New marathon domination, Kenya.

[More Strides than Rides]

Reads like only 32 positives out of 200 tests.

Still
...only...

 

[durianrider]

Intimating that Frank Shorter was a doper is ridiculous and pretty irresponsible.

To suggest he did it natty and beated dopers is pretty naive. You have runners that literally have to win to eat, doped to the gills and rich boy Shorter comes along on bread and water and can battle with em? LOL!

I guess you are right though, USA doesnt dope. Even Ronnie Coleman the police officer claims he is natty.

I gotta roll, my unicorn needs grooming.

 

[Cloxxki]

Still
...only...

Yeah, and half (50.00%) already got served with their positive result. The numbers are getting better and better with Kenyan anti-doping!

 

[DirtyWorks]

Reads like only 32 positives out of 200 tests.

Fair enough. Let's pencil that out.

The "offical" policy is to run no more than 2% of test population turning positive, sanctioning a few minor athletes.

That's like 15%!!! Ohhh noes!! Luckily, the minor athletes have vanished.

To expand the transgender suspicions, let's imagine 5% of a population is *actually* a legitimate kind of sexual variation. The odds that 5 are in elite athletics are fantastic. The odds that there are 5 on so much Test/steroids they are nearly men are much higher.

 

[blackcat]

Bernard Kohl's manager Stefan MAtschiner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Matschiner
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/matschiner-reveals-blood-doping-techniques
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2011-01/interview-matschiner-doping-grenzwertig

matschiner will definitely go down in the annals of preparatores and alchemy and magic realism and gabriel garcia marquez soil and bilharzia diet.

The Clinic 12 <strikethru< FOURTEEN come up on the google search up the top when you put in #meta Stefan+Matschiner+Kenyan .

I wonder how many times Rob Hayles googles himself for Rob+Hayles+Cav's+Motoman?

 

[del1962]

Bernard Kohl's manager Stefan MAtschiner

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Matschiner
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/matschiner-reveals-blood-doping-techniques
http://www.zeit.de/sport/2011-01/interview-matschiner-doping-grenzwertig

matschiner will definitely go down in the annals of preparatores and alchemy and magic realism and gabriel garcia marquez soil and bilharzia diet.

The Clinic 12 <strikethru< FOURTEEN come up on the google search up the top when you put in #meta Stefan+Matschiner+Kenyan .

I wonder how many times Rob Hayles googles himself for Rob+Hayles+Cav's+Motoman?

Probably less than you do

 

[Catwhoorg]

Jeptoo's hearing Thursday Jan 15th

Link

 

[neineinei]

Rita Jeptoo banned for two years effective from 30th October 2014

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...-year-ban-for-doping/articleshow/46068472.cms

 

[Dazed and Confused]

how about that, a doper who gets 2 years on the sideline rather than some pathetic random off season vacation.

 

[Le breton]

Dominique Chauvelier, interview

Question (Le T?l?gramme) : Pour en revenir au record du monde, les progr?s ne sont-ils pas dus au fait qu'aujourd'hui les athl?tes sont jeunes sur marathon, que l'entra?nement ou les chaussures sont meilleures ?
Dominique Chauvelier
Oui, mais tout ?a, ce sont des tout petits plus. Tu ne gagnes pas 30 secondes en changeant de chaussures. ?a se saurait. Avant, il y a eu l'EPO (2), puis il y a eu l'Aicar (3). Maintenant, le dopage se fait au niveau de la thyro?de pour booster le syst?me hormonal.

? Le T?l?gramme - Plus d?information sur http://www.letelegramme.fr/course-sur-route/exploit-ou-arnaque-01-10-2014-10366814.php

il y a eu l'EPO (2), puis il y a eu l'Aicar (3). Maintenant, le dopage se fait au niveau de la thyro?de pour booster le syst?me hormonal.

Basically he seems to think that they play with their thyroid to boost all hormonal systems.

Is that something you have heard of elsewhere?

If you want to know about Chauvelier, you can find him on wiki

 

[Catwhoorg]

Julia Mumbi Muraga winner of the Cologne marathon tested positive for EPO.

Loss of title and 2 year ban. Still within the window for an appeal

Link

 

[neineinei]

In competition EPO positive in marathon, that's clever. Is there so little testing that they are used to get away with anything?

 

[Catwhoorg]

I think the World Marathon Major organization is ****ed at becoming a bit of a farce recently and upping their game (and getting the word out to other marathons)

Sure it will still be mainly intelligence tests, but its going to cut down some of the more blatant examples.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I think the World Marathon Major organization is ****ed at becoming a bit of a farce recently and upping their game (and getting the word out to other marathons)

Sure it will still be mainly intelligence tests, but its going to cut down some of the more blatant examples.

Yes. Mid week, WMM announced it would be testing a pool of 100-250 athletes regularly OOC, in addition to regular ABP controls.

http://www.nation.co.ke/sports/athl...crackdown/-/1100/2626186/-/ugvmh/-/index.html

Athletics global governing body is to launch a doping crackdown on elite marathon runners after scandals involving top Kenyan and Russian stars.

Organisers of the top races in London, New York, Boston, Chicago, Tokyo and Berlin have agreed to finance extra testing of top runners by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF).

The finance from World Marathon Majors (WMM) means that the top 150 runners will face tougher testing after races and out of competition.

Failed tests by Russia's Liliya Shobukhova, who was the second-fastest women in history, and Kenya's Rita Jeptoo, three-time winner of the Boston marathon, sullied the name of one of the original Olympic disciplines.

(READ: Drug cheat Jeptoo gets two-year ban)

Jeptoo ? who in the past two years has achieved the Chicago/Boston double ? was one of 35 Kenyan athletes suspended over the past two years for taking banned drugs.

(READ: Bungei urges Jeptoo to name doping architects)

The WMM "offered their contribution to our programme," said Thomas Capdevielle, the IAAF's anti-doping manager, announcing the clampdown.

He said it "basically means systematic ABP (athletes biological passport) testing at the races on all the elite field, as we have been doing for the past two years, but also urine tests out of competition."

Drug investigators would have "more resources to follow a group of 100-250 elite marathon runners in the world," Capdevielle added.

"So we will have like a sub-group that we will very closely follow up."

He added that a new drug testing laboratory to be opened in Kenya within three months would be a "significant achievement."

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Yes. Mid week, WMM announced it would be testing a pool of 100-250 athletes regularly OOC, in addition to regular ABP controls.

http://www.nation.co.ke/sports/athl...crackdown/-/1100/2626186/-/ugvmh/-/index.html

Can't wait to see the results of that new lab.

They should dig a little deeper at New York / Boston / Chicago and other larger races including the 10k's road major events here in the States. Go into the age groupers around the 30's-55 regions.

Not that I'm bitter or anything but there is a certain local I would like to see get some testing.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Can't wait to see the results of that new lab.

They should dig a little deeper at New York / Boston / Chicago and other larger races including the 10k's road major events here in the States. Go into the age groupers around the 30's-55 regions.

Not that I'm bitter or anything but there is a certain local I would like to see get some testing.

FWIW, this year, the PRRO circuit (Peachtree 10k, Boilermaker 15k, Bloomsday 12k, Cherry Blossom 10M) is starting their own pool of OOC testing for those in the hunt. (Each event had been required to test; no support provided for previously banned athletes). Cherry Blossom just promised to reimburse any promoted finishers resulting from another's drug ban, which is the first race I've heard to do so.

But yes, I agree 100%. Care to name names?

 

[Catwhoorg]

http://www.usada.org/athletes/playclean/

Send a tip in with as much detail as you can manage.


Can't do any harm, and who know may actually lead to something

 

[Catwhoorg]

WMM is also changing the rules a little in terms of scoring.

More importantly they are changing the payout for winning, to a 5 year annuity. Get caught cheating after the fact (retro testing or bio passport) and they just stop paying.

Not ideal, but a whole lot easier than trying to recovers fund already paid out.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

FWIW, this year, the PRRO circuit (Peachtree 10k, Boilermaker 15k, Bloomsday 12k, Cherry Blossom 10M) is starting their own pool of OOC testing for those in the hunt. (Each event had been required to test; no support provided for previously banned athletes). Cherry Blossom just promised to reimburse any promoted finishers resulting from another's drug ban, which is the first race I've heard to do so.

But yes, I agree 100%. Care to name names?

That is good news. Maybe the Crescent City Classic should attach themselves to that bandwagon!

Naming names would out my target. Maybe by PM?

I'm just a 45 about to 46 year old guy trying to keep up.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Ahh, masters runner, NOLA area... you're talking about Kevin Castille. I've raced him and several others from the Crescent City 10k several times. I've seen KC at two of te PRRO events, and several USARC races, which offers some testing. The others I've raced against at those $1-3000-for-1st level races, with no testing...

There is a lot of skepticism, stemming from the obvious: resetting fast PRs at 40+, and being pretty jacked. You're not alone in wishing you had something concrete to share. FWIW, USADA lists one test in 2014, none prior.

 

[sniper]

So the latest doping story unearthed by Seppelt et al. concerns the place Iten, Kenya.
Facts:
1. Doping docs reside in Iten;
2. Doping including EPO is readily available in Iten;
3. WADA don't do any blood testing in Iten (and doubtful if they do any testing there at all);
4. Froome, Farah, and Radcliffe have all been frequent visitors of the place, in addition to a host of other top endurance athletes.

http://www.nation.co.ke/news/Foreign-athletes-pitch-camp-at-home-of-champions-/-/1056/3108842/-/t1vkcoz/-/index.html

Iten town in Elgeyo-Marakwet County is globally famous as the home to the world’s greatest distance runners.

They say Iten has the largest concentration, per square kilometre, of world and Olympic athletics champions, hence the reference to Elgeyo Marakwet County as the “Home of Champions.”

Indeed, multiple world champions and record holders Florence Kiplagat, Edna Kiplagat, Wilson Kipsang, Lornah Kiplagat along with current World Marathon Majors champion Mary Keitany all live five kilometres, or less, from one another in this athletics rich town.

Besides athletes, who were born and live in Iten, hundreds more world beaters have chosen the high altitude town as their preferred training location.

They include world and Olympic 800 metres champion David Rudisha, world and Olympic 5,000 and 10,000 metres champion Mo Farah of Great Britain, Dutch marathon champion Michel Butter, Great Britain’s women’s world marathon record holder Paula Radcliffe along with USA’s top woman marathoner Desire Davila.

Elgeyo-Marakwet’s flagship schools, St Patrick’s Iten and Sing’ore Girls have between them produced hundreds of world champions at both junior and senior level in the last 30 years.

...

Iten is also home to professional cycling teams with two-time Tour de France champion, Kenya-born Briton Chris Froome, a regular visitor here

How do you like them apples.

edit:
Also bringing this over from the "Brits don't dope" thread:

Iten, the place under investigation, has been a very popular training destination for British long distance runners in the last ca. 5 years.

Asker Jeukendrup's disciple Lornah Kiplagat (Kenyan running for Netherlands, now retired) founded a famous high altitude training camp in Iten.
Look who went training there in 2012:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/16850262

Is Asker Jeukendrup still attached to Sky in any capacity?

Also:

WADA told The Telegraph it doesn't conduct blood tests in popular training spots like Iten, Kenya, because of the cost and logistics of getting blood samples from remote locations to testing centers

http://www.runnersworld.com/newswire/no-blood-tests-for-doping-in-east-africa

 

[thehog]

This used to be Walsh's bread and butter. He'd see a connection like this and nut it out till it was cracked. Now he avoids everything and just goes with what Dave tells him.

Whilst it's fairly obvious all mentioned British athletes are doping at the altitude center, it will go know where as the media in simply not interested.

With Rio coming up its going to get buried.

 

[sniper]

This used to be Walsh's bread and butter. He'd see a connection like this and nut it out till it was cracked. Now he avoids everything and just goes with what Dave tells him.

Whilst it's fairly obvious all mentioned British athletes are doping at the altitude center, it will go know where as the media in simply not interested.

With Rio coming up its going to get buried.

Per Andrew James @badbrainAJ:
https://twitter.com/badbrainAJ/status/753365167937822720

Say it aint so.

British athletes have been funded to go to Iten since 2009. It is where Mo Farah laid the foundations for his track successes and, on the clay-coated surfaces, it is where Britain is aiming to shape its next breed of Olympic champions.
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/general/athletics/altitude-training-taking-the-high-road-to-british-glory-9907355.html

Nice bit of 'outsourcing' by British Athletics.

 

[The Hitch]

Just read about this.

WTF

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/two-hour-marathon-failed-nike/

 

[Red Rick]

Just read about this.

WTF

https://www.wired.com/2017/05/two-hour-marathon-failed-nike/

I thought almost everyone knew about that. Anyway, pretty consistent with decreased wind resistant etc I think.