Nys guys finish first - Thibau, second of his name, Coronation Thread

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You made it conditional on Nys going to the Tour. I don't think his future opportunities in the Tour at all depend on Nys.

What. My post states that Pederson will probably leave Trek because his future opoortunities will be limited. The primary reason, Pederson is not doing the TDF is because of Milan. Then if Nys goes to to the TDF and does well, then it leads very little for pederson.
 
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While I'm on the hype train of road racing Nys, I have a hard time entering the Flèche Wallonne wagon.

Yes, the guys has already shown dominance on uphill sprint finishes, still, my brain doesn't manage to picture him next to the hyper specialists of the Mûr like Valverde or Alaphilippe.

For me the two key races will be Fleche and Brabantzje. Think LBL will be too hard and have doubts about Amstel Gold.
 
For me the two key races will be Fleche and Brabantzje. Think LBL will be too hard and have doubts about Amstel Gold.
Yes, for now I would agree, but assuming he still has room to improve, let's not forget not long ago Quinten Hermans got on the podium of LBL. And talent wise i put Nys a few levels above Hermans, who is otherwise somewhat of a comparable rider. It's why he desperately wants to ride a GT this year, to be able to take a swing at these longer and harder races in the future.
 
Nys is so great that i'm afraid to ask where do you see his ceiling? He can win bunch of stages at GTs, also FW, SS, maybe LBL if he improves at endurance. What kind of big races can he win outside of those?
 
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Nys is so great that i'm afraid to ask where do you see his ceiling? He can win bunch of stages at GTs, also FW, SS, maybe LBL if he improves at indurance. What kind of big races can he win outside of those?
He’s got the qualities to be top in all the classics, but that depends on his endurance like you said. We don’t know yet what he can do in hard 200km+ races. We’ll find out soon I guess.
 
Nys is so great that i'm afraid to ask where do you see his ceiling? He can win bunch of stages at GTs, also FW, SS, maybe LBL if he improves at endurance. What kind of big races can he win outside of those?
He has the potential to become an improved Alaphilippe in terms of 1 day races. Excluding TTs.

Once again proof that Thomas Van de Spiegel is a disgusting human being ruining the sport.
Hey man, he did very well at De Slimste Mens, which is after all why he got the job.
 
It's not for unknown reasons, Flanders Classics wanted to squeeze another of their races (Ronde van Limburg) into this period so they moved that one to the old Brabantse Pijl slot and this one back by two days.
Different participants between those two races though, so does it matter that there is Ronde van Limburg and Brabantse Pijl in the same week between PR and AGR? A case could be made that BP is too close to AGR, a bit like E3 is too close to GW.
 
Nys is so great that i'm afraid to ask where do you see his ceiling? He can win bunch of stages at GTs, also FW, SS, maybe LBL if he improves at endurance. What kind of big races can he win outside of those?
You would expect as his engine develops that he could do well in Strade Bianchi given his off road background and explosive ability.
 
He has the potential to become an improved Alaphilippe in terms of 1 day races. Excluding TTs.
He reminds me a lot of Alaphililippe as well. I think that's the best comparison for him. They even seem quite similar in terms of height and weight. Peak Alaphililippe was a better climber and time trialist, but if course we aren't seeing peak Nys yet, so he could easily improve in those areas. Especially as a time trialist, I think that he could do quite well in the future. With his cross background, he should have the physical capabilities to do well in ITT's, but he'll need to work on his position on the bike. In short, technical ITT's I could see him as a world class rider in the future. His sprint is probably a bit better than Alaphililippe's.

Races like the Ardennes, Strade Bianche, the Canadian races etc. look really good for him. Now, in all likelihood there's still some ways to go before he's on VDP and Pogacar level, but I even think he has a decent chance of winning Milan-Sanremo, especially when the race opens up already on Cipressa. But hey, now we're really speculating.

I'm excited to see how he goes in the Ardennes this year, and how good he really is. Does he have the engine yet? How good is his positioning?
 
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Bold statement here, but to me he's the absolute favorite for the Fleche.

- The race is only 205k
- Traditionally punchers can conserve energy in the bunch untill the final ascend of the Mur
- when in a good position, Nys hasn't lost an uphill sprint last 12 months.

If he starts the Mur in the first 10 positions nobody will beat him.

There is however a beast called Poggy who could decide not to wait untill the final climb in Huy. :)
 
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Bold statement here, but to me he's the absolute favorite for the Fleche.

- The race is only 205k
- Traditionally punchers can conserve energy in the bunch untill the final ascend of the Mure
- when in a good position, Nys hasn't lost an uphill sprint last 12 months.

If he starts the Mure in the first 10 positions nobody will beat him.

There is however a beast called Poggy who could decide not to wait untill the final climb in Huy. :)
I have been saying this for months. Nys is the biggest threat to Pogacar in FW. I don't think he is the hot favorite but if I had to choose one person to beat Pogacar, that guy is Nys.
 
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Bold statement here, but to me he's the absolute favorite for the Fleche.

- The race is only 205k
- Traditionally punchers can conserve energy in the bunch untill the final ascend of the Mure
- when in a good position, Nys hasn't lost an uphill sprint last 12 months.

If he starts the Mure in the first 10 positions nobody will beat him.

There is however a beast called Poggy who could decide not to wait untill the final climb in Huy. :)

Has he ever done a sprint up the Mure? Because usually it's also a finish that's not just about strength but also timing. He could easily go to early and fade. But I haven't seen enough of him to judge if he's so strong this should not be the issue.

Would be nice to have competition for Pogacar or an incentive for him to just make the race harder and more agressive than usual. There's the Cote de Cherave (1.3k - 7,6%) close before the Mure this time around. So you might be right, that the final will start before the Mure this time around.
 
Has he ever done a sprint up the Mure? Because usually it's also a finish that's not just about strength but also timing. He could easily go to early and fade. But I haven't seen enough of him to judge if he's so strong this should not be the issue.

Would be nice to have competition for Pogacar or an incentive for him to just make the race harder and more agressive than usual. There's the Cote de Cherave (1.3k - 7,6%) close before the Mure this time around. So you might be right, that the final will start before the Mure this time around.

Mur, ohne e. MurE is a Fehler ;)
 
Has he ever done a sprint up the Mure? Because usually it's also a finish that's not just about strength but also timing. He could easily go to early and fade. But I haven't seen enough of him to judge if he's so strong this should not be the issue.

Would be nice to have competition for Pogacar or an incentive for him to just make the race harder and more agressive than usual. There's the Cote de Cherave (1.3k - 7,6%) close before the Mure this time around. So you might be right, that the final will start before the Mure this time around.
It's his first Fleche, so I don't think he has done it in an actual race.
But I haven't seen such a killer since MVP. He hardly never makes the wrong choices.
 

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