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Alpe d'Huez

Alpe d'Huez

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Edit: even worse they went for two instead of tying the game! Take the points against KC!!!
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I don't quite get that either. If they get it, they are relying on their defense to hold the Chiefs to not score even a FG, not advance the ball some 40 yards, which had been very iffy in the second half. If they make the FG, they are in the same situation, really, only the game is tied, instead of them winning. Well, the defense held, but since they botched the 2-point conversion, they didn't even get a tie. What kind of coach takes this kind of risk? This tells me the Raiders coaching simply doesn't understand the strengths or weaknesses of their players.

I know this is really Monday morning quarterbacking, but that last play was a disaster. Josh Jacobs had the game of his career, why didn't they either hand him the ball or design a play for him, even a quick out or screen, when faced with 4th and 1 late? All they needed was one yard to keep the drive going. Get another 20 yards, kick a FG and win. Instead, the Raiders went for a high-risk pass, that they bungled. What kind of play calling is that? It was also apparent that the Chiefs were going to blitz, or jam the line of scrimmage on the last play, at that point did Carr audible for that deep out pass? Why such a high risk throw? Why not look for a slant out, a quick toss over the blitzing linebackers, or as said an out or screen to Jacobs? I simply don't get it?

The Raiders also looked at times like they lacked cohesion, maybe even passion. Granted, Adams was really irked at the end, and they did start well. But they were also lucky to be in the game late. Compare this to the team that played with its heart for Rich Bisaccia last year. Am I wrong here?
 
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I don't quite get that either. If they get it, they are relying on their defense to hold the Chiefs to not score even a FG, not advance the ball some 40 yards, which had been very iffy in the second half. If they make the FG, they are in the same situation, really, only the game is tied, instead of them winning. Well, the defense held, but since they botched the 2-point conversion, they didn't even get a tie. What kind of coach takes this kind of risk? This tells me the Raiders coaching simply doesn't understand the strengths or weaknesses of their players.

I know this is really Monday morning quarterbacking, but that last play was a disaster. Josh Jacobs had the game of his career, why didn't they either hand him the ball or design a play for him, even a quick out or screen, when faced with 4th and 1 late? All they needed was one yard to keep the drive going. Get another 20 yards, kick a FG and win. Instead, the Raiders went for a high-risk pass, that they bungled. What kind of play calling is that? It was also apparent that the Chiefs were going to blitz, or jam the line of scrimmage on the last play, at that point did Carr audible for that deep out pass? Why such a high risk throw? Why not look for a slant out, a quick toss over the blitzing linebackers, or as said an out or screen to Jacobs? I simply don't get it?

The Raiders also looked at times like they lacked cohesion, maybe even passion. Granted, Adams was really irked at the end, and they did start well. But they were also lucky to be in the game late. Compare this to the team that played with its heart for Rich Bisaccia last year. Am I wrong here?
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I think their hope was they pulled off what happened earlier on the fourth and 1. It looked like the same play as the earlier fourth and 1, which makes sense for where the ball landed while running a pick play to open Adams up further. Adams is could have caught that and had a step but if they don’t collide I’m fairly center a flag would be thrown for the intentional pick. Instead Adams gets ran into by his own teammate. Which is almost certainly why he was frustrated.

I think the play call was fair to go deep to Adams as he was one on one. The running into each other was not. Nor not tying the game.
 
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Too be fair to KC, the game shouldn’t have been that close. They had the two missed field goals and the sack fumble overturned when it would have been a Chiefs touchdown. That alone was a 4 point swing in Raiders favor because they got a field goal that drive. KC killing themselves with not being able to find a backup kicker. Soon they just might go for it all the time.

Raiders will be kicking themselves that they didn’t get the PAT. Honestly McDaniels had been disappointing again as a head coach.

Edit: even worse they went for two instead of tying the game! Take the points against KC!!!
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Yep the refs strike again ! Some clutch throws by Carr and Mahomes but the run defense for both teams was putrid. Entertaining game but the Raiders keep finding ways to lose. Some teams seem to have forgotten that it's okay to take the kick !
 
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So he takes the loss out on a cameraman...brilliant. The NFL is reviewing - maybe a suspension?

Whether they like it or not, these guys are role models for the younger players out there - they need to think a little before they act.
 
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So he takes the loss out on a cameraman...brilliant. The NFL is reviewing - maybe a suspension?

Whether they like it or not, these guys are role models for the younger players out there - they need to think a little before they act.
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Easy way to cop a suspension...........
 
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Nomad said:
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So he takes the loss out on a cameraman...brilliant. The NFL is reviewing - maybe a suspension?

Whether they like it or not, these guys are role models for the younger players out there - they need to think a little before they act.
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Whether or not they are role models they are highly paid jocks playing a game. Taking frustration out on the folks that contribute to your salary base should cost the player. Teach them early. How many sympathetic and promotional action photos do you think he'll get from now on?
 
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He very quickly apologized, and said he hoped to do so to the guy in person. But still, it was a crap thing to do, and he should face a stiff fine, and maybe be suspended a game or so as well.

Got no problem with throwing the helmet. Equipment is fair game. :grinning:

The only player he should be mad with is himself. Partly because of the last botched play with Renfro, but also the previous play where he should have really caught the ball and gotten both feet down. Of course, plenty of blame to go around nearly the entire Raider organization right now. The team is maddeningly inconsistent, painful to watch, and capable of completely blowing every single game, including ones they mostly play very well in or have a big lead in.

After week 1, I was one of the people who thought the Cowboys were going to be a dumpster fire. My apologizes to that entire organization. The dumpster fire right now is the Raiders.
 
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Alpe d'Huez said:
He very quickly apologized, and said he hoped to do so to the guy in person. But still, it was a crap thing to do, and he should face a stiff fine, and maybe be suspended a game or so as well.
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Assault charges filed - definitely a suspension forthcoming.


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After week 1, I was one of the people who thought the Cowboys were going to be a dumpster fire. My apologizes to that entire organization. The dumpster fire right now is the Raiders.
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Same here - I thought Cooper Rush couldn't get the job done (I better start putting more trust in these backups. Lol). I believe I heard that Dak is cleared to play by the medical staff & he can throw the ball with his normal velocity without pain or discomfort. So, what does Jerry do? Insert Dak back into the lineup or stay with the momentum & hot hand in Rush?
 
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I hope the man who was pushed isn’t trying to fake an injury though because of who Adams is. He should definitely be compensated but faking to get a payday isn’t the way. Shannon Sharpe told a story of when he still played in Denver and accidentally rear ended someone. The driver didn’t know who he was and said he was fine, when the tow truck driver came and saw it was Shannon and started freaking out that he was the star TE for the Broncos the guy rear ended started faking an injury that lasted years before it was found out he was faking it.

Just like Adams should receive the time his actions earned him. Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
 
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I can't even watch the video because Mike is too irritating to stomach.
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I’ve been getting tired of everyone on ESPN lately. Funny enough I think Wright, Shannon, and Skip are actually a lot more tolerable on their own private shows compared to First Things First and Undisputed.
 
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That clip was too annoying to make it through. They are also wrong about the flag when Brady being sacked "the right call".

Why?

Because the league needs to be consistent. If you're going to change the rules to where you can't tackle the QB to the ground, then change the rules and let everyone know it will be a flag. Don't just all of a sudden have jittery referees do it at the end of a game against a star player, then try to rationalize it.
 
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The Russell Wilson trade and contract numbers still just floor me. Was the 2014-2015 Wilson even worth that?

Robinson's story sure is inspiring. Amazing, really.

I'll take Washington over Chicago. Maybe. On the road. Each week Fields looks a little better, but he still has a long way to go. Curious how he does against Rivera's scheming. I loved Al Michaels comment about how if this game is as bad as last week's, he'll retire!
 
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Things have changed pretty quick for Miami although Tua is now back at practice but their injuries are racking up including some of their best offensive weapons. Just watched the highlights of the Giants/Packers game. Amazing the difference a good coach can make. Some Giants fans are are calling it their most heartening performance since forever ! Eagles/Cowboys should be a good game. Agree that Chicago has a long way to go but the Jets and Giants are definitely looking better. The run in to the the playoffs will be the test for the so called "nearly" teams and some of the good teams have been hit hard by injuries already.
 
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Another bad TNF game though at least some touchdowns were scored. Surprised a flag wasn’t thrown for RTP when Fields got tackled low on the hands to the face penalty.
 
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Another bad TNF game though at least some touchdowns were scored. Surprised a flag wasn’t thrown for RTP when Fields got tackled low on the hands to the face penalty.
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Game had that kinda feel to it. No surprise in the way it ended. Good to see Robinson punch a TD in after his problems. Similar to the Denver/Colts game. File those two away..............
 
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Game had that kinda feel to it. No surprise in the way it ended. Good to see Robinson punch a TD in after his problems. Similar to the Denver/Colts game. File those two away..............
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Highlight of the game was the MC playing John Cena’s music when he’s hated in Chicago due to his rivalry with CM Punk. Yeah those two were both defende playing well and the offense poorly but both offenses got a touchdown at least.


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I wonder how much dirt he would have on the owners or bluffing to take the heat off himself.
 
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