• The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

National Football League

Page 616 - Get up to date with the latest news, scores & standings from the Cycling News Community.
GB has Rodgers under contract. So if a team wants him, they have to give up something for him. Likely high draft picks, and a few of them. Rodgers contract is somewhat friendly in 2023, then heavily back loaded, 2025 and 2026 are like $50m plus a year.

Rodgers and Adams strongly hinting that Rodgers will go to the Raiders, with Rodgers already buying a home in Vegas. As I said before, this would be like a Russell Wilson albatross if the Raiders traded for him. Far worse than if they had signed Brady. Adams says he doesn't want to be part of a rebuild, but win now. Well, Rodgers won't make that happen on that team, not with that defense. It would be a total disaster. But Mark Davis has a long history of illogical moves, so it's quite possible.

I can't see GB trading Rodgers to get Derek Carr. That's absurd. Just ridiculous. GB is either keeping Rodgers, or dumping him to a team foolish to eat his contract, and going with Love.
Why would Rodgers want to leave his Kingdom in GB & go play for a crap organization & a narcissist coach? Lol. Rodgers runs the show at GB - who's first to speak on the podium post-game? Without looking it up, I can't even remember who the coach is - "Matt" something I think? Lol. This shows you the power & influence Rodgers has at GB that he speaks for the franchise over anyone else & the media is really only interested in what he has to say.

Your Raiders are doomed again next season with that narcissist coach still at the helm. I know you think highly of him for some strange reason & believe he's a competent NFL HC. Ironically, you lambasted & called for the firing of Hackett but yet give a free pass to McDaniels? Need I remind you that the Silver & Black finished just one game better at 6-11 than those Hackett-led Broncos? And yet the Raiders have a veteran QB who was an early 2nd rd pick, the top RB in the league this season & built like a RB super-stud Adam's who snatched 100 receptions. McDaniels is a joke as a HC - he freaking couldn't win in Denver (11-17 in 2 seasons). And he couldn't win this season with all that talent.

But in a way perhaps they get what they deserve betraying the loyal Oakland fans & moving to sin-city. Spoon-fed Davis, who was born on 3rd base but thought he hit a home run, could have moved the team to LA with the Rams at least keeping the team in California, where the Raiders played previously (forcing Spanos to pony-up & build a new stadium keeping the Chargers in San Diego where they belong). What a screwed-up deal - the Raiders in LV & the Chargers in LA.
 
Last edited:
Nomad,like all your points.. Raiders were carpet bagging for a long time.. Las Vegas getting a pro team is a no brainer..
Spanos had 3 easy objectives.. put the team in flux,raises the value and starts what is always a bidding war. He achieved everything and he didn't have to move out of his house.. Slightly longer drive to work.
GB and Aaron Rodgers have lots of behind the scenes no doubt ,but for me GB has to look at the future and Rodgers doesn't.. Rodgers can stay get the contract money, and will get the iconic support of the fan base and he can really milk the loyalty card and leave out the part about a mountain of money. In my opinion he is not even a good emergency pick ..he is not Foles but he is on the ground more than an old guy should be and if he thinks the Packers o-line is porous Raiders maybe worse.. maybe you can teach old dogs new tricks but if Rodgers is thinking.., he will put his ego aside and cash the check.. Las Vegas is nowhere close to a Super Bowl team, with vet QB and a couple other picks..
John Madden is dead and he was the only thing I loved about the Raiders.. I always bet against them
 
Respect for Tom Flores would be appreciated. He was a great coach too, without question. :cool:

I wouldn't say I think "highly" of Josh McDaniels. I just am not one of the very vocal people who scream he should be fired after every loss. I think maybe more highly of him as I do Gruden, who was vastly overrated. But I am not one of the fire happy type managers who think everyone works better under threat of termination, and no one can learn anything or grow, certainly not from mistakes, and must be punished the first misstep they take. Lots of Raiders "fans" out there like this, not just McDaniels, but half the staff and players. If they had their way, they'd hit that reset button every single year. The irony is, a large chunk of them who if they don't want the team to go all in with Rodgers, want Carr to stick around, and the team to hire Gruden back. Yeah, right.

The Raiders biggest problem, by far, is defense. Then lack of depth on the OL. Their defense was one of the worst in the league in almost every stat. The Broncos had one of the best defenses, by comparison. An aging Rodgers won't change that for the Raiders, at all. Rodgers and Adams couldn't get it done in Green Bay, on a team with a better OL, and far better defense, in a much weaker division. There's talk about giving up a player (not Carr, who won't go there) plus 2 to 4 high draft picks to get Rodgers. Insane. Putting all their stock into him would be foolish. This is why I think there is a good chance Mark Davis will push to make it happen. He's not the most meddling owner, but he's often said one thing, then done another, and pushed horrible decisions at the worst possible time. The the firing of Jack Del Rio and Reggie McKenzie so he could hire Gruden and Mayock. Then pushing to get rid of Kahlil Mack because he was holding out. Then dumping Amari Cooper because he had the same agent, and Davis didn't like him. I'm sure I could find more if I want to give myself a headache. Mark thinks he's his dad, who did make great football decisions when young, in a different era, but he's not.

Rodgers and McDaneils would indeed be like oil and water.

Will the Ziegler and McDaniels duo be good for the Raiders? Their only hope is if Mark Davis reiterates the long-term goal of building a solid foundation, makes almost ZERO decisions, and keeps his trap closed. But he's yet to do that in the years he's owned the team. The only hope may be if Dave Ziegler, when pushed by Mark, threatens to walk. But even Gruden would only stand up to Davis for so long.

Mark easily could have moved the team to LA. He also could have easily accepted the $600m stadium Oakland offered, which would have been one of the better stadiums in the league. But he followed the money to Vegas when he got the city to build him a $1.9b monstrosity, that now charges some of the most expensive tickets in sports. And he wonders, in this tourist town, why half the seats are filled with fans from opposing teams? The Oakland Raiders had some of the most loyal fans in sports. Even when the team was in LA they had loyal fans. Both the hispanics (Flores and Plunkett a big influence, obviously) but also the early rap/NWA, Run DMC crowds too. Lots of people in LA loved the Raiders. Moving the team to Vegas was all about greed. And Mark's personal wealth has more than doubled in the last two years, even with empty seats at Allegiant, and a lack of big game TV revenue.

One reason Rodgers may be buying a house in Vegas is the lack of taxes.

I lived in Nevada, both the Vegas area, and Reno. Gambling addiction is a sickness. Gambling is one of the worst forms of psychological addiction as well. It's random reward with a significantly small amount of skill involved (not including blackjack and professional poker players). Plus, with gambling in an addict's mind the money to be won is limitless, and money can be translated into whatever you dream. Houses, cars, round the world vacations, etc. The fact that the league has partnered with these gambling institutions isn't just bothersome, it's disgraceful.

Credit to the city of Reno. There's still a casinos there, but if you visit the city now they have really diversified growing business development there. Vegas is still the same as before however. An adult gambling disney-like spectacle for aspiring addicts and people with more money than sense.

Sorry for such a long, rambling post. Touched a nerve.
 
I've had my own take on how gambling revenue would impact sports in general and NFL dynamics specifically. It will bring more money to owners, the league and some to the players who now face more games per year. Would there be a temptation for players, officials, coaches...even owners to cheat? They already do for no additional money so, of course it will happen.
The amount of Hollywood actors and ex sports stars shilling for gambling companies now is sickening and the commercials are played regularly and everywhere. The amounts of money involved just in running so much advertising must be huge.
 
Wilkes is a fantastic hire for the 49ers! Huge grab for Lynch (and Shanahan). No licking their wounds, they are planning for next season right now. Pedal to the metal.
So Sean Payton is reportedly not going to allow Russell's "performance" entourage...
Great post.

Greg Penner said he planned to hire a strong leader, a CEO type, and hand them the keys. As I noted before, I'm almost certain Sean will have total control over almost all decisions, and this quick decision is exactly what Penner is expecting. Sean won't need to bring Drew Brees in though. If Russell doesn't get the message from Sean directly, then there is no moving forward for him.
Flores should be good for the Vikings defense.
Very much agree. Kirk Cousins gets a lot of flak, and he's never going to be a HOF great, but the way they were blown out by the Cowboys, then fell behind and stayed behind the Giants wasn't his fault at all. It was their defense.

Not sure what Arizona is going to do now. They and Indianapolis are the only teams left without an HC. My gut tells me one or both teams are waiting to make a serious run at Eric Bienemy, or Shane Steichen. Both interviewed with the Colts, and Bienemy said the interview went great. That may be a clue. Also, Jim Irsay has given mixed signals, saying it will be days before he announces. That may mean he doesn't want to jinx either of these guys, or distract them before Sunday. Though Irsay has a long history of doing whatever he wants. I will give the guy huge props though for speaking out directly against Daniel Snyder, and not wanting he or his family to have anything to do with the Commanders.
 
Not sure what Arizona is going to do now. They and Indianapolis are the only teams left without an HC. My gut tells me one or both teams are waiting to make a serious run at Eric Bienemy, or Shane Steichen. Both interviewed with the Colts, and Bienemy said the interview went great. That may be a clue. Also, Jim Irsay has given mixed signals, saying it will be days before he announces. That may mean he doesn't want to jinx either of these guys, or distract them before Sunday. Though Irsay has a long history of doing whatever he wants. I will give the guy huge props though for speaking out directly against Daniel Snyder, and not wanting he or his family to have anything to do with the Commanders.
You're saying Bieniemy may finally get his chance?
 
I don't know if Biemeny will get a HC job or not? He's likely a top candidate out of everyone left, but there's still a lot of cracker owners in the NFL, if that's what you mean.

Glad they are able to have the roof open in the Super Bowl and let in...oh wait. Are people going to be okay there in 65 degree sunny weather?
Good stuff! Good to see Blount too, I loved the way that he ran the ball! No one in Boise will ever forget him!
To Blount's credit, he immediately apologized after the game flatly admitting he was in the wrong. He then called both the player he hit, and the coach directly and apologized. Chip Kelly suspended him for the season, and he initially accepted the suspension, though he was later reinstated after a few games, but sat on the bench his first game back in uniform. Karma still caught up to Blount. The Ducks made it to the Rose Bowl, but he had a very costly fumble in the 4Q that cost the Ducks the game. He wasn't even drafted as a result of all this.

I honestly think being on New England, and having to follow discipline under Belicheck, and Brady, was the best thing that ever happened to him, his life and career.
 

I always thought a player had to be on the 53 at SB time to get a ring? I didn't even think practice squad players traveled with the team to the SB. So, if the Chiefs win, Gordon cut by the Broncos & picked-up by KC & placed on their practice squad, will get his first ring.
 

I always thought a player had to be on the 53 at SB time to get a ring? I didn't even think practice squad players traveled with the team to the SB. So, if the Chiefs win, Gordon cut by the Broncos & picked-up by KC & placed on their practice squad, will get his first ring.
There’s a lot of people who get rings but sometimes they’re a lesser quality.
 
Rohan Davey has two Super Bowl rings, having thrown a whopping 8 passes his entire NFL career. Here's a good article on guys who got multiple rings, doing almost nothing.

Did you know Davis Carr has a ring? Yes, that David Carr. Blaine Gabbert has a ring as well, LeSean McCoy does too.

To me, Dennis Dixon's career is an enigma. He was sort of RGIII, before RGIII. He was a fast, dual threat QB in Oregon in consideration for the Heisman, until his knee was trashed in his senior year when he probably shouldn't have been playing. He landed in the NFL, but played just 4 games. But managed to get two rings, playing backup with the Steelers, then Ravens practice squad. Imagine that guy. Are you happy the way your career turned out, or not?!?
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nomad
Watched a couple of things, both featured Doug Williams.. and one had extensive comments by both Super Bowl quarterbacks and Williams, conversation about what it means to see black QBs in the SB as well as the expanding role of black quarterbacks in the NFL, what it means to all of them personally as well as their opinions about what it means overall.. just another reason I will watch the game.

Saw video of KC workout and it looks like his ankle sprained leg was replaced with a brand new one.. from the brief video, would not appear that the high ankle sprain is still an issue
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nomad

I see zero ways Favre wins the lawsuits again Sharpe and McAfee as he has too prove so much more with him being a public figure. On top of them just repeating what was reported. Only way he can win is if he proves they knew it was false AND said it with malicious intent.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Alpe d'Huez
Not sure I'll be able to post before the game, so here goes my prediction. My reasons, and what I think both teams need to do to win:

Kansas City by a score of about 31-20.

The Eagles are a better overall balanced team, but not by a large amount, and the factors of experience, being more battle tested, and the best player in the NFL will make a difference. The Eagles have never seen anyone like Mahomes. The Eagles do have a superb defense, but that to me will keep them from being beaten badly. The Chiefs have a better defense than given credit.

If we look at both teams bad games, if either of those "bad" versions show up, that of course changes the game.

For the Chiefs to win I think they have to not get pounded by the run, or let Hurts both move and throw all over the field. I also think they need to protect Mahomes against the Eagle front 4. This may take a RB in addition to the OL. But if it buys Mahomes a single second, he'll burn most any team. I also think the Eagles can be beat in the middle depth of passes (like, where Kelce roams). I think the Chiefs will need to stuff the line of scrimmage and spy Hurts enough to keep them from piling up big yards running, and challenge Hurts (and his shoulder) to beat them deep, and he won't be able to. I see KC able to do most of this, most drives. Not all, but enough.

For the Eagles to win they are going to do more. Too much I think. They have to get consistent pressure on Mahomes never rushing more than 5 guys, usually just 4. They have to cover better than they ever have. If you look at what QBs they've played, there is no one anywhere near Mahomes level. Not even close. They also really need to soak up the clock with long drives, running or passing. Since KC knows this, I think they will challenge this, and I don't see the Eagles overcoming it, as noted.

If KC falls behind, even by two scores in the 4th quarter, I think they can still win. Mahomes has won many games this way. If they are one score behind late in the 4th, I can see Mahomes stepping up and winning the game.

I can see a close game for a bit, but if the Eagles get behind by more than 8 in the second half, I don't see them winning. I know they aren't just a running team, but the Chiefs have been seriously tested by some superb QBs, all year. Hurts is good, he's great with the RPO, but not as good of a passer as Burrow, Allen, even Herbert.

Being a Raider fan I'll be somewhat cheering against the Chiefs for the Eagles, but most of all, I want to see a good game.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SHAD0W93
Not sure I'll be able to post before the game, so here goes my prediction. My reasons, and what I think both teams need to do to win:

Kansas City by a score of about 31-20.

The Eagles are a better overall balanced team, but not by a large amount, and the factors of experience, being more battle tested, and the best player in the NFL will make a difference. The Eagles have never seen anyone like Mahomes. The Eagles do have a superb defense, but that to me will keep them from being beaten badly. The Chiefs have a better defense than given credit.

If we look at both teams bad games, if either of those "bad" versions show up, that of course changes the game.

For the Chiefs to win I think they have to not get pounded by the run, or let Hurts both move and throw all over the field. I also think they need to protect Mahomes against the Eagle front 4. This may take a RB in addition to the OL. But if it buys Mahomes a single second, he'll burn most any team. I also think the Eagles can be beat in the middle depth of passes (like, where Kelce roams). I think the Chiefs will need to stuff the line of scrimmage and spy Hurts enough to keep them from piling up big yards running, and challenge Hurts (and his shoulder) to beat them deep, and he won't be able to. I see KC able to do most of this, most drives. Not all, but enough.

For the Eagles to win they are going to do more. Too much I think. They have to get consistent pressure on Mahomes never rushing more than 5 guys, usually just 4. They have to cover better than they ever have. If you look at what QBs they've played, there is no one anywhere near Mahomes level. Not even close. They also really need to soak up the clock with long drives, running or passing. Since KC knows this, I think they will challenge this, and I don't see the Eagles overcoming it, as noted.

If KC falls behind, even by two scores in the 4th quarter, I think they can still win. Mahomes has won many games this way. If they are one score behind late in the 4th, I can see Mahomes stepping up and winning the game.

I can see a close game for a bit, but if the Eagles get behind by more than 8 in the second half, I don't see them winning. I know they aren't just a running team, but the Chiefs have been seriously tested by some superb QBs, all year. Hurts is good, he's great with the RPO, but not as good of a passer as Burrow, Allen, even Herbert.

Being a Raider fan I'll be somewhat cheering against the Chiefs for the Eagles, but most of all, I want to see a good game.
Mahomes is the real Joe Cool...as in Montana. He can make something out of nothing and confound the best Def Coordinator. Kelce and crew just need to be who they are and fight through the inevitable mugging they'll get at scrimmage.
If they are tied in the 4th, as you've said; Mahomes will be in the mind of every defender and Philly coach.
I think KC's coach is going to throw some fun and crazy stuff in and the 4th qtr could be less of a crap shoot. I hope.
 
I thought Wash was sold on Heinicke? Things must be pretty bad there - Howell starts the last game of the season with a win over Dallas & he's instantly named the starter going into next season. Maybe Carr would like try his hand there? Lol
He bought Wentz back during the 49ers game and then he disappeared again. Seems like they have three QBs they aren't sold on........they were close to signing Jimmy G last off season before his shoulder op and then soured on the idea when the op decision was made.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Nomad
Mahomes is the real Joe Cool...as in Montana. He can make something out of nothing and confound the best Def Coordinator. Kelce and crew just need to be who they are and fight through the inevitable mugging they'll get at scrimmage.
If they are tied in the 4th, as you've said; Mahomes will be in the mind of every defender and Philly coach.
I think KC's coach is going to throw some fun and crazy stuff in and the 4th qtr could be less of a crap shoot. I hope.
Expect the Kansas running backs to get involved in the passing game as well with the Kansas WR's having injury issues. I'm sure Reid will throw the Eagles a few curveballs. Kelce has also been having some injury issues. Fair to say the Chiefs go into the game more banged up than the Eagles. Kansas will need some Mahomes wizardry but it was also telling that the Eagles QB wasn't throwing much against the 49ers either but they had the game under control at the half. Hurt's shoulder obviously isn't 100 % just like Mahomes ankle. Be interesting to see how much time Mahomes gets to throw.
 
  • Like
Reactions: jmdirt