Nibali wants ban on SRM meters

[LaFlorecita]

what a stupid idea...if you ban radios and powermeters then sky armada will never know when to slow down

really bad idea...better step up vincenzo and forget the talking

There is no stepping up against skyborg. something needs to happen otherwise we'll see 10+ years of sky domination.

 

[maxmartin]

have you ever raced a bike? not even at professional level just up a hill with a couple friends, have you?

being able to judge your effort is one of the most important qualities a cyclist can have, power meters eliminate that quality which is pathetic as it just turns cyclists into watt producing machines

yep and race radio, only allow emergency radio to inform riders about the road condition and accidents

 

[Panda Claws]

I'm inclined to agree with Nibali at the moment, but only due to the way Sky uses the power meters.

To me, the sky leaders are not champions. Their palmares might say otherwise in a few years, but that does not change the fact that right now Wiggins, Froome and Porte remind me more of these little radio controllable cars I got as a kid than of actual cyclists.

I'm hoping for a dramatic shutdown of SRM meters at Alphe d'Huez: Froome looking up with despair in his eyes, Contador's grin before he dances away, the Sky train falling apart.

Froome unleashes The 'Vroom!' as the crowd goes . It's unlike anything we ever seen before, but 5k to early

 

[serfla]

have you ever raced a bike? not even at professional level just up a hill with a couple friends, have you?

being able to judge your effort is one of the most important qualities a cyclist can have, power meters eliminate that quality which is pathetic as it just turns cyclists into watt producing machines

No, man. I don't know even to balance!

It's available to everybody. Who can benefit of it - good for him. Who can't - I'm sorry, you should try harder to understand modern technology.
Just like gears and aero equipment at the time they were introduced.

 

[gerundium]

good plan. definitely in favor. Just like on the track, you can run an SRM headunit as long as it's not visible to the rider.

If sky got all their knowledge from the track it shouldn't be a problem if SRM headunits weren't readable during the race right?

 

[jens_attacks]

see what Hayden Roulston says about Nibs

I say take the SRM off team sky tomorrow. My bet is they're still strong and they'll still win with froome!

https://mobile.twitter.com/HaydenRoulston/status/310820086657191937?p=v

amen brother

people still whining about sky because they're winning and because they brought cycling to a new level. that's good for everyone. yes maybe in the next two years they will win all the races but after three, the others will reach their level and budget too. and then we'll have some crazy racing

 

[Parrulo]

gears is completely different subject.

like arnout said this is like traction control in F1, yes the cars would be going faster with traction control but you wouldn't know who is the better drives because all you had to do is go full gas out of a corner and the computer would do the job of keeping the car in check.

since then it is now pretty easy to spot those that have the feeling to go all out of a corner at the limit of what is possible and those that can't measure it well and either spin out or are too slow and this makes a huge difference on a race.

 

[LaFlorecita]

No, man. I don't know even to balance!

It's available to everybody. Who can benefit of it - good for him. Who can't - I'm sorry, you should try harder to understand modern technology.
Just like gears and aero equipment at the time they were introduced.

So all cyclists should become robots to keep up with team sky. No emotion, no instinct. Just keep the watts steady.

 

[Parrulo]

amen brother

people still whining about sky because they're winning and because they brought cycling to a new level. that's good for everyone. yes maybe in the next two years they will win all the races but after three, the others will reach their level and budget too. and then we'll have some crazy racing

ya phill realized sky would be dominating in the future so he started his campaign against radios and power meters a couple years early

 

[Panda Claws]

Everyone using the SRM meters like Sky would mean that there would be almost no cyclists completely cracking etc...

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

see what Hayden Roulston says about Nibs

I say take the SRM off team sky tomorrow. My bet is they're still strong and they'll still win with froome!

https://mobile.twitter.com/HaydenRoulston/status/310820086657191937?p=v

WTF is Hayden Roulston? Is he a pro?

Real good argument pastronef. Hayden Roulston. I bet Nibali will delete his tweet by now. Hayden has spoken.

 

[Parrulo]

Everyone using the SRM meters like Sky would mean that there would be almost no cyclists completely cracking etc...

exactly, riders going into the red zone and completely cracking has become a rare sight while pre-power meters it could happen even to the very best rider

 

[LaFlorecita]

amen brother

people still whining about sky because they're winning and because they brought cycling to a new level. that's good for everyone. yes maybe in the next two years they will win all the races but after three, the others will reach their level and budget too. and then we'll have some crazy racing

Jens, I'm disappointed. It's not good for everyone. Riders like Vino, di Luca, Contador, Nibali, Cobo, Sagan... they won't exist anymore. All we'll see is a group of robots fighting to have the most steady pace. I thought you of all people wouldn't want the end of racing based on emotion. I guess I was wrong. Really disappointed.

 

[Red Rick]

Great idea, even though it would be better to sabotage sky's SRM meters so the given power will be always 20W too low, so that the dom's just blow themselfves very quickly trying to push the watts they think they need

 

[pastronef]

WTF is Hayden Roulston? Is he a pro?

Real good argument pastronef. Hayden Roulston. I bet Nibali will delete his tweet by now. Hayden has spoken.

I just posted a srm-nibali related tweet from a pro. this thread is about srm-nibali so i am free to post about it. cheers

 

[serfla]

gears is completely different subject.

like arnout said this is like traction control in F1, yes the cars would be going faster with traction control but you wouldn't know who is the better drives because all you had to do is go full gas out of a corner and the computer would do the job of keeping the car in check.

since then it is now pretty easy to spot those that have the feeling to go all out of a corner at the limit of what is possible and those that can't measure it well and either spin out or are too slow and this makes a huge difference on a race.

The analogy isn't fully spot on.
There's still a man who pushes the pedals, reads the data, watches opponents moves. Majority of work is still on a man, unlike in F1.
In this case technology serves a man to improve himself, rather than machine like in F!.

It's level playing field. Nothing unfair.
Maybe the Sky will be beaten when others apply the same methodology. And according to members here they should be.
I understand why fans are against this, but it's not objective.

 

[cocteau_ireland]

It could get to a point where the riders stay at home and post weekly numbers from their power metres. Afterall, there is no racing left when seven guys from the same team steamroll over the terrain. No need for tactics, feeling or the stuff of legends. Just bludgeon the opposition with predetermined power output figures.

 

[kanari]

Jens, I'm disappointed. It's not good for everyone. Riders like Vino, di Luca, Contador, Nibali, Cobo, Sagan... they won't exist anymore. All we'll see is a group of robots fighting to have the most steady pace. I thought you of all people wouldn't want the end of racing based on emotion. I guess I was wrong. Really disappointed.

Yes Sagan clearly hasn't got a chance in today's world of cycling. He should just retire really.

 

[Panda Claws]

Cycling would actually become like a mountain stage on PCM where attacking is useless best to keep riding at dot 84

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Interesting that there are people calling for a ban on SRM meters, and yet are demanding that Sky to make their power data public, over in another forum.

 

[jens_attacks]

Jens, I'm disappointed. It's not good for everyone. Riders like Vino, di Luca, Contador, Nibali, Cobo, Sagan... they won't exist anymore. All we'll see is a group of robots fighting to have the most steady pace. I thought you of all people wouldn't want the end of racing based on emotion. I guess I was wrong. Really disappointed.

we'll see in july

you should be more positive after today. it's only march...there is people reacting like sky just killed pro cycling... i say let's wait

 

[Dazed and Confused]

No, man. I don't know even to balance!

It's available to everybody. Who can benefit of it - good for him. Who can't - I'm sorry, you should try harder to understand modern technology.
Just like gears and aero equipment at the time they were introduced.

I find quite a few modern races dull and way too controlled. If throwing the SRM's in the dustbin can help make the races more interesting, the sport should look into it. Similarly with team size and team radios. This isn't about Nibali, its about trying to make the sport more interesting to watch.

 

[kanari]

The power meters have been around for years. Suddenly everyone sees the light and wants to ban them...

Maybe ditch the cycle computer totally. No speed, cadence, pulse. Why not...

 

[thehog]

I think we all know what Nibs meant by power meters.

You don't train with power meters without....

 

[pastronef]

even Michelle (Froome gf) admits the racing is boring

https://mobile.twitter.com/michellecound/status/310789800875671553?p=v