Official "another interesting piece I found on Alberto Contador" Thread

[biopass]

The title is really deceiving. I actually thought he got banned

As soon as he's has the yellow jersey, WADA will issue a press release saying they are accusing Contador for Blooddoping.

 

[D-Queued]

are we talking about 39 year old chris horner getting the best results of his life at an age 99% of cyclists are already retired?

chris horner is the imagine of clean cycling. . . .

p.s. contador was found innocent, like it or not. he has all the right in the world to ride. the uci appealed but just because the uci appealed it doesn't make him guilty. what if just because the uci appealed he wasn't able to ride all year and then was found innocent again?

Funny!

This gem should be in the beetroot juice thread, though.

But, so Chris is slow. He probably didn't go through puberty until he was in his 20s or something. I am sure he can provide a doctor's certificate on that if required. Maybe even a backdated certificate.

In cyclist years (1/dog years?), that makes him an extra, special youngster.

Dave.

 

[Square-pedaller]

Christian Prudhomme and his cronies including the UCI would have cried if Alberto had not been racing, they would have lost a fortune. It's all about the money.

I'm curious to know how ASO would lose a lot of money if Contador did not ride at this stage. I guess their income comes mainly from the payments that towns make to host the start or end of stages, and for television rights (although I've no idea how that works in terms of contracts between the purchasing media and ASO or France2 (who supply the video feed)). I would have thought that many media contracts were already in place by this stage. But I'm only guessing.

Edit: Oh, plus sponsorship money, but that's also presumably already fixed under contract.

 

[Square-pedaller]

Oh, plus sponsorship money, but that's also presumably already fixed under contract.

 

[Johnnyg]

http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/pushing-40-and-getting-faster?page=0,2

Chris Horners quote

"Well, first off, I don’t think he should have won the Tour de France for that year (2010). Because I believe if you did test positive for a performance-enhancing substance like clenbuterol, then you’re out of the race."

He is not the only pro with this view. Not they are anti AC, so much as they are frustrated with how one rider can be treated so differently than another, and the rules flip flop. All other riders that have been caught with Clenb. in their system were banned.......so why is AC being treated with kid gloves.

Money and politics.......that is why. They go hand and hand.

 

[gustienordic]

http://www.bicycling.com/tour-de-france/tour-features/pushing-40-and-getting-faster?page=0,2

Chris Horners quote

"Well, first off, I don’t think he should have won the Tour de France for that year (2010). Because I believe if you did test positive for a performance-enhancing substance like clenbuterol, then you’re out of the race."

He is not the only pro with this view. Not they are anti AC, so much as they are frustrated with how one rider can be treated so differently than another, and the rules flip flop. All other riders that have been caught with Clenb. in their system were banned.......so why is AC being treated with kid gloves.

Money and politics.......that is why. They go hand and hand.

But if AC has a hearing with CAS, what do you think his chances are? CAS is notorious for ruling against people. I don't think Contador has a chance against CAS. They are very strict.

 

[sniper]

But if AC has a hearing with CAS, what do you think his chances are? CAS is notorious for ruling against people. I don't think Contador has a chance against CAS. They are very strict.

PReudhomme and ASO must have properly informed themselves of AC's chances against CAS before they decided to let him ride.
So I'm rather assuming that his chances aren't all that bad.

 

[D-Queued]

PReudhomme and ASO must have properly informed themselves of AC's chances against CAS before they decided to let him ride.
So I'm rather assuming that his chances aren't all that bad.

There was better leverage with OP than there is in this case. Because his Fed'n let him off, there isn't much they can do until CAS issues its finding.

When will/how can WADA/IOC rule against a national federation and exclude the country from the Olympics? Pretty clear it is going to take that kind of action to clean up all the Albuterol in Spanish beef.

Dave.

 

[ManInFull]

But if AC has a hearing with CAS, what do you think his chances are? CAS is notorious for ruling against people. I don't think Contador has a chance against CAS. They are very strict.

I agree. Although his participation will likely make this year's tour very exciting, in the end he will give the TdF one, huge black eye because CAS is going to ban him. The best thing that could happen would be for AC to DNF or to not be in contention for a podium position.

 

[JRTinMA]

In the team presser Contador just said he was the most tested rider in the sport. Classic stuff.

EDIT: He also stated he is fiercely anti-doping and believes in zero tolerance. This was a response to a question about his apparent lack of a public stance on doping.

The other interesting thing was Riis opened by saying if you're unhappy Alberto is here don't blame them, blame the system.

 

[Siriuscat]

In the team presser Contador just said he was the most tested rider in the sport. Classic stuff.

From Armstrong this was his typical BS but in the last year I wouldn't want to bet against that being the truth about Alberto

 

[JRTinMA]

From Armstrong this was his typical BS but in the last year I wouldn't want to bet against that being the truth about Alberto

I wouldn't doubt he is the most tested either, seems fair as a rider who tested positive in the 2010 tour. The statement is BS because it implies he is clean because of the testing. Its the typical BS...

 

[roundabout]

I wouldn't doubt he is the most tested either, seems fair as a rider who tested positive in the 2010 tour. The statement is BS because it implies he is clean because of the testing. Its the typical BS...

In terms of in-competition testing I would have probably picked someone like Greipel for 2010, but then again I'm not a Contador fanboy.

As for other testing one can only guess.

 

[JRTinMA]

In terms of in-competition testing I would have probably picked someone like Greipel for 2010, but then again I'm not a Contador fanboy.

As for other testing one can only guess.

Hopefully they are testing 10s on the suspicion index more than the 5s. Otherwise the list is complete bull ****.

 

[Weapons of @ss Destruction]

In the team presser Contador just said he was the most tested rider in the sport. Classic stuff.

You must be confusing quotes and statements from different TdF winning riders, because what Contador was quoted as saying, according to the CN article, is;

"I’ve undergone a lot of (anti-doping) controls and during my career because I’ve won a lot."

Glad to be able to clear that up for you.

 

[JRTinMA]

You must be confusing quotes and statements from different TdF winning riders, because what Contador was quoted as saying, according to the CN article, is;

"I’ve undergone a lot of (anti-doping) controls and during my career because I’ve won a lot."

Glad to be able to clear that up for you.

He said that too. What's your point? Wait you don't have one...

 

[blackcat]

he has passed as many as Prance Gunderson, cos they both won and hate in equal measure

 

[bianchigirl]

Riis is actually correct - as the system stands, Contador is free to ride - due process and all that.

The scapegoating of one rider achieves nothing - that way we get more Pantanis and the Festinas (most recently the Lotto/BMC scandal) are conveniently swept under the carpet. Until the sport acknowledges once and for all that doping is not about bad apples but the whole f*cking barrel then there's no hope for it

So yes, blame the system, not the rider

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Riis is actually correct - as the system stands, Contador is free to ride - due process and all that.

The scapegoating of one rider achieves nothing - that way we get more Pantanis and the Festinas (most recently the Lotto/BMC scandal) are conveniently swept under the carpet. Until the sport acknowledges once and for all that doping is not about bad apples but the whole f*cking barrel then there's no hope for it

So yes, blame the system, not the rider

Exactly - it's the barrel that's rotten. You know, the thing that holds all apples together.

 

[Kender]

AC booed at team presentation

havn't seen this mentioned anywhere else sorry if it has been...

Alberto Contador booed at Tour launch

Albuterol Clentador might need to watch himself at the top of the mountains

 

[D-Queued]

havn't seen this mentioned anywhere else sorry if it has been...

Alberto Contador booed at Tour launch

Albuterol Clentador might need to watch himself at the top of the mountains

Which deserves a Hurrah?

Dave.

 

[Andynonomous]

"Luxembourg's Andy Shleck, runner-up to Contador in 2009 and last year, earned the loudest cheers,"

I agree that Contador should be booed, but to cheer Shleck, who is almost certainly a doper too, is more than a bit hypocritical.

 

[D-Queued]

"Luxembourg's Andy Shleck, runner-up to Contador in 2009 and last year, earned the loudest cheers,"

I agree that Contador should be booed, but to cheer Shleck, who is almost certainly a doper too, is more than a bit hypocritical.

This is the ABC's of cycling.

Anything But Contador (aka latest notorious doper).

Dave.

 

[hrotha]

"Luxembourg's Andy Shleck, runner-up to Contador in 2009 and last year, earned the loudest cheers,"

I agree that Contador should be booed, but to cheer Shleck, who is almost certainly a doper too, is more than a bit hypocritical.

Most fans aren't Clinic regulars and they don't even know about Fränk and Fuentes. It's not a matter of hypocrisy but of lack of information.

 

[this_is_edie]

This is the ABC's of cycling.

Anything But Contador (aka latest notorious doper).

Dave.

Crowd is just following the script written by the UCI and disseminated by most of the media - that is Contador is the bad guy while blond Schleck is the clean savior of cycling.

ri.di.cu.lous.