Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[thehog]

Film review of the Armstrong Lie

http://variety.com/2013/film/reviews/the-armstrong-lie-review-venice-1200596005/



Gibney is a great filmmaker

Actually the movie gets panned.

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/review/armstrong-lie-venice-review-619294

One of Gibney’s key questions -- why stage a comeback that would prove fatal and, in the long run, reveal and ruin everything? -- is never forcefully addressed and there’s no satisfactory, in-depth answer that explains why Armstrong chose to use the performance-enhancing drugs and lie about it until very recently, when federal investigations were ongoing. The filmmaker does hint at the possibility that the cyclist -- who continues to claim he was “clean” during the 2009 Tour (in which he placed third) and its disastrous 2010 follow-up (23rd place) -- is trying to influence his own narrative even in front of Oprah and Gibney’s cameras. It can't be a good sign if your subject seems to have the last word.

 

[Race Radio]

Actually the movie gets panned.

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/review/armstrong-lie-venice-review-619294

Opinions are like.....well you know, everyone has one

More from the Variety review

Technical assembly is outstanding. One of the film’s chief pleasures is the ample coverage it affords the act of cycling itself via the scenic and well-edited Tour de France footage, a reminder that this sport, however compromised, remains a remarkable human undertaking. In a personal touch that befits a documentary in which he became more personally invested than usual, Gibney handles the narration duties himself.

Sounds like a film fans of the sport would enjoy. No surprise, Alex has won the Oscar for best documentary and it has been said he "is becoming the most important documentarian of our time" Talented guy

 

[Oldman]

Opinions are like.....well you know, everyone has one

More from the Variety review



Sounds like a film fans of the sport would enjoy. No surprise, Alex has won the Oscar for best documentary and it has been said he "is becoming the most important documentarian of our time" Talented guy

Perhaps he could film a postscript interview with Armstrong. "How does it feel to see a clean Chris Horner leading the Vuelta?"
I do believe that vein in Lance's head would finally explode...

 

[thehog]

Opinions are like.....well you know, everyone has one

More from the Variety review



Sounds like a film fans of the sport would enjoy. No surprise, Alex has won the Oscar for best documentary and it has been said he "is becoming the most important documentarian of our time" Talented guy

Cinema is subjective. One mans gold is another mans rotten tomato.

Let the punters decide. They don't need to be told.

I'll go see the movie. I think it will be interesting. But I don't want Lance controlling the narrative.

 

[Race Radio]

Perhaps he could film a postscript interview with Armstrong. "How does it feel to see a clean Chris Horner leading the Vuelta?"
I do believe that vein in Lance's head would finally explode...

Maybe he will launch another comeback? Oh, wait. Nope. That is not possible anymore.

 

[StyrbjornSterki]

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/review/armstrong-lie-venice-review-619294
...One of Gibney’s key questions -- why stage a comeback that would prove fatal and, in the long run, reveal and ruin everything?...

This assumes that the occasion of Pharmstrong's "comeback," and not his snub of FLandis, was the proximate cause of his ruination.

 

[thehog]

This assumes that the occasion of Pharmstrong's "comeback," and not his snub of FLandis, was the proximate cause of his ruination.

Because the film began at the comeback when LA was full of beans it will be interesting to contrast to his demise.

But agree. Breaking the Bro code on Floyd was his biggest downfall.

Landis took a bullet for that guy over and over and over again.

But it just proves what Lance was. A piece of sh!t. Gutter mud.

The worst part is he probably still doesn't get it.

 

[Scott SoCal]

Because the film began at the comeback when LA was full of beans it will be interesting to contrast to his demise.

But agree. Breaking the Bro code on Floyd was his biggest downfall.

Landis took a bullet for that guy over and over and over again.

But it just proves what Lance was. A piece of sh!t. Gutter mud.

The worst part is he probably still doesn't get it.

Oh, he gets it.

He just still thinks he can manipulate the outcome.

 

[spalco]

Any info about a release date?

 

[MacRoadie]

Maybe he will launch another comeback? Oh, wait. Nope. That is not possible anymore.

I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.

 

[Bosco10]

I'm sorry for you. I’m sorry that you can’t dream big. I'm sorry you don't believe in miracles.

Yeah, that Lance quote is now a "sorry" classic. Can you believe it's already been a year since his world started collapsing? What an epic tale. Anyone know if he will doing a triathlon in the near future, or competing in anything for that matter?

 

[Race Radio]

More positive reviews for Gibney's movie

http://blog.screenweek.it/2013/09/v...e=swblog&utm_campaign=wordtwit&utm_medium=web

Gibney makes a good movie that looks him straight in the eyes, a man who has always lied in the eyes of others, and it manages to tell the system cycling with competence and without technicalities, revealing the relationships between colleagues and superiors as those of a peculiar Mafia. Even away from the chilling stories of war or economic Gibney knows the secret narrative to address the myths and mitolgie and take them apart, without giving in to cynicism. Hats off.

http://www.rfi.fr/europe/20130903-t...venise?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

a stunning documentary by Alex Gibney.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Yeah, that Lance quote is now a "sorry" classic. Can you believe it's already been a year since his world started collapsing? What an epic tale. Anyone know if he will doing a triathlon in the near future, or competing in anything for that matter?

He now 'plays' (big stretch) drums for a band at non-sanctioned events.

 

[Berzin]

Cinema is subjective. One mans gold is another mans rotten tomato.

Let the punters decide. They don't need to be told.

I'll go see the movie. I think it will be interesting. But I don't want Lance controlling the narrative.

Cinema is subjective to a point. A film maker cannot spend time spinning the narrative so it can be all things to all people. Gibney's track record of making quality documentaries makes me comfortable saying that at the very least it will be interesting and provocative.

That's pretty much anyone can ask for, whether you agree with the subject matter and how it's presented or not.

As for Lance controlling the narrative, he can say and do what he wants. The evidence is out there, his reaction to it is part of the public record, and he no longer matters in the cycling world, the cancer community or the world of commercial product endorsement.

He is going to get sued by a few wronged parties and will have to pay for his years of lying, bullying and intimidation the only way it will hurt him-his wallet.

Whatever Armstrong does or doesn't do or say going forward, that is good enough for me.

 

[SpeedWay]

Cinema is subjective. One mans gold is another mans rotten tomato.

Let the punters decide. They don't need to be told.

I'll go see the movie. I think it will be interesting. But I don't want Lance controlling the narrative.

Sony is hoping you'll see and spread the word just as Universal/Comcast hoped the muppets would with "We Steal Secrets. . .". I think you'll be pleasantly surprised that former Indy film maker turned corporate fair haired boy will not disappoint you and your type. The transparency will be as clear as the water that runs down your drain.

 

[Bosco10]

He now 'plays' (big stretch) drums for a band at non-sanctioned events.

I've searched for recent Armstrong news, and this is what I came up with:

Lance hanging out at the local dive in Lincoln Nebraska.
http://journalstar.com/news/local/l...cle_253d96ec-120a-11e3-9b14-0019bb2963f4.html

What an A-lister, eh.

 

[D-Queued]

I've searched for recent Armstrong news, and this is what I came up with:

Lance hanging out at the local dive in Lincoln Nebraska.
http://journalstar.com/news/local/l...cle_253d96ec-120a-11e3-9b14-0019bb2963f4.html

What an A-lister, eh.

Apparently he needed a drink and, true to form, didn't want to have to pay himself.

Dave.

 

[hektoren]

Whoa! Great news! Seems like it wasn't going to die quietly after all! http://news.yahoo.com/judge-orders-armstrong-answer-doping-questions-071417247--spt.html

Now also reported on ESPN: http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance...nce-armstrong-ordered-answer-doping-questions

 

[sittingbison]

Whoa! Great news! Seems like it wasn't going to die quietly after all!

Acceptance Insurance is trying to prove a yearslong conspiracy and cover-up by Armstrong to commit fraud. It wants to know when several of Armstrong's personal and business associates — including ex-wife Kristin Armstrong, team officials, the cyclist's lawyers and International Cycling Union President Pat McQuaid — first learned of his doping

even the rats on the Titanic met their fate

Lets hope "team officials" includes Hog and Weisel, maybe even Johnston

Yay! JV gets a gong:

Postal rider Jonathan Vaughters testified that she handed riders cortisone pills wrapped in foil.

And the best news:

The Acceptance lawsuit is just one of several pending against Armstrong.

Federal prosecutors have joined a whistle-blower lawsuit that seeks to recover more than $30 million in sponsorship money paid to Armstrong by the U.S. Postal Service. SCA Promotions, a Dallas-based insurance company, has sued for $12 million it paid him in performance bonuses. And in California, a federal judge is considering a class-action lawsuit against Armstrong by readers of his book "It's Not About the Bike" that claims fraud and false advertising.

Phil Liggett won't be flying in Lances private jet for much longer

 

[del1962]

Travis County District Judge

Travis County ... Lol

 

[Bosco10]

^^lol..good catch.

 

[hektoren]

Travis County ... Lol

...and I bet the unaballer has stopped listening to Randy TRAVIS too!!!

And he doesn't particularly like the song "Re-offender" by TRAVIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0v5TMgimk6U

His life just now must be a bad version of this guys' trip down TYGART river: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USkLya1C-Bk
Complete with a Livestrong-colored kayak, only without a paddle!!!!

 

[TheEnoculator]

I got a ticket to see the world premiere of "The Armstrong Lie" at the Toronto International Film Festival. Depends on how the filmmakers portray Cancer Boy, I'll be asking them questions at the Q&A afterwards. If you have any question you want me to relay to the filmmakers, let me know.

Will report back after the screening.

 

[Bosco10]

even the rats on the Titanic met their fate

Lets hope "team officials" includes Hog and Weisel, maybe even Johnston

Yay! JV gets a gong:


And the best news:


Phil Liggett won't be flying in Lances private jet for much longer

I'm thinking, if Lance doesn't want to testify, couldn't he just pay the 3 million and be done with it?

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Whoa! Great news! Seems like it wasn't going to die quietly after all! http://news.yahoo.com/judge-orders-armstrong-answer-doping-questions-071417247--spt.html

Now also reported on ESPN: http://espn.go.com/sports/endurance...nce-armstrong-ordered-answer-doping-questions

This is pretty big news. He is in a right fix.

I got a laugh from the opening paragraph:

AUSTIN, Texas -- A Texas judge is pushing Lance Armstrong closer to his first sworn testimony on details of his performance-enhancing drug use, ordering the cyclist to answer questions about who knew what and when about his doping, including possibly his ex-wife and his attorneys.

It of course will be his second time - perhaps we can call it 'Sworn Testimony 2.0".

I'm thinking, if Lance doesn't want to testify, couldn't he just pay the 3 million and be done with it?

But that would only lead him open to all the other lawsuits that are pending, which would extract a lot more than $3 million.

His only option appears to be trying to avoid trial and settle at a reduced fee. Thats would still be expensive.