Nairo and the heat, it is a strange story. The recent years in the Tour he was complaining about the heat, but in the Vuelta he is always there ( 40 degrees today!)
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IndianCyclist said:Simon Yates is a very strong opponent, IMHO he is likely to winsaneguy said:This Vuelta has Nairo written all over it. TBH it is Nairo's to lose. Pretty weak field - some actually weak / some have different objectives. I would really expect Nairo to take this one. Has to be patient though. Dont know why he attacked today. Not really his style.
the attacking was just like in the TDF to show himself for the sponsors without doing too much probably orders from team
He has struggled in the heat at the Vuelta as well. 2014 was an example. One factor that helps him is that these stages are usually shorter and only have one hard climb. It is hard for the recuperation when you have multiclimbs.Moviestar said:Nairo and the heat, it is a strange story. The recent years in the Tour he was complaining about the heat, but in the Vuelta he is always there ( 40 degrees today!)
Pantani_lives said:He looks like the best climber, but I'm not sure whether that will be enough. This Vuelta doesn't have many tough mountains and he will loose time in the time trial. I think he's too passive and he needs to attack if he wants to win.
Koronin said:Pantani_lives said:He looks like the best climber, but I'm not sure whether that will be enough. This Vuelta doesn't have many tough mountains and he will loose time in the time trial. I think he's too passive and he needs to attack if he wants to win.
It doesn't. It's a route that is very good for the puncheurs actually. The Martins, Yates, Valverdes as there just aren't a lot of tough mountains and higher climbs. Plus the ITT still to come. This Vuelta appears to be one that will be decided by handfuls of seconds and maybe bonus seconds at that.
movingtarget said:Koronin said:Pantani_lives said:He looks like the best climber, but I'm not sure whether that will be enough. This Vuelta doesn't have many tough mountains and he will loose time in the time trial. I think he's too passive and he needs to attack if he wants to win.
It doesn't. It's a route that is very good for the puncheurs actually. The Martins, Yates, Valverdes as there just aren't a lot of tough mountains and higher climbs. Plus the ITT still to come. This Vuelta appears to be one that will be decided by handfuls of seconds and maybe bonus seconds at that.
Kelderman was unlucky as he is a bit too far back now but I think he will still make up good time. Valverde is still also well in it but needs a decent TT and maybe some time bonuses. Quintana needs at least one big mountain win.
Valv.Piti said:Theres Covadonga and Gallina. Both stages should suit Quintana very well.
Then you have Camperona, Les Praeres and Monte Oiz which are the typical Vuelta climbs. Quintana has shown that, when peak shape, he can put time into everyone in the world on those type of climbs, like he did to Froome and the rest on Camperona 2016. Thats more than enough climbs - and Im not even sure he needs to attack in order to win.
Don't worry, Quintana should win it easily.Koronin said:Valv.Piti said:Theres Covadonga and Gallina. Both stages should suit Quintana very well.
Then you have Camperona, Les Praeres and Monte Oiz which are the typical Vuelta climbs. Quintana has shown that, when peak shape, he can put time into everyone in the world on those type of climbs, like he did to Froome and the rest on Camperona 2016. Thats more than enough climbs - and Im not even sure he needs to attack in order to win.
Except there is still that ITT after the 2nd rest day.
Scarponi said:Happy with that , Quintana will
Massacre Yates on the covadonga
"You have to risk a bullet to win. Some bullets are good ones are some others are made of air"
A coded dig at team orders? 'tienes que arriesgar una bala para vencer?'Escarabajo said:Nairo's comments:
"You have to risk a bullet to win. Some bullets are good ones are some others are made of air"
http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/26191-vuelta-a-espana-tienes-que-arriesgar-una-bala-para-vencer-y-a-veces-te-sale-como-ayer-y-otras-es-un-tiro-al-aire-como-hoy-nairo-quintana.html
DFA123 said:A coded dig at team orders? 'tienes que arriesgar una bala para vencer?'Escarabajo said:Nairo's comments:
"You have to risk a bullet to win. Some bullets are good ones are some others are made of air"
http://www.revistamundociclistico.com/ruta/26191-vuelta-a-espana-tienes-que-arriesgar-una-bala-para-vencer-y-a-veces-te-sale-como-ayer-y-otras-es-un-tiro-al-aire-como-hoy-nairo-quintana.html
To the first bolded, my mistake. Bad Spanish from me.ClassicomanoLuigi said:Yeah, the green bullet, to be specific, hahaDFA123 said:A coded dig at team orders? 'tienes que arriesgar una bala para vencer?'
tiro al aire means "a shot into the air", by the way, not "a bullet made of air"
Quintana did "take a shot at it" but it kind of backfired, by losing the bonus seconds. I wonder if Quintana had just ignored López and kept going, rather than playing a guessing-game, whether Yates still would have won the stage...
All of the top five finishers looked pretty good, it was hard to differentiate today, maybe tomorrow will be more telling