National Championships 2013

[vedrafjord]

Irish championship course is supported to be pretty flat this year suiting someone with a strong sprint. Sam Bennett showed huge promise in the Rás last week taking two stages with relative ease and could the man to watch. Brammeier is going for four in a row but dont know has he the form. Philly Deignan also talked up his chances after California but could be too flat for him. Would be interested to see if Roche and Martin ride or will they be in preparations for the tour, Roche has only the tour de suisse pencilled in and after a couple of near misses in the last few years it and having a strong training camp behind him it may well be his opportunity to win a second tricolour jersey which would be huge going into the tour.

It's very flat, gonna be a few riders nodding off from boredom after 13 laps of this.

I know we don't have proper mountains, only big hills, but there are lots of great (and scenic!) potential routes in the Wicklow mountains, Donegal, Sligo, in the southwest etc. I guess I don't like the idea of a national champion being a specialist sprinter - the anointed 'best' cyclist in the country should be an all-rounder - I'd prefer a classics-style course.

 

[Ruudz0r]

Does anyone know if there is a livestream of todays U23 championship in Italy? I would really like to see that.

Im 99% sure there isnt but no harm in asking!

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

Does anyone know if there is a livestream of todays U23 championship in Italy? I would really like to see that.

Im 99% sure there isnt but no harm in asking!

No, there won't be any live streams today. Especially because the race is on 22 June.

 

[Ruudz0r]

No, there won't be any live streams today. Especially because the race is on 22 June.

oh I read a preview yesterday and it said saturday so i assumed it was today, but then I ll wait 1 more week !

 

[trevim]

"Before the Tour, I'll be riding both National champs, the road race and the TT - it will be a good test for me," said Costa, Portugal's time trial champion in 2010.

Hell yeah it's time to get that jersey and show it around the international peloton again! [It'll be hard though, every domestic team will ride against him; maybe he can come up with something if other foreign riders like Bruno Pires, Paulinho, Nelson Oliveira and Machado ride too]

 

[auscyclefan94]

What is the Swiss course like?

 

[Broth3r]

Question: do the teams have full freedom in regards to the jersey design? Because goddamn, I really hate this trend that appeared lately of only allowing a stripe with the national colors instead of a proper full national champion jersey.

 

[Alpechraxler]

What is the Swiss course like?

Here you go:

http://www.satigny2013.ch/cs/images/sampledata/satigny2013/horaires/H-Plan_&_graphique.pdf

16 laps =192 km

 

[Netserk]

What is the Swiss course like?

Earlier in the thread:

Switzerland:

Could be interesting with that drag up to the line.

 

[liamito]

Is there also a profile of the belgian road race?

 

[SKSemtex]

National Championship of Slovakia and Czech Republic
19-23.06
Elite race - 23.6.
stage profile:

http://www.msrcrcyklistika2013.sk/images/files/mapa profil Elite a U.pdf

Profile is not very challanging. I am sure we could design some better ones.

Sagan brothers, Velits brothers are on the list unfortunately Kreuziger, Stybar are not ???.

 

[Herr Katt]

Stybar is still rehabillitating his knee...

 

[RedheadDane]

National Championship of Slovakia and Czech Republic
19-23.06
Elite race - 23.6.
stage profile:

http://www.msrcrcyklistika2013.sk/images/files/mapa profil Elite a U.pdf

Profile is not very challanging. I am sure we could design some better ones.

Sagan brothers, Velits brothers are on the list unfortunately Kreuziger, Stybar are not ???.

It's... two different races, right?

 

[SKSemtex]

NO. It is one race. However it has two champs. Czech one and Slovak one. Sagan was only 4th last year in this race and became the national champ.

1. Kadlec (Dukla Praha) 4:32:08, 2. Raboň (Omega-Pharma-Quick Step), 3. J. Polnický (Whirlpool-Author), 4. P. Sagan (SR), 5. Hochmann (Dukla Praha), 6. Štybar (Omega-Pharma-Quick Step), 7. Kreuziger (Astana)

 

[RedheadDane]

So... they all race together (I suppose sorta cris-crossing across the border) and the first Czech to cross the line gets crowned national champion of Slovakia and the first Slovak to cross the line gets crowned national champion of Czech Rep?
Sounds rather confusing to me...

 

[Bye Bye Bicycle]

This is totally normal. Czechs and Slovaks held their NC races together as long as I remember. Same for Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania IIRC.

Back in the 70s/80s even Germany, Switzerland and Luxembourg held their NC races together.

 

[RedheadDane]

Why? Economical reasons?
Also, guess the "cris-crossing across the border" thing wouldn't quite Work for the 'Baltic Championship'...

 

[SKSemtex]

It is not so confusing for us. We were one country for more that 70 years. At least we have one race with some competition. The total amount of cyclists in both countries is very low.

 

[Gloin22]

It's always been that way. Logical.

Theres not many starters in both countries so combing both is a good idea.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

So... they all race together (I suppose sorta cris-crossing across the border) and the first Czech to cross the line gets crowned national champion of Slovakia and the first Slovak to cross the line gets crowned national champion of Czech Rep?
Sounds rather confusing to me...

They don't cross any borders. They take it in turns to host.

First Czech becomes their national champ, first Slovak becomes their national champ.

Remember that until recently outsiders could enter the Aussie and Kiwi nationals; an outsider could thus win the race, but they couldn't win the nationals, because they weren't a national of the country holding the race, so the first Australian or New Zealander to cross the line would become champion.

If you want to do the border crossing thing, maybe the Dutch or Belgians can put a one day race around Baarle-Hertog or something.

 

[Broth3r]

Question: do the teams have full freedom in regards to the jersey design? Because goddamn, I really hate this trend that appeared lately of only allowing a stripe with the national colors instead of a proper full national champion jersey.

Anyone?

Or do the federations and/or champions have any pull on it?

 

[Ruudz0r]

Anyone?

Or do the federations and/or champions have any pull on it?

I think the Dutch champion is not allowed to use a shirt that would suggest he is the German champion or something like that . So if they stay with the right colours they are probably free to do whatever they want.

 

[search]

Anyone?

Or do the federations and/or champions have any pull on it?

UCI rules say:

1.3.069 The specificities concerning the design of the national champion jersey are described in the brochure available on the UCI website. These specificities are applicable for all the disciplines.

Before production, the national champion jersey design (colours, flag, drawing) reproduced by the titled rider must be approved by the concerned national federation and must respect the latter’s dispositions.
Each national federation must have its national champion jersey design registered by the UCI, for each discipline, at least 21 days before the national championships of the discipline in question.
The wearer of a national champion’s jersey shall be entitled to match the colour of his shorts to that of the jersey.

that brochure by the UCI just mentions the surface area for sponsors and stuff, so the design itself is not regulated by the UCI but must be approved by the national federation

 

[Broth3r]

Much appreciated. That probably means the federations are docile when it comes to it - well, some of the at least. Spain's shirt used to gorgeous, and now you have Ventoso and his silly little stripe, which looks horrible on the blue background. Ugh.

 

[search]

if it needs to be approved by the national federation before production it's even more funny this kit made it through: