Scott SoCal said:I wonder if Berty's money is where his mouth is....
Word has it Fuentes is holding onto it for him for the time being.
The Cycling News forum is looking to add some volunteer moderators with Red Rick's recent retirement. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to
In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.
Thanks!
Scott SoCal said:I wonder if Berty's money is where his mouth is....
Colm.Murphy said:Either shut up and cede the sentence or go the global thermonuclear route and join up with Floyd Landis to "Lance" the boil of doping that ruins the face of cycle racing.
Do it Alberto. Give us all a shred of hope.
We will cheer you if you expose Pepe, Bruyneel and their cohorts. Do it. Show us you have the courage of a champion, just as Landis did. Final nail in the coffin of truth.
python said:paradoxically, i am equally convinced that had i been in wada’s or contador’s shoes, i’d appeal the rfec's 1 year.
as i noted several times, the one year ban contradicts strict wada code as written. it’s a political decision and therefore it can not and should not stand.
cas should strike it down… and free the man or put him away for 2 years.
…and pass a recommendation that wada code needs further revisions - both as regards loosening it’s strict liability rules and introducing thresholds for the substances (like clenbuterol) that have legally mandated mrl (maximum residual level in europe - for example it’s .1 ug/kg for clen) and thus could be found in athletes body due to 'incredible acts' of normal food consumption..
python said:paradoxically, i am equally convinced that had i been in wada’s or contador’s shoes, i’d appeal the rfec's 1 year.
as i noted several times, the one year ban contradicts strict wada code as written. it’s a political decision and therefore it can not and should not stand.
cas should strike it down… and free the man or put him away for 2 years.
…and pass a recommendation that wada code needs further revisions - both as regards loosening it’s strict liability rules and introducing thresholds for the substances (like clenbuterol) that have legally mandated mrl (maximum residual level in europe - for example it’s .1 ug/kg for clen) and thus could be found in athletes body due to 'incredible acts' of normal food consumption..
craig1985 said:Well if Alberto was a vegan, he never would of had these problems at all.
auscyclefan94 said:I suggested he become Vegetarian.
And andy schleck is a true champion because...???guncha said:Good news! Contadoper should pay for attacking Schelck when the mechanical thing happened... Contadoper has never been a true winner of TDF 2010 and now TDF 2010 title is given back to a true champion!
auscyclefan94 said:Lets see if he actually retires...I hope UCI and WADA take it to CAS. Personally I want 4 year bans like Bike pure proposes. So if riders test positive it will be a long time before they come back, so when they come back they are more likely to of learnt their lesson or the doper is more likely to retire because of te long period of time out of the sport.
Roninho said:And andy schleck is a true champion because...???
on3m@n@rmy said:I sent my suggestion on 4-year or more bans to the UCI a while back. If anyone wishes to do the same and let your voice be heard to them, here's the link to their contacts webpage:
UCI CONTACTS
I just sent it to the admin email link there.
Not sure it'll do any good but I felt like I had to give it a shot.
python said:paradoxically, i am equally convinced that had i been in wada’s or contador’s shoes, i’d appeal the rfec's 1 year.
as i noted several times, the one year ban contradicts strict wada code as written. it’s a political decision and therefore it can not and should not stand.
cas should strike it down… and free the man or put him away for 2 years.
…and pass a recommendation that wada code needs further revisions - both as regards loosening it’s strict liability rules and introducing thresholds for the substances (like clenbuterol) that have legally mandated mrl (maximum residual level in europe - for example it’s .1 ug/kg for clen) and thus could be found in athletes body due to 'incredible acts' of normal food consumption..
El Pais said:el Comité de Competición de la española, formado por cuatro juristas, solicitó el 10 de diciembre a los especialistas de la AMA, de la UCI y de la Agencia Estatal Antidopaje (AEA) que analizaran la documentación del corredor y emitieran su parecer. Según fuentes de la federación española, la AEA envió a los 15 días su informe, la AMA respondió que no tenía nada que decir y la UCI prometió su informe para el 24 de enero a más tardar"Pero la semana pasada recibimos una comunicación de la UCI solicitando más días de plazo, pues no habían tenido tiempo de estudiar el dossier", señalan en la española. "Y nosotros decidimos tirar para adelante, pues no se podía dilatar más la solución".
What are you saying? People who suspected the RFEC of protecting Contador certainly didn't think that the slow trial was evidence of RFEC corruption, rather the other way around, i.e. the delays in this case only hurt the suspect.hfer07 said:The Spanish Competition Committee, formed by 4 members, requested to WADA & UCI on December 10th to analyze all documentation from the rider & provide advice. According to sources, AEA sent their report 15 days after, to which WADA expressed had nothing to say or add, whereas the UCI promised their report by January 24th the latest. "Last week we (RFEC) received a communique from UCI requesting more days to provide their report, since they apparently haven't had enough time to study the dossier." -We(RFEC) just decided to move forward, instead of delaying more for a final solution"
just for those who keep saying the RFEC is "trying hard" to protect Contador, when is clear who's behind the delays and the nonsense behind his case....
Lanark said:What are you saying? People who suspected the RFEC of protecting Contador certainly didn't think that the slow trial was evidence of RFEC corruption, rather the other way around, i.e. the delays in this case only hurt the suspect.
nevada said:Riis was pretty quick to can Schleck and O'Grady for a late night beer.
hfer07 said:excuse me-Did you read my post at all-& most of all-did you understand it?
ITS THE UCI TRYING TO DELAY/DERAIL/OBSTRUCT/LENGTHEN/EXTEND/PROLONG THE DAMN CASE!!!-GOT IT?
Colm.Murphy said:Will be appealed and 2 yrs applied.
Cannot justify mitigating circumstances when there is no reliable proof of unintentional consumption. Cannot justify a reduction in the standard 2 yr ban when athletes of similar results, and similar claims have failed to gain a reduction in sanction.
Contador needs to grit his teeth and accept that he is going to be sidelined for 2 yrs, as surely WADA will appeal. Nothing to be done. Either shut up and cede the sentence or go the global thermonuclear route and join up with Floyd Landis to "Lance" the boil of doping that ruins the face of cycle racing.
Do it Alberto. Give us all a shred of hope.
We will cheer you if you expose Pepe, Bruyneel and their cohorts. Do it. Show us you have the courage of a champion, just as Landis did. Final nail in the coffin of truth.
flicker said:Don't expect Berto to spread like butter. Landis is a one off, a renegade as you will. If you read the Lance books Landis was always seeking higher salarys , comparing notes with other riders on their salarys etc. Amy(Landis wife) wanted to party with Floyd and Kid Rock after the tour. Telling.
Like a sheep Contador went and rode for Vinos' team. Vino gave Contador zero respect after Albertos' pos.He could have sat out the season and ridden for a team that would give Contador the respect he deserves. Now look at the poor sod, Alberto's a deer in the headlights.