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BroDeal said:Try hanging out with a higher class of people.
I don't think it is a matter of class, but a matter of most people being woefully uninformed about the entire Armstrong matter.
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BroDeal said:Try hanging out with a higher class of people.
silverrocket said:I don't think it is a matter of class, but a matter of most people being woefully uninformed about the entire Armstrong matter.
Bosco10 said:... And you get bet that Lance will fully exploit this aspect in his post confession PR war.
Bosco10 said:The battle cry has morphed from "passed 500 tests" into "everyone was doing it."
ChrisE said:Yeah, like that is what happened.
You should be glad they don't drug test CN forums.
Moose McKnuckles said:That is EXACTLY what happened. Many riders chose to leave the sport or not race in Europe rather than dope it up with the likes of Lance, Jan, Joseba, etc.
ChrisE said:Oh, that's right. It's a good thing they had options in life.
Briant_Gumble said:Some people are just too cool for school.
Though a lot of cyclists come from rough backgrounds.
ChrisE said:Doubtful if anybody is clueless about the professional sport, so they make their own choices. If somebody feels going down that path is not for them, then they have options to do other things.
Fatclimber said:If this statement is in fact accurate of what to expect as an athlete, there is no reason to spectate this warped, **** heap of a sport. And all the participants who willfully make that choice can eat ****.
ChrisE said:I assume you boycott movies, TV shows, wrestling, etc? Those are not real either.
Moose McKnuckles said:The OBVIOUS difference between those and pro sports is that the former do not pretend that they're real. Pro sports constantly protest about how "clean" and "honest" they are.
I'm really not sure why you constantly bring up easily refuted arguments. It puts you in the position of having the obvious explained to you.
Bosco10 said:The battle cry has morphed from "passed 500 tests" into "everyone was doing it."
BroDeal said:You will not find many of them mentioning how Armstrong had Verbruggen get rid of any rider who looked stronger than him. They will stick with the "level playing field" BS.
ChrisE said:Then it will be easy for you to list his major adversaries that got busted when he rode. Busted for X in the offseason doesn't count, and I give you poor little victim TH who I am sure would have beaten LA in 2004 (LOL) if not for the UCI and tugboat dying. Take your time listing the others, then you can trot back over to the politics thread and spew your gun-nut BS.
DanielsDad said:I think he cheated and is the greatest TDF rider ever.
ChrisE said:It's entertainment, period, and people have choices about what they wish to do with their life including whether or not to pursue pro sports. Besides, you have enough anger within you to take care of the outrage quota of a medium sized city, and then some. The rest of us can relax and watch the game while you fight the good fight.
ChrisE said:I'm not sure if you are serious, but...
So, when something is not real just don't watch it?
I assume you boycott movies, TV shows, wrestling, etc? Those are not real either. Do you think what is going on every Sunday in the NFL is real, ie those athletes got that big and fast on hard work only? I don't, yet I watch it like I watch cycling, along with millions of other people. It is entertainment, and my personal morals about the ability of somebody to participate without doping is outweighed.
Personally, I think most pro sports are dirty and there is concerted effort to conceal that due to the money being made, in all sports. Athletes at this level know what is up, so I check my outrage at the door and grab another beer. YMMV.
MacRoadie said:Anyone else worried about Daniel?
MacRoadie said:Anyone else worried about Daniel?
Hugh Januss said:Daniel is 16, one of the stars of his High School MTB team, and he is on a costly and well planned out "supplement" program. Maybe DanielsDad or even DanielsUncle is an MD.