Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[mewmewmew13]

wow the party has been going on all afternoon and I just got here…looks like a replay

are there any new revelations that I need to know?

except that Armstong has a thinly-veiled mission going on ?

 

[Scott SoCal]

wow the party has been going on all afternoon and I just got here…looks like a replay

are there any new revelations that I need to know?

except that Armstong has a thinly-veiled mission going on ?

Naw, that's pretty much it. George the stooge is carrying LA's bottle (again).

 

[ChewbaccaD]

GH made the same statements in the Armstrong Lie movie which both BA and FA appeared in.

Because no one saw the film no one noticed.

This is not a new statement.

And that has to do with motive for the Detroit Free Press article how?

Hincapie made similar statements in his affidavit...and no one noticed...

These aren't even new statements related to the movie...it is the timing, editing, and place of publication.

But you guys keep going back to the USPS team car for water...Lance is thirsty..

 

[the sceptic]

wow the party has been going on all afternoon and I just got here…looks like a replay

are there any new revelations that I need to know?

except that Armstong has a thinly-veiled mission going on ?

What mission is that?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Do people still live in Detroit? I thought it was an abandoned ghost town overgrown with jungle

Everything Lance does or says is done with malicious, self serving purpose. It's his inherant sociopathic nature. As chewie say 's everyone has an agenda, it's clear what lances I 's and it looks like George is duped once again into toeing lances line, perhaps influenced by his own agenda.... Book coming out? New clobber range? Who knows, and who care 's...the guy is a lying POS.

...he's changed...didn't you see the Oprah interview, or the surprise, non-orchestrated photo opps with Emma and Bassons? It's awesome when the press spontaneously show up to take pictures...serendipitous even.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

wow the party has been going on all afternoon and I just got here…looks like a replay

are there any new revelations that I need to know?

except that Armstong has a thinly-veiled mission going on ?

Yea, Netserk is a POS for his statement to you yesterday...wait, you already knew that.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Is it even clear from the article whether Hincapie talked to the reporter anew, or did someone just lift his statements from the documentary and use them in a newspaper close to the Andreus' home (a paper that presumably has reported on the Andreus in the past, had interviews/commentary from them)?

Is this a newspaper trying to stir up a story about local folks, or is this something else??

Lifted from the article:

He told the Free Press last week that seeing Andreu with the performance-enhancing drug erythropoietin, or EPO, in his refrigerator for the first time had a big impact on him.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Naw, that's pretty much it. George the stooge is carrying LA's bottle (again).

He's got a bevy of domistiques hanging on to the team car today just waiting for more bottles.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Lifted from the article:

Seems clear to me, but maybe we need 15 fu*king pages of analysis and parsing of words to be sure...

 

[ChewbaccaD]

What mission is that?

It's a mission from god.

 

[mewmewmew13]

What mission is that?

omg do we have to go back to school all over again?

I honestly don't know how many pages back we've hashed this out…maybe you can make yourself useful and find out

 

[Dr. Maserati]

Seems clear to me, but maybe we need 15 fu*king pages of analysis and parsing of words to be sure...

Apologies - I should have let RR say it said it in the piece, then others would have asked him to link to it and explain exactly which week was 'last week'.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Yea, Netserk is a POS for his statement to you yesterday...wait, you already knew that.

lol
I'm also thin skinned

I try not to think about it

 

[MarkvW]

The last few posts here have been excellent and informative - for what its worth, I see both sides and actually was more in taking them at face value until your last couple of posts.

Looking at it from GHs POV - he see's Frankie as just as complicit, yet GH believes FA is getting off light. GH looks at is they are all dopers and all the same - even if what they were willing to abuse is different.

But what is interesting, is that if it was a candid response from Hincapie why is it he does not mention anything about transfusions? That is a far scarier scenario - even Tyler refused in his book to refer to them as blood bags - because one would be hooked up for an extended period watching your (well, hopefully its yours) blood empty in to your arm.
The fact it is in a Deitroit publication and that they can get quotes from both LA & GH, IMO confirms its true intent

As to your very last point, I disagree. Betsy is the local news connection (they live in SE Michigan). And the Free Press is a good paper.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

As to your very last point, I disagree. Betsy is the local news connection (they live in SE Michigan). And the Free Press is a good paper.

And I expect you to disagree, Mark.

But can you explain how such a fine publication managed to get both GH and LA for on the record statements and why now after much of this 'news' is no longer 'well, new?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

And I expect you to disagree, Mark.

But can you explain how such a fine publication managed to get both GH and LA for on the record statements and why now after much of this 'news' is no longer 'well, new?

Especially considering that evidently, all the statements were available from everywhere, and everybody knew about them anyway...

 

[mewmewmew13]

Haven't we agreed yet that the issue here is timing?

or I'll come back later..

 

[thehog]

And that has to do with motive for the Detroit Free Press article how?

Hincapie made similar statements in his affidavit...and no one noticed...

These aren't even new statements related to the movie...it is the timing, editing, and place of publication.

But you guys keep going back to the USPS team car for water...Lance is thirsty..

I represent neither side. In fact there are no sides in this. We don't need to draw divisions. For the most part I agree with RR and his assertions. I just corrected a point per transfusions and EPO.

As I previously mentioned. We now have a unique situation whereby all the players can talk reasonably freely.

Question is; what's at stake here? What's to gain and what's to lose?

Why shouldn't Hincapie speak? We saw the same with regards to Bruyneel. There appears theis willful intent to stop some from speaking.

You can't win so why go to arbitration was the catcall if I so remember.

Why is that?

I prefer to hear it all then make up my own mind on what I believe and don't believe.

 

[MarkvW]

And I expect you to disagree, Mark.

But can you explain how such a fine publication managed to get both GH and LA for on the record statements and why now after much of this 'news' is no longer 'well, new?

I expect that the reporter used a telephone to contact GH and LA. Reporters love conflict like junkies love their dope. Betsy is a rich source of provocative quotes. I choose not to see a conspiracy on the part of a respected paper like the Free Press.

 

[D-Queued]

Do you honestly think it doesn't refer to EPO???



"that" refers to EPO. You really have to be extremely daft to think otherwise.

Notwithstanding that Chewy chewses not to agree with this interpretation of 'that' and 'too', it does appear self-evident as you point out.

Chewing on this a bit further, while not chewsing favorites as I typically do chews Chewie, given George's renown for injesting and injecting, and given that he apparently cannot chews on his own, it would be interesting to know who influenced him when he was chewsing what else to put on his pharmaceutical shopping list. Can he give us an item-by-item accounting?

Just saying...

Of course, this ain't the GH thread. But I am curious, George.

(and apologies for chewsing to take the liberty with Chewy...)

Dave.

 

[Dr. Maserati]

I expect that the reporter used a telephone to contact GH and LA. Reporters love conflict like junkies love their dope. Betsy is a rich source of provocative quotes. I choose not to see a conspiracy on the part of a respected paper like the Free Press.

Thanks Mark - that makes sense, I didn't realize things were so screwed up in Detroit that they only got the telephone back working 'last week'.

Maybe people up there still think Lance won the Tours?

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Notwithstanding that Chewy chewses not to agree with this interpretation of 'that' and 'too', it does appear self-evident as you point out.

Agreed

Chewing on this a bit further, while not chewsing favorites as I typically do chews Chewie, given George's renown for injesting and injecting, and given that he apparently cannot chews on his own, it would be interesting to know who influenced him when he was chewsing what else to put on his pharmaceutical shopping list. Can he give us an item-by-item accounting?

Just saying...

Of course, this ain't the GH thread. But I am curious, George.

George Hincapie has ironic initials, innit?

 

[Scott SoCal]

I represent neither side. In fact there are no sides in this. We don't need to draw divisions. For the most part I agree with RR and his assertions. I just corrected a point per transfusions and EPO.

As I previously mentioned. We now have a unique situation whereby all the players can talk reasonably freely.

Question is; what's at stake here? What's to gain and what's to lose?

Why shouldn't Hincapie speak? We saw the same with regards to Bruyneel. There appears theis willful intent to stop some from speaking.

You can't win so why go to arbitration was the catcall if I so remember.

Why is that?

I prefer to hear it all then make up my own mind on what I believe and don't believe.

Wrong question.

Why should Hincapie be speaking? That's a better question because it is clearly not in his best interests.

I prefer to hear it all then make up my own mind on what I believe and don't believe

Me too, but you have to wonder what's in it for GH.

 

[BroDeal]

Why should Hincapie be speaking? That's a better question because it is clearly not in his best interests.

Me too, but you have to wonder what's in it for GH.

My sources tell me he did for a Klondike bar.

 

[veganrob]

Do people still live in Detroit? I thought it was an abandoned ghost town overgrown with jungle

Everything Lance does or says is done with malicious, self serving purpose. It's his inherant sociopathic nature. As chewie say 's everyone has an agenda, it's clear what lances I 's and it looks like George is duped once again into toeing lances line, perhaps influenced by his own agenda.... Book coming out? New clobber range? Who knows, and who care 's...the guy is a lying POS.

Yes some of us do live in the D. And like it.