a beatiful 9 odds

Rode boring as usuall tho and its only frustrating beacuse of the immense climbing talent he has and on the stage yesterday it seemed he was the strongest by far and could ride away and take a possible stage vicory even but he always rides like this, but chapeau nice victory nonetheless!

Hes definitely better and stronger than last year which is cool to see since hes still relative young, hes gonne be a dangerous force come this years Tour.

There's something about him that I don't like. Like today, he didn't even crack a smile when he "celebrated" the win.

That is strange because he is known for having this big smile on his face TBH.

 

[Põhja Konn]

I think the main reason for such widespread complaining about his racing style comes as a result of it not meeting many people's expectations.

Many expected that alongside the obvious and undoubted talent, he also possesses the ultraattacking spirit of the Colombian escarabajos of old. It has turned out that this is not the case. The result is that disillusioned fans are seeing his racing style as almost the second coming of Leipheimer. Such comparison would obviously be ridiculous, as in reality Quintana is no more conservative than your average GC rider.
The only big GC rider we have seen risking losing a podium place in the quest for victory is Contador. Compared to everyone else, Nairo doesn't stand out as excessively conservative wheelsucker as one would make out from a large number of posts talking about him on this board.

About last Tour, we will probably never know how much Valverdes desire to get to the final podium in Paris influenced Movistar tactics. But the way their respective racing schedules are done this year is quite telling in itself.

 

[Bushman]

I think the main reason for such widespread complaining about his racing style comes as a result of it not meeting many people's expectations.

Many expected that alongside the obvious and undoubted talent, he also possesses the ultraattacking spirit of the Colombian escarabajos of old. It has turned out that this is not the case. The result is that disillusioned fans are seeing his racing style as almost the second coming of Leipheimer. Such comparison would obviously be ridiculous, as in reality Quintana is no more conservative than your average GC rider.
The only big GC rider we have seen risking losing a podium place in the quest for victory is Contador. Compared to everyone else, Nairo doesn't stand out as excessively conservative wheelsucker as one would make out from a large number of posts talking about him on this board.

About last Tour, we will probably never know how much Valverdes desire to get to the final podium in Paris influenced Movistar tactics. But the way their respective racing schedules are done this year is quite telling in itself.

Well said.

People have unrealistic expectations if they expect him to blow up the race from afar whenever there is a mountain on the route.

The comparison with Contador is interesting but a bit unfair IMO. Contador has won so much that he can afford to risk a 2nd place for the victory since a podium place in a gt is nothing special for him. I doubt Contador would risk a podium place in the Tour and go all out for the win when he was 25 years old.

 

[portugal11]

I think the main reason for such widespread complaining about his racing style comes as a result of it not meeting many people's expectations.

Many expected that alongside the obvious and undoubted talent, he also possesses the ultraattacking spirit of the Colombian escarabajos of old. It has turned out that this is not the case. The result is that disillusioned fans are seeing his racing style as almost the second coming of Leipheimer. Such comparison would obviously be ridiculous, as in reality Quintana is no more conservative than your average GC rider.
The only big GC rider we have seen risking losing a podium place in the quest for victory is Contador. Compared to everyone else, Nairo doesn't stand out as excessively conservative wheelsucker as one would make out from a large number of posts talking about him on this board.

About last Tour, we will probably never know how much Valverdes desire to get to the final podium in Paris influenced Movistar tactics. But the way their respective racing schedules are done this year is quite telling in itself.

Well said.

People have unrealistic expectations if they expect him to blow up the race from afar whenever there is a mountain on the route.

The comparison with Contador is interesting but a bit unfair IMO. Contador has won so much that he can afford to risk a 2nd place for the victory since a podium place in a gt is nothing special for him. I doubt Contador would risk a podium place in the Tour and go all out for the win when he was 25 years old.

Did you ever watch tour 2007?

 

[blackmamba]

I think the main reason for such widespread complaining about his racing style comes as a result of it not meeting many people's expectations.

Many expected that alongside the obvious and undoubted talent, he also possesses the ultraattacking spirit of the Colombian escarabajos of old. It has turned out that this is not the case. The result is that disillusioned fans are seeing his racing style as almost the second coming of Leipheimer. Such comparison would obviously be ridiculous, as in reality Quintana is no more conservative than your average GC rider.
The only big GC rider we have seen risking losing a podium place in the quest for victory is Contador. Compared to everyone else, Nairo doesn't stand out as excessively conservative wheelsucker as one would make out from a large number of posts talking about him on this board.

About last Tour, we will probably never know how much Valverdes desire to get to the final podium in Paris influenced Movistar tactics. But the way their respective racing schedules are done this year is quite telling in itself.

Well said.

People have unrealistic expectations if they expect him to blow up the race from afar whenever there is a mountain on the route.

The comparison with Contador is interesting but a bit unfair IMO. Contador has won so much that he can afford to risk a 2nd place for the victory since a podium place in a gt is nothing special for him. I doubt Contador would risk a podium place in the Tour and go all out for the win when he was 25 years old.

I agree thats its not only unrealistic to expect him to be like Contador but also unfair for him, cause afterall its a reason Contador has gotten the satus he has, hes one in many generations.

That beeing said I dislike his riding style aswell, think its to defensive but I respect him a lot as a rider and recognise and appreciate the immense talent he has. Also as you mentioned hes still young and still progressing aswell as gaining experience.

 

[Red Rick]

His comments after the Tour last year really did it for me.