Official lance armstrong thread, part 2 (from september 2012)

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webvan said:
Honestly they were ignoring all the alarm bells, like those who believe in Tyler or in Floyd, not sure what it is with some people...well at least they've seen the light, until the Wiggin's time!

fixed free of charge ;)
 
Aug 18, 2012
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Merckx index said:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/17/news/companies/nike-lance-armstrong/index.html?iid=HP_LN&hpt=hp_t3

And that % is only going to go up.

Pound says more is coming:





I usually like Dan Wetzel, but his take on the morning’s events makes me want to barf. A restatement of the “done too much good for too many people”.


I think Pound deserves a lot of credit he did a great job as head of Wada, obviously he couldn't focus too much on cycling but he did a great job standing up to the bullies.
 
Merckx index said:
http://money.cnn.com/2012/10/17/news/companies/nike-lance-armstrong/index.html?iid=HP_LN&hpt=hp_t3

And that % is only going to go up.

Pound says more is coming:





I usually like Dan Wetzel, but his take on the morning’s events makes me want to barf. A restatement of the “done too much good for too many people”.

If Lance were not so aggressively oriented toward making money off of the Livestrong brand, then I might agree. The confusion between make-money-for-lance-livestrong and make-money-for-cancer-awareness-livestrong has always appeared both purposeful and unethical to me. Fools like Wetzel just don't look closely enough.
 
Sep 21, 2012
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All in a single day

Leaving Lance behind:
Nike, Chairmanship of Lance Armstrong Foundation, Anheuser-Busch/Michelob Ultra, FRS energy drinks, Trek Bicycles and Giro Helmets.

And the day's still not over yet.
 
Sep 30, 2009
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Armstrong - a life devoted to charity?

"My family and I have devoted our lives to the work of the foundation and that will not change. We plan to continue our service to the foundation and the cancer community. We will remain active advocates for cancer survivors and engaged supporters of the fight against cancer," Armstrong said.

How the hell did he find time to "win" 7 TdFs???

The BS continues.
 
Apr 19, 2009
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Whats the chance the Lance actually admits to doping. I think the odds are getting better.

It would definitely bring down the Hog and Ferarri so he might not.
 
Aug 27, 2012
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Tubeless said:
The Martha Stewart comparison is applicable. She was convicted of a crime and served prison time. Yet she has been able to build up her image and her business to near the old glory...

But the American public is amazingly naive or forgiving - or simply have a short memory. Lance is still a rock star at his charity events, is welcome to many non-sanctioned triathlon and cycling races - and has friends in high places.

I've held the view for a while that the right penalty for what Lance did ought to be financial.

Lance could not stop any of this by confessing - it would simply accelerate his financial losses. There's no upside for him. He can only hope many will forget and forgive due to passing of time. And that he can get back into his "charity business" and rake in money for himself while helping cancer survivors feel they have a friend in Lance. It's not clear it will work - but this is the path I am predicting he will take.

I agree with the Martha Stewart example (was thinking Jimmy Swaggart myself), and the need for financial penalties. I am not sure about not confessing. The American public loves the repentant sinner and I could see him play this out to his advantage.

If Lance manages over the next 2 weeks to further build his brand equity as the cancer Jesus he and Livestrong may retain much of their customer base. That's why this 15 year Livestrong celebration starting today is so critical, and that's what has determined the timing of his chairmanship and sponsor announcements (IMHO).

Expect a full steam ahead on the canonization of the messiah cancer jesus later today. Check the program. The inference of contribution to research is well and truly back on the agenda.

The rumored triathlon series I would also not yet dismiss. He needs something to keep him in the limelight, although anything in sport may be too tainted now.
 
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Tinman said:
If Lance manages over the next 2 weeks to further build his brand equity as the cancer Jesus he and Livestrong may retain much of their customer base. That's why this 15 year Livestrong celebration starting today is so critical, and that's what has determined the timing of his chairmanship and sponsor announcements (IMHO).

I don't think so. Long-term, the brand is toxic. It's built on a very flimsy foundation: it's all about Lance's story. Take away Lance and there's nothing left.

A few people will show up at the 15th anniversary, Ben Stiller, wow, that'll change Lance's destiny, and all the companies are making a big deal about how they still support Livestrong, but they will scale back marketing and sales support dramatically in coming months. The stuff won't sell 10% of what it used to. Livestrong revenues went down by about half IIRC in the 3 years following the first retirement. That was without doping scandal. Livestrong revenues will decrease dramatically after this short burst of faux support. In three years it'll be a dismal shadow of anything it once was.

Livestrong as a brand is indivisibly associated with Lance Armstrong the man. The brand is now as toxic as the man. It won't take more than a few months for that to be felt.