Official 1 year ban

[mmedeast]

Wow, a whole year without that stupid finger pistol? What am I gonna do to entertain myself...

Guess I'll have to watch pro sports in the US, at least they don't use any PE's.

 

[The Hitch]

Congrats to Samuel Sanchez. From 4th to 3rd.

btw, Sanchez has never been implicated in anything yet, has he?

Nah. Samu is as white as the pope.

But the guy won the "Who can defend Contador the hardest" competition. His comments resemble the attitude of Jens attacks. Ignore the substance, the doping, and act as if the only thing in question is whether they get banned or not. The "just let them ride" approach.

For example he recently said "A Tour without Contador is like a Rolland Garos without nadal".

He also said he knows Contador is innocent

Then again for me, Samu is a doper by definition, because he is one of the great gt riders of his time, and i personaly dont believe people can go podiuming gts, and distancing Dennis Menchov in the mountains, on bread and water.

Oh, and if it means anything im possibly Samus number 1 cheerleader on these boards, but I believe its wrong to let emotions cloud your decisions.

 

[luckyboy]

Congrats to Samuel Sanchez. From 4th to 3rd.

btw, Sanchez has never been implicated in anything yet, has he?

Nah, but hanging with AC, Schleck, Menchov & co. over three weeks is probably enough. I'd be surprised if anyone above Roche or Lovkvist was clean.

 

[masking_agent]

personally I think he should have gotten 2 years, but it appears the UCI once again are showing their different rules for different riders. I just hope Andy Schleck will use the latest masking agent, so he doesn't turn up positive as well. 2011 is off to a great start already !!

 

[Not Riding Enough]

Like many others I don't get it.

Shouldn't it have been 2 years or none?

Do the RFEC think you can be a little bit pregnant?

 

[luckyboy]

personally I think he should have gotten 2 years, but it appears the UCI once again are showing their different rules for different riders. I just hope Andy Schleck will use the latest masking agent, so he doesn't turn up positive as well. 2011 is off to a great start already !!

There's a masking agent for plasticisers is there?

 

[sniper]

If the 1-year ban is maintained, it'll be interesting to see if other riders who got sanctioned harder (i.e. the full 2 years) for similar offenses will start complaining, or even start revealing details of AC's cleanliness.

 

[Siriuscat]

As a Berto fan I'm obviously a bit disappointed that he's been caught and burned but in the grand scheme of things I think the year is a reasonable compromise....IF he accepts it. If he argues he'll lose and get the two years, might still happen anyway.

To me there are enough questions in parts of this whole case that could have it thrown on technicalities, the UCI messing about andsitting on the thing, a lab that doesn't have to report the AAF because it's below the WADA reporting limits, etc etc etc.

Do I think he dopes, yes probably, him and all the rest. Only rider I think is doing it right is Tommy Voeckler, however, I been a fan of Berto for years now, that won't change so don't bother lambasting me for that. I hope someone REALLY steps up to the mark in july otherwise baby chops Schleck will win....oh whoopee!!

 

[Polish]

Alberto's ban is almost halfway over....

Geez, it seems like only yesterday when we first heard the announcement.
Oh wait, it was this morning. Time flies when you are having fun bang bang.

Do you think Alberto will throw the TdF Trophy off the roof of his pueblo?

 

[TERMINATOR]

WADA or UCI will probabaly appeal to C.A.S

Remove the word probabaly [sic] and you would be correct.

 

[Darryl Webster]

Given the totall garbage way the whole sorry saga has been handled a year seems about right.
I`ve little doupt Contador jucies like 90%+ ( all since Lemond?) of GT condenders. But this possitive had a whiff to it in so many ways my hunch has been a stich up from the off. Why, when, how and who I dunno. But stink it did. Dealing with doping is never gonna happen till ya go for the teams.
We all know cyclings a team sport with an individual winner but the price is its those individual that pays the price of what a team does. No one dopes without the DS knowing at Elite leval..no one.
Good look to Contador if he retires and gets out of the sorry cesspit but if he doesnt expect fireworks on his return. My gut feeling is the best of Contador may yet be to come.

 

[Benotti69]

IF Contador is banned will Astana be banned from TdF 2011 as in 2008?

 

[flicker]

So Fran is busy writing a letter to Astana cycling team. "Sorry guys Al can't share the 2010 TdF prize share with you. I am sure the money Vino renigged in his doping fine to the UCU+ the 4 1/2 months salary you chose not to pay Alberto in 2010 should cover your hard work as domestiques.
Also On my way to Tenifre I will spend a couple of days vacationing with Alberto and his girlfriend in Ibiza. We will stop by the Airport duty free and pick up Festina watches for the entire team as a thank you.
Team Sky Fans will act as Albertos bodyguard when we drop off the watches at the Astana bus before stage 16 of the TdF."
Muchas gracias por sus trabajan,
Fran Contador

 

[luckyboy]

If the 1-year ban is maintained, it'll be interesting to see if other riders who got sanctioned harder (i.e. the full 2 years) for similar offenses will start complaining, or even start revealing details of AC's cleanliness.

I suppose Li Fuyu will have a lot of information to give about him.

 

[roundabout]

Hmm, i could have sworn there were more posts in this thread a moment ago

 

[TERMINATOR]

As a Berto fan I'm obviously a bit disappointed that he's been caught and burned but in the grand scheme of things I think the year is a reasonable compromise....IF he accepts it. If he argues he'll lose and get the two years, might still happen anyway.

To me there are enough questions in parts of this whole case that could have it thrown on technicalities, the UCI messing about andsitting on the thing, a lab that doesn't have to report the AAF because it's below the WADA reporting limits, etc etc etc.

Do I think he dopes, yes probably, him and all the rest. Only rider I think is doing it right is Tommy Voeckler, however, I been a fan of Berto for years now, that won't change so don't bother lambasting me for that. I hope someone REALLY steps up to the mark in july otherwise baby chops Schleck will win....oh whoopee!!

It doesn't matter if Contador accepts it or not, he's getting 2 years. WADA and the UCI will appeal and get it increased to 2 years.

Do you people even follow the sport or past doping cases? Because if you did, you would know that WADA and the UCI will file a joint appeal. Guaranteed.

And given the pathetic logic used by the correct Spanish federation ("nobody can prove how it got into his system") he will definitely get 2 years. It's not up to WADA or the UCI to prove HOW it got into his body. It's like the Spanish federation thinks this is the first time an athlete said "Gee, I don't know how it got in my body."

The burden to prove that it was contaminated meat falls on Contador's legal team. They clearly failed to prove it was contaminated meat.

2 years will be given by CAS. No doubt about this whatsoever. The only people who don't seem to know this is an inevitable outcome are:

- Alberto Contador (dopers all think they will be exonerated even though WADA has a 99.999% conviction rate)
- Contador's entire legal team, who only cares about billable hours
- Bjarne Riis
- 90% of the people who post in here

 

[TERMINATOR]

personally I think he should have gotten 2 years, but it appears the UCI once again are showing their different rules for different riders. I just hope Andy Schleck will use the latest masking agent, so he doesn't turn up positive as well. 2011 is off to a great start already !!

The UCI had nothing to do with this decision. Please pay attention.

 

[TERMINATOR]

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[TERMINATOR]

Allegedly the RFEC did run this decision past the UCI, sort of. They asked the UCI for their opinion on this case, which is code for "will you make us look stupid if we ban him for one year and hope for the best?"

That's not what happened. The UCI and WADA will appeal this decision and get it jacked up to 2 years by CAS.

Contador's defense is an embarrassment to the sport...right up there with Tyler's vanishing twin and the cocaine-laced cookies made by so-and-so's grandmother or EPO for Frank's dog, or {fill in your favorite pro cyclist excuse}...

 

[TERMINATOR]

I hope that Contador contests it and subsequently the UCI are exposed as the corrupt and inept fools that they are.

If Contador appeals it, he will be exposed as the corrupt doper he is. Rest assured, the UCI and WADA will appeal, and Contador will get 2 years from CAS

Only Bjarne Riis and 90% of the posters in here think he's only getting 1 year.

 

[Maxiton]

Has anybody yet said what happens to his 2010 TdF win?

 

[Angliru]

He's Spanish, so yes he has. When he was born in Spain, he essentially pled guilty to using banned substances.

You do follow the sport, correct?

Aren't you going a bit far here with this blanket statement? Did some Spanish lothario steal your girlfriend or something? Painting such a broad picture of an entire country of professionals is quite over the top and to say the least offensive.

 

[TERMINATOR]

Like many others I don't get it.

Shouldn't it have been 2 years or none?

Do the RFEC think you can be a little bit pregnant?

Yes, you are correct. He only got 1 year because the RFEC is corrupt and comprised of low-information individuals, most of whom probably never even went to college. So they're only capable of blue-collar, bull fight logic that the trained legal arbitrators at CAS will surely laugh at right before they increase his ban to 2 years.

 

[Siriuscat]

Until the full defence he made becomes public we don't know for certain. Until WADA/UCI make a statement we don't know.

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[Publicus]

I've not been around here for the better part of the last 6 months, but I'm pretty sure the Terminator is just the latest incarnation of our resident troll.