Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[DirtyWorks]

With respect to the CIRC Report, however, it would seem that Armstrong could still add some not-yet-disclosed insight into the unique role and unique partnership that he obtained with the UCI to further his ongoing deception.

Thus, if it were only about his ban, wouldn't it make sense for him to sing like a canary?

If the point of the report were to actually address issues? Yes. But, as others have summarized, the entire report seems to exist to put some pressure on Verbruggen to abdicate.

In particular, the CIRC authors retell the "anti-doping is now independent" lie and expect it to stick. It also is strategically misinforms on anti-doping authority role WADA standard elsewhere.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Thought #2 on CIRC Report & Armstrong (Thought #1 above)

CIRC did deny a reduced ban.

One theory that has often been floated is that Lance may not have new or fresh insight beyond what is already included in the comprehensive USADA reasoned decision.

With respect to the CIRC Report, however, it would seem that Armstrong could still add some not-yet-disclosed insight into the unique role and unique partnership that he obtained with the UCI to further his ongoing deception.

Thus, if it were only about his ban, wouldn't it make sense for him to sing like a canary?

Knowing that he, again, wrote the script on the questions he would be posed by CIRC, and bearing in mind that there must be some material insight he could provide, can there be any other conclusion than that he remains steadfastly focused on deceit and manipulation?

Dave.

If only everyone could see this.
just more BS and spin

 

[DirtyWorks]

He's Baaaaack

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...d-his-case-for-reduction-of-lifetime-ban.html

Reposted.

Cookson gets Verbruggen gone if the CIRC doesn't do it and ideally Wonderboy brings the money back to the sport. This is why I'm not in politics. I could not come up with such a brilliant plan.

Literally no one at the UCI is considering what this looks like. Unrepentant doper and sports fraud welcomed back to the sport he poisoned.

Wonderboy must have made some people at the UCI a ton of money.

 

[D-Queued]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/ot...s-case-for-reduction-of-lifetime-ban[/b].html

Reposted.

Cookson gets Verbruggen gone if the CIRC doesn't do it and ideally Wonderboy brings the money back to the sport. This is why I'm not in politics. I could not come up with such a brilliant plan.

Literally no one at the UCI is considering what this looks like. Unrepentant doper and sports fraud welcomed back to the sport he poisoned.

Wonderboy must have made some people at the UCI a ton of money.

Gaack!

When is enough, enough??

But, you do have to like this quote from Cookson:

"I think it's fair to say that Lance was given exceptional treatment but then again he was an exceptional offender. So I don't have a huge amount of sympathy for Lance Armstrong in that respect."

IOW, he again tried to undermine the system, but to no avail. He wins the prize and keeps doing a great job defending his title.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

Gaack!

When is enough, enough??

But, you do have to like this quote from Cookson:



IOW, he again tried to undermine the system, but to no avail. He wins the prize and keeps doing a great job defending his title.

Dave.

Cookson has been proven to know when to say the right thing and when to do ignore his own quotes.

I would not be surprised if Cookson gets Lance a reduction of his ban.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Cookson has been proven to know when to say the right thing and when to do ignore his own quotes.

I would not be surprised if Cookson gets Lance a reduction of his ban.

I can't even imagine how that works. The guy is a worldwide example of sports fraud, yet the UCI has been playing the long game to get the ban reduced.

Is this where Makarov's super-majority comes in handy?

Well, it's an IOC sport, so actually this is about average.

 

[D-Queued]

Cookson has been proven to know when to say the right thing and when to do ignore his own quotes.

I would not be surprised if Cookson gets Lance a reduction of his ban.

Alternately, an alternate and more pleasing possibility is that the player is finally being played.

Keep offering a reduced ban. See if Lance ever provides anything of interest.

Dave.

 

[Benotti69]

I can't even imagine how that works. The guy is a worldwide example of sports fraud, yet the UCI has been playing the long game to get the ban reduced.

Is this where Makarov's super-majority comes in handy?

Well, it's an IOC sport, so actually this is about average.

We must never forget that it is an IOC sport and that the 'daughter of the mother of the imbecile is always pregnant'.......

Alternately, an alternate and more pleasing possibility is that the player is finally being played.

Keep offering a reduced ban. See if Lance ever provides anything of interest.

Dave.

Double jeopardy, as Armstrong could blow up in everyone's faces if he gets played!!!

 

[DirtyWorks]

Double jeopardy, as Armstrong could blow up in everyone's faces if he gets played!!!

I would argue everyone who matters will know how the script reads.

-Hein did bad stuff.
-Pat did bad stuff.
-I'm a champion.
-Hein did bad stuff.
-Hein did bad stuff.
-Doping was everywhere.
-I'm a champion.
-USADA are #$%%&
-I'm a champion.
-Did you forget I'm a champion?
-Oh, and Pat and Hein did bad stuff. By themselves.
-I'm a champion.

Cookson then recommends a reduction in the ban.

As Bennotti pointed out, Cookson is already playing both sides, so you have to wonder if he's got a negative opinion and some other force in the federation desperately wants Wonderboy back. (Like Hein, or Thom, or Mike Plant for instance)

 

[skippythepinhead]

Couldn't Cookson have saved UCI some $ and just offered Heinous a million and a half to resign?

 

[mewmewmew13]

my bet is it's a done deal ..no meetups..Lance has nothing left to offer.

 

[hektoren]

Reduced ban for Lance? No way!
A rider who might very well have suffered from self-inflicted cancer and used dope and his illness to sell a lie to cancer-ridden children has done enough to tarnish the reputation of cycling to earn him his lifetime ban.
I treat a lot of patients with cancer, and in my spare time I do voluntary unpaid work for a local bike club (we'll stage the 2017 Worlds), and if Lance was allowed to race again anywhere, anytime, I'd quit having anything to do with organized cycling for good. If he shows his ugly mug anywhere near me I'd be all too happy to feed him a knuckle-sandwich and take the rap. I feel nothing but utter contempt and hate for him, and nobody with an interest in the best of all sports should welcome him back to a race. Ever.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

But what do you really think?

 

[Bluenote]

Reduced ban for Lance? No way!
A rider who might very well have suffered from self-inflicted cancer and used dope and his illness to sell a lie to cancer-ridden children has done enough to tarnish the reputation of cycling to earn him his lifetime ban.
I treat a lot of patients with cancer, and in my spare time I do voluntary unpaid work for a local bike club (we'll stage the 2017 Worlds), and if Lance was allowed to race again anywhere, anytime, I'd quit having anything to do with organized cycling for good. If he shows his ugly mug anywhere near me I'd be all too happy to feed him a knuckle-sandwich and take the rap. I feel nothing but utter contempt and hate for him, and nobody with an interest in the best of all sports should welcome him back to a race. Ever.

Thank you for treating cancer patients and volunteering. People like you should get the press and kudos, not guys like Armstrong.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Reduced ban for Lance? No way!
A rider who might very well have suffered from self-inflicted cancer and used dope and his illness to sell a lie to cancer-ridden children has done enough to tarnish the reputation of cycling to earn him his lifetime ban.
I treat a lot of patients with cancer, and in my spare time I do voluntary unpaid work for a local bike club (we'll stage the 2017 Worlds), and if Lance was allowed to race again anywhere, anytime, I'd quit having anything to do with organized cycling for good.

That's entirely possible considering his #1 fan still runs USA Cycling.

Wonderboy could not handle a peaceful, truthful statements to his face about his impact on the sport. He doesn't know what to do with truthful words and actions. You would be public enemy #2 behind Betsy.

He very much understands, and can respond in kind to knuckle sandwiches. That only feeds the legend-in-his-own-mind.

 

[staubsauger]

Why does Armstrong still talk, anyway? Why is he allowed to do so? Can't this clown just disappear finally?

Pantani can't share his story anymore. He's dead. Hunted down. He's the only one who paid the biggest check possible for the doping. #neverforgivethat

 

[DirtyWorks]

Why does he still talk, anyway? Why is he allowed to do so? Can't this clown just disappear finally?

Because he's desperate for the spotlight. Always. Gotta be number one in the room.

He's going to be old and gray frequenting the Yellow Rose and still clamoring for the spotlight. Nothing is changing.

 

[blackcat]

I'd prefer Kik and her backpack of sadness

 

[blackcat]

Alternately, an alternate and more pleasing possibility is that the player is finally being played.

Keep offering a reduced ban. See if Lance ever provides anything of interest.

Dave.

yes, and throw a shindig at Yellow Rose. on the house Lance, all's better now, ur invited to the party. Even Phil Liggett gets an invite. Will be one big old ho down

 

[Benotti69]

I would argue everyone who matters will know how the script reads.

-Hein did bad stuff.
-Pat did bad stuff.
-I'm a champion.
-Hein did bad stuff.
-Hein did bad stuff.
-Doping was everywhere.
-I'm a champion.
-USADA are #$%%&
-I'm a champion.
-Did you forget I'm a champion?
-Oh, and Pat and Hein did bad stuff. By themselves.
-I'm a champion.

Cookson then recommends a reduction in the ban.

As Bennotti pointed out, Cookson is already playing both sides, so you have to wonder if he's got a negative opinion and some other force in the federation desperately wants Wonderboy back. (Like Hein, or Thom, or Mike Plant for instance)

Just maybe Cookson saw what Weisel did for Hein/Pat and wants some of the same kind of action.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Just maybe Cookson saw what Weisel did for Hein/Pat and wants some of the same kind of action.

Definitely possible.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Thank you for treating cancer patients and volunteering. People like you should get the press and kudos, not guys like Armstrong.

THIS a hundred + times over. Thank you for sure hektoren! you are the real heroes of the world <3

 

[D-Queued]

Another Easter Egg in the CIRC report finally underscores just how serious that TUE backdating was:

"His doctor issued a certificate where not only was the date wrong but also what it attested. The CIRC considers that it was a case of a false medical certificate and therefore the case should have been reported to the criminal authorities."

Thank you, again, Emma for telling folks about it. Sincerely sorry that it has taken this long for folks to appreciate it for what it was.

Quoting the report, notwithstanding everything else that was pepetrated or its magnitude, this was criminal.

Dave.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Another Easter Egg in the CIRC report finally underscores just how serious that TUE backdating was:



Thank you, again, Emma for telling folks about it. Sincerely sorry that it has taken this long for folks to appreciate it for what it was.

Quoting the report, notwithstanding everything else that was pepetrated or its magnitude, this was criminal.

Dave.

Ahh yes. And that's why the IOC does as much as it can to "keep sport independent from politics."

 

[86TDFWinner]

Re: He's Baaaaack

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/othersports/cycling/lancearmstrong/11459892/Lance-Armstrong-to-be-given-opportunity-to-plead-his-case-for-reduction-of-lifetime-ban.html

Reposted.

Cookson gets Verbruggen gone if the CIRC doesn't do it and ideally Wonderboy brings the money back to the sport. This is why I'm not in politics. I could not come up with such a brilliant plan.

Literally no one at the UCI is considering what this looks like. Unrepentant doper and sports fraud welcomed back to the sport he poisoned.

Wonderboy must have made some people at the UCI a ton of money.

I just don't think UCI cares very much. Too much time has passed for them to give a crap.