Official 1 year ban

[hrotha]

That's not what happened. The UCI and WADA will appeal this decision and get it jacked up to 2 years by CAS.

Contador's defense is an embarrassment to the sport...right up there with Tyler's vanishing twin and the cocaine-laced cookies made by so-and-so's grandmother or EPO for Frank's dog, or {fill in your favorite pro cyclist excuse}...

Well, it's what the RFEC said, and I said "allegedly". Cry me a river.

 

[Berzin]

Its well known I have no time for AC, but i cant help having some sympathy. hes been stitched.

The 5 picogram or whatever it was of clenbuterol was in no way performance enhancing. Yes, he transfuses, yes, he probably micro doses epo, amongst other things, but banning him for clen is akin to jailing al capone for tax evasion.

I think this is as damning of the inability of the uci to actually catch cheats as it is of contador.

No doubt we now get to look forward to fat pat coming out tomorrow and telling us how much the UCI are doing to stop drug cheats.

Exactly. The nature of this whole business has lost all sense of reality. Banning Contador for such a minuscule amount of clenbutarol is ludicrous.

Besides, most of the anti-Contador contingent on this and many other forums are happy about this only because they are Pharmstrong fanboys.

For those of you who think this is going to lead to a "cleaner" sport, just wait a few months until the next scandal pops up.

 

[ergmonkey]

Then again for me, Samu is a doper by definition...

Well, I can tell you one thing Sammy Sanchez is definitely on: crazy pills.

Ever watch that guy descend in the rain? It's like an amalgamation of Paolo Savoldelli and Johnny Knoxville.

 

[offbyone]

Exactly. The nature of this whole business has lost all sense of reality. Banning Contador for such a minuscule amount of clenbutarol is ludicrous.

Besides, most of the anti-Contador contingent on this and many other forums are happy about this only because they are Pharmstrong fanboys.

For those of you who think this is going to lead to a "cleaner" sport, just wait a few months until the next scandal pops up.

Berzin, considering that you are the biggest contador fanboy/lance hater on this forum, hard to not see this post as a bit hypocritical.

If anything Contador got off easy, he should have gotten 2 years like everyone else. If he is considered guilty then he should have gotten the standard 2 year ban.

Well if Andy wins the tour this year it should make for a big rivalry match in 2012. Unless of course contador retires like he said he would.

 

[ergmonkey]

Also, if AC shows up at the Vuelta, I can tell you one guy whose season just got even more cataclysmically screwed: Carlos Sastre.

The Man: Okay, Carlos, this season you're going to skip the Tour.

CS: (Sigh)

The Man: Just to be fair, we're making Contador skip the Tour, too.

CS: Eh?

The Man: That's right, Carlos, you will have the honor of dueling with Contador on home soil. Come on, smile! Be proud!

 

[Mellow Velo]

Exactly. The nature of this whole business has lost all sense of reality. Banning Contador for such a minuscule amount of clenbutarol is ludicrous.

Besides, most of the anti-Contador contingent on this and many other forums are happy about this only because they are Pharmstrong fanboys.

For those of you who think this is going to lead to a "cleaner" sport, just wait a few months until the next scandal pops up.

Yup.
They are now waiting on Andy's positive, next year, to proclaim that Lance "The Pickle" Armstrong won his 8th "clean" Tour in 2009.
Gawd, as if this sport isn't already a big enough joke.

I always expected some form of compromise, given the amount and the fact that it could serve no purpose.
One year seems to be the going rate.

Oh and did any tell Di Luca that 2 years was cast in stone?

 

[halamala]

Contador confirms it: Alberto Contador confirmed on Wednesday that the Spanish cycling federation (RFEC) had proposed banning him for one year. [Reuters]

 

[Oldman]

Exactly. The nature of this whole business has lost all sense of reality. Banning Contador for such a minuscule amount of clenbutarol is ludicrous.

Besides, most of the anti-Contador contingent on this and many other forums are happy about this only because they are Pharmstrong fanboys.

For those of you who think this is going to lead to a "cleaner" sport, just wait a few months until the next scandal pops up.

It's a "scandal" because a notable rider got popped. Ignoring the surrounding circumstances that suggests he could have done much more than eat tainted meat is feigning tremendous naivete' on your part.
He should get the same ban period as other riders. Also, I didn't know he was a witch and wasn't hunting him.

 

[ergmonkey]

Apologies for going off-topic, but looks like there's a solid Contador-information-corps here: anybody know why AC gets to where an Etxe Ondo scarf at the training camp? I haven't known Riis to allow for personal deals like that, but I guess the Contador purchase was bound to be a special compensation package?

Then again, if AC gets two years, I suppose he can wear any damn thing he wants (including Movistar blue and green...)

 

[Darryl Webster]

Yes, you are correct. He only got 1 year because the RFEC is corrupt and comprised of low-information individuals, most of whom probably never even went to college. So they're only capable of blue-collar, bull fight logic that the trained legal arbitrators at CAS will surely laugh at right before they increase his ban to 2 years.

The only ignorence on display here is your own.
Such bigotry shows your clear ignorance of Spanish society. Shameful.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Lets see if he actually retires...I hope UCI and WADA take it to CAS. Personally I want 4 year bans like Bike pure proposes. So if riders test positive it will be a long time before they come back, so when they come back they are more likely to of learnt their lesson or the doper is more likely to retire because of te long period of time out of the sport.

--mod comment: I removed the part of the post that was fall-out of a removed thread diversion---

 

[Francois the Postman]

Thanks for helping me clean up the thread by giving me time to do it. My excuses that the offending post took a couple of hours before it was taken down.

 

[webvan]

I wonder if Bertie will take it like a man, honestly he can't hope for anything better at this point.

 

[auscyclefan94]

The fact is that his sentence is really a 7 month ban...Do people really think that this is fair in a perfect world, Contador' should be banned for two years and for drugs like EPO, testosterone should have a 4 year ban. That will really teach them. I was amazed how quick Vino & Ricco came back to cycling. It felt like it came by very quickly.

 

[Not Riding Enough]

OK people, sorry, only just got home. Sorry for the upheaval. TERMINATOR will not be posting here for a while, or longer, if he doesn't address his attitude here.

I am sooooo gonna have some food first, will clean up the thread after that to remove the xenophobic posts. If people could not comment on him or his post or this post after this message, that helps me with dealing with it.

For the record, I'm not happy he quoted my post to spout that stuff.

 

[hrotha]

The fact is that his sentence is really a 7 month ban...Do people really think that this is fair in a perfect world, Contador' should be banned for two years and for drugs like EPO, testosterone should have a 4 year ban. That will really teach them. I was amazed how quick Vino & Ricco came back to cycling. It felt like it came by very quickly.

IF (big if) the RFEC's ruling is sound, 1 year is fair and more than enough. Don't forget he'll be stripped of his TdF title and miss the race this year. But don't worry, chances are WADA will appeal.

 

[auscyclefan94]

IF (big if) the RFEC's ruling is sound, 1 year is fair and more than enough. Don't forget he'll be stripped of his TdF title and miss the race this year. But don't worry, chances are WADA will appeal.

My post was more about harsher punishments. Because there are two year bans for epo and drugs like that, the one year ban appears to be consistent. I just personally think that if sporting bodies are going to be serious about the fight against doping then EPO + should be for 4 yrs and Clen + for 2 years.

 

[offbyone]

My post was more about harsher punishments. Because there are two year bans for epo and drugs like that, the one year ban appears to be consistent. I just personally think that if sporting bodies are going to be serious about the fight against doping then EPO + should be for 4 yrs and Clen + for 2 years.

+1
Especially considering the race seasons of some of these top competitors where they only really target one or two races a year. In that sense, the one year ban seems inappropriate because they can still get at least one major race in. If they get banned for the giro they can ride the tour and/or the vuelta, if they get banned for the tour they can still ride the vuelta.

 

[hughmoore]

I agree with the longer bans, but you must still have a short ban for accidental/inadvertant doping.

For example the recent Australian athlete who tested positive, because the medication he took was incorrectly prepared/labelled by the pharmaceutical company.

Regards

Hugh


PS: Cadel Evans to win 2011 TDF. Go Cuddles.

 

[Lajeretta4Ever]

The inner chef in me wants to know what type of steak Bertie ate? Ribeye, flank, skirt, etc...? How was it prepared? Did he have a nice plate of creamed spinach with it?

 

[auscyclefan94]

I agree with the longer bans, but you must still have a short ban for accidental/inadvertant doping.

For example the recent Australian athlete who tested positive, because the medication he took was incorrectly prepared/labelled by the pharmaceutical company.

Regards

Hugh


PS: Cadel Evans to win 2011 TDF. Go Cuddles.

Amen to that! Except contador's story is very hard to believe. "Oh I had some steak from spain which was given to me and I was the only person to eat it"... Yeah, you expect us to believe that you moron. At his press conference on friday he will announce that he will become vegetarian so the Clenbuterol 'accident' won't happen again.

 

[hrotha]

My post was more about harsher punishments. Because there are two year bans for epo and drugs like that, the one year ban appears to be consistent. I just personally think that if sporting bodies are going to be serious about the fight against doping then EPO + should be for 4 yrs and Clen + for 2 years.

I agree about tougher bans, but considering the RFEC seems to think Contador took clen through no significant fault of his own, we could say they're already following your suggestions. You're not saying a rider should be banned for 2 years even if it was established that it had been contamination, are you? A normal clen ban is 2 years, and that's what Contador is probably going to get when WADA appeals, because his defense is almost certainly bogus.

 

[hughmoore]

Amen to that! Except contador's story is very hard to believe. "Oh I had some steak from spain which was given to me and I was the only person to eat it"... Yeah, you expect us to believe that you moron. At his press conference on friday he will announce that he will become vegetarian so the Clenbuterol 'accident' won't happen again.

I dont belive his story either, but must allow for contamination.

I would of thought he wouldnt be eating or drinking anything not specifically prepared by his team chef.


Hugh

 

[Winterfold]

1 year and stripped of 2010 TdF seems fair to me as they can't prove the transfusion that er may have taken place

Too bad Schlecket is now the winner like he is mr clean <facepalm>

 

[Publicus]

Amen to that! Except contador's story is very hard to believe. "Oh I had some steak from spain which was given to me and I was the only person to eat it"... Yeah, you expect us to believe that you moron. At his press conference on friday he will announce that he will become vegetarian so the Clenbuterol 'accident' won't happen again.

Just to clarify, that wasn't his story. He wasn't the only person to eat it. Others on the team ate it, but they were not tested.