Alpe d'Huez said:
Good call Foxxy. I should have said the Giants played an excellent defensive game, and were solid in the playoffs.
That one I like. It describes it the best.
Alpe d'Huez said:
Of course if Eli's last name were not Manning we wouldn't have seen much more of him than, say, JP Loseman
I like that even more. You are on a roll now.

Same with Schumacher in the F-1. If there wasn´t Michael, the talent free Ralf never had made it. Yet he got rich out of the surname. It´s embarassing.
He couldn´t beat crash cowboy Montoya (whom I liked, because he had good racing once he kept his car on the track trou-out the race).
Alpe d'Huez said:
The whole "two Superbowl MVP" thing is almost laughable when you look at what he actually did, versus what the rest of his team (especially the defense) did.
Not almost. It is. Like Bradys MVP in 2001 behind a whopping 144 yards and 13 points scored. That tropphy became a joke that very year...
Back to pure luck: If your SB depended on a catch from a WR who wasn´t good enough for the NFL, that says it all.
Alpe d'Huez said:
As to arm strength, we'll, it's not everything or Jamarcus Russell, Kyle Boller, Jim Druckenmiller etc. would have won endless games.
Don´t know if Druckenmiller was that strong. Only heard about, but never saw. Anyway: Wrong system for such a QB.
Russell: I still wonder. Must have been work ethics. The talent was/is there. He shall get a 2nd chance, maybe...
And OFC, arm strength isn´t everything. But I just wonder how scouts keep picking butter arms... No one can convince me that there aren´t at least 50 QBs leaving college per year (or unemployed FA-QBs stocking supermarkets) with the same good mechanics and reading skills like let´s say Mike Glennon, but at least possesing the arm/meachanics to make the 3/4 difficult throws per game Phil Simms talked about. Those butter arms can´t. Nature and genes stopped them short, yet they get million dollar offers. Pure lottery winners in the right place at the right time...
Alpe d'Huez said:
Yeah. What a joke. Enough said. Like Frye or McNown (couldn´t even give the ball a spiral). I wouldn´t even invite them to camp.
As I said before: Scouts know nothing more than you or I. They can´t subtract team from individual performance, get excited about college stats... and then boom ... 50% first round busts, and the same time misses on the other side (undrafted/low drafted but talented QBs who just get spotted by chance. Like it happened with Brady, Warner, Romo and much more).
Go by hard numbers, and trust them. All you have is ball speed from the combine. Then test them throwing (like they do), but heck forget about college stats, wonderlic and 40 yard dashes. This BS missleads in spotting talent. If you have Korrodi at 63 mph, a guy that can make all the throws... heck give him a chance or two or three... same how you keep on playing high drafted busts.
Give Davey a 2nd and 3rd chance. He was soo much above the rest, all opponents of the Berlin Thunder took their LBs into deep DB-like coverage.
I don´t know much about spotting defensive talent (never got interest in it as ya all know

), but if they fail the same way as they do in QBs (and sometimes WRs/OLers), one thing is for sure: We do not see the maximum best talent on NFL fields. But given the contracts, that´s the way it should be.
Alpe d'Huez said:
A million yards off endless 1-5 yard passes. That won't work in the NFL.
It did. Remember the 80s/90s 49ers?

Just kidding. Couldn´t resist. Just waiting for MerckxIndex now.
Alpe d'Huez said:
As to stopping PM, or "noodle" armed QB's, I think part of the reason we're seeing so many short-medium passes is that defenses have fallen in love with the Tampa 2 and Cover 3 defenses and don't want to take the risk of getting burned on long plays. It's the same ultra conservative logic coaches use in rarely going for it on 4th down for example, no matter how many Stanford/MIT etc. number crunchers show it's a good idea. But I'm no expert, so...
Besides PM (quick release, thus hard to stop even with a weak arm, unless OFC it´s playoff crunch time and he throws real hardcore ducks), I think those QBs could easily be stopped (as I wrote in my last post).
But you are right (and I also said it); Coaches are too conservative. How in the world can DCs be afraid of being burned deep, when the opp QB can´t throw? It´s beyond me. How can they advise their CBs to give cushion to the WRs when they know they face the Glennons of this world.
And even if you get beat once or twice a la 5-95 Rice/Taylor-like, the next series you "kill" the talent-free QB with an Int or 3-out...
May SEA is the blueprint now. I don´t like them. But if teams copy them, at least we get rid of the pretenders at the QB position...