Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

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So Floyd's now a drug dealer? Okay. Whatever. Not sure why you wanted to hype this.

John Swanson

I'm not sure you are catching what this is eluding to.

Seems like something is a brewing, and this person is giving a heads up.
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
So Floyd's now a drug dealer? Okay. Whatever. Not sure why you wanted to hype this.

John Swanson

I'm not sure you are catching what this is eluding to.

Seems like something is a brewing, and this person is giving a heads up.

Well, on the 10th he intimated that there would be a big reveal on the 24th. So here we are on the 24th and Floyd just announced his new pot business. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/floyd-landis-starts-cannabis-product-business-in-colorado/

Maybe I missed something? Wouldn't be unusual for me....

John Swanson
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
Glenn_Wilson said:
So Floyd's now a drug dealer? Okay. Whatever. Not sure why you wanted to hype this.

John Swanson

I'm not sure you are catching what this is eluding to.

Seems like something is a brewing, and this person is giving a heads up.

Well, on the 10th he intimated that there would be a big reveal on the 24th. So here we are on the 24th and Floyd just announced his new pot business. http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/floyd-landis-starts-cannabis-product-business-in-colorado/

Maybe I missed something? Wouldn't be unusual for me....

John Swanson
YEAH maybe I missed it as well. ROFLMAO

I think I'm the one who really MISSED IT! :lol:

Seems only natural that Floyd would hit the hippy lettuce.
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson
True.

Not sure why SI would be interested in the story. A bit painful in my opinion.

Problem is the slide should not have happened. He only done what all were doing. Whom ever was advising him should be the ones to take the slide.

But he has to make money somehow. Why not peddle the wacky brownies.
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson

Salesman? When does a guy who owns his own business get labeled salesman? Weed is probably the fastest growing seller in parts of USA.

Taking dope to selling dope aint far apart. Except this time it is legitimate. Well done Landis.
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
thehog said:
WASHINGTON (CN) — A federal judge ruled disgraced cyclist and whistleblower Floyd Landis cannot reopen Lance Armstrong's deposition about statements made in a documentary and cannot sue for false claims made more than 12 years ago.
Landis sued Armstrong, former U.S. Postal Service cycling team manager Johan Bruyneel and Armstrong's management company Tailwind Sports in Federal Court in 2010. The United States joined the $100 million lawsuit three years later, after Armstrong admitted to Oprah Winfrey that he used steroids and blood doping to win his record seven consecutive Tour de France victories.
Armstrong gave the interview after he was banned from the sport for life and stripped of his victories. Landis too was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France victory for doping.
Landis claims Bruyneel knew the team was using banned drugs and that Armstrong and Tailwind Sports, among others, knowingly flouted USPS sponsorship agreements signed in 1995 and 2000. Landis could receive up to 30 percent of any recovery as whistleblower.
On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Christopher R. Cooper rejected Landis' motion to compel the reopening of Armstrong's deposition about the authenticity of statements he made in the 2013 Sony-produced documentary "The Armstrong Lie."
Armstrong had told the court the documentary footage "does not accurately reflect the questions asked of him and the answers he gave." He said the content of the questions had been edited and that parts of questions were deleted.
Landis wanted to know what precise questions and answers in the video Armstrong disputes.
Cooper's four-page order said the court "will not require Armstrong to supplement his interrogatory response or to sit for further deposition time." The judge cited a 2004 opinion from an Ohio Federal Court that held videos in another case "fairly depict the actual events that took place" in spite of allegations of editing and deletions making it misleading.
The judge also refused to order Armstrong to identify alleged errors in his deposition transcript.
"[Landis] is equally able to identify discrepancies between the words actually uttered in the documentary and the text of a corresponding transcript," the order states. "If [Landis] wishes to include relevant portions of the transcript in his trial exhibits, the court expects him to ensure their accuracy. If necessary, Armstrong may object to the accuracy of [Landis'] transcript designations in advance of trial."
Cooper on Wednesday also denied Landis' motion to reconsider his earlier ruling that Landis cannot sue for false claims allegedly made prior to June 10, 2004. The judge had earlier ruled that tolling provisions under the False Claims Act do not apply to Landis' claims that the government has not intervened in.
"Because the government had not intervened...the court concluded that [Landis] could recover against them only for allegedly false claims submitted on or after June 10, 2004 — not on or after June 10, 2000, as the tolling provision would have allowed," a seven-page order states.
Cooper rejected Landis' citing of two U.S. Supreme Court rulings, concluding the first "is but a variation" of an earlier argument Cooper rejected, according to the order.
He ruled the second cited case is "equally unavailing" as it relies heavily on a previous case from his district with an approach that was "ultimately rejected."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/06/10/cyclist-dealt-setbacks-in-whistleblower-case.htm

Forget about this. It is all systems go at the high altitude House of Landis. T-minus 14 days. SI interview in the can. Bloomberg on deck.

So Floyd's now a drug dealer? Okay. Whatever. Not sure why you wanted to hype this.

John Swanson

Other cyclists are getting rich off drugs. Why not Floyd?

Floyd is my friend. I wish him luck.

I would post pics but this stupid forum doesn't have a way to attach stuff from my phone. Or at least I cannot see one.
 
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Don't get me wrong. I wish Floyd all the best - I hope he finds this new endeavor rewarding. It's just that I was under the impression that you were alluding to something a bit more grandiose, and given the topic of the thread, involved Lance in some way.

John Swanson
 
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DamianoMachiavelli said:
TourOfSardinia said:
ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson
More honest dollar :Question:

@FloydLeadville: Thank you to everyone for the support. I'm happy to finally be involved in a legitimate industry.

Limited time offer: 15% discount if you show your USA Cycling license.

— Floyd (@FloydLeadville) June 24, 2016
 
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ColoradoDoping said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
TourOfSardinia said:
ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson
More honest dollar :Question:

@FloydLeadville: Thank you to everyone for the support. I'm happy to finally be involved in a legitimate industry.

Limited time offer: 15% discount if you show your USA Cycling license.

— Floyd (@FloydLeadville) June 24, 2016

And then you can endlessly fight your ban and threaten Greg Lemond - Just Like Me!!! <Rage Against the Machine>

John Swanson
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
ColoradoDoping said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
TourOfSardinia said:
ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson
More honest dollar :Question:

@FloydLeadville: Thank you to everyone for the support. I'm happy to finally be involved in a legitimate industry.

Limited time offer: 15% discount if you show your USA Cycling license.

— Floyd (@FloydLeadville) June 24, 2016

And then you can endlessly fight your ban and threaten Greg Lemond - Just Like Me!!! <Rage Against the Machine>

John Swanson

Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
ColoradoDoping said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
TourOfSardinia said:
ScienceIsCool said:
Got to admit, it's a pretty big slide from Tour de France champion to weed salesman.

John Swanson
More honest dollar :Question:

@FloydLeadville: Thank you to everyone for the support. I'm happy to finally be involved in a legitimate industry.

Limited time offer: 15% discount if you show your USA Cycling license.

— Floyd (@FloydLeadville) June 24, 2016

And then you can endlessly fight your ban and threaten Greg Lemond - Just Like Me!!! <Rage Against the Machine>

John Swanson

Threaten lemond? Call him to say greg please stay out of this until I figure out what to do - please stop talking to the press and basically use me as a pawn to get to lance...be ignored and then have that conversation get into the press. Endlessly fight against the ban...well yes obviously he should have just accepted that he took a drug he never took and watched silently as USADA spun the sample a hundred times to get the result they needed...or should have stayed silent when travis 'lost' lab data.
Which does amuse me I must add - betsy saying that Floyd should repay usada...for what?
 
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I'm sittin' here toking on Floyd's Leadvilles, listening to Lance's lame-a$$ podcasts - I really didn't see my life turning out like this....

then again, neither did they!

The world really has turned. Like sands thru the hours...where's my cheezos?
 
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DamianoMachiavelli said:
Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.

I was just being silly. Floyd is offering a discount to racers. For something that will get them a suspension if drug tested... <--- And then they can "fight the man" just like Floyd!! I thought it was hysterical.

John Swanson
 
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DamianoMachiavelli said:
Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.

This is the most clearly stated accusation that Greg LeMond used cocaine while he was a professional. I've seen it alluded to here in the past. Care to share more details?
 
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DamianoMachiavelli said:
ScienceIsCool said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
thehog said:
WASHINGTON (CN) — A federal judge ruled disgraced cyclist and whistleblower Floyd Landis cannot reopen Lance Armstrong's deposition about statements made in a documentary and cannot sue for false claims made more than 12 years ago.
Landis sued Armstrong, former U.S. Postal Service cycling team manager Johan Bruyneel and Armstrong's management company Tailwind Sports in Federal Court in 2010. The United States joined the $100 million lawsuit three years later, after Armstrong admitted to Oprah Winfrey that he used steroids and blood doping to win his record seven consecutive Tour de France victories.
Armstrong gave the interview after he was banned from the sport for life and stripped of his victories. Landis too was stripped of his 2006 Tour de France victory for doping.
Landis claims Bruyneel knew the team was using banned drugs and that Armstrong and Tailwind Sports, among others, knowingly flouted USPS sponsorship agreements signed in 1995 and 2000. Landis could receive up to 30 percent of any recovery as whistleblower.
On Wednesday, U.S. District Judge Christopher R. Cooper rejected Landis' motion to compel the reopening of Armstrong's deposition about the authenticity of statements he made in the 2013 Sony-produced documentary "The Armstrong Lie."
Armstrong had told the court the documentary footage "does not accurately reflect the questions asked of him and the answers he gave." He said the content of the questions had been edited and that parts of questions were deleted.
Landis wanted to know what precise questions and answers in the video Armstrong disputes.
Cooper's four-page order said the court "will not require Armstrong to supplement his interrogatory response or to sit for further deposition time." The judge cited a 2004 opinion from an Ohio Federal Court that held videos in another case "fairly depict the actual events that took place" in spite of allegations of editing and deletions making it misleading.
The judge also refused to order Armstrong to identify alleged errors in his deposition transcript.
"[Landis] is equally able to identify discrepancies between the words actually uttered in the documentary and the text of a corresponding transcript," the order states. "If [Landis] wishes to include relevant portions of the transcript in his trial exhibits, the court expects him to ensure their accuracy. If necessary, Armstrong may object to the accuracy of [Landis'] transcript designations in advance of trial."
Cooper on Wednesday also denied Landis' motion to reconsider his earlier ruling that Landis cannot sue for false claims allegedly made prior to June 10, 2004. The judge had earlier ruled that tolling provisions under the False Claims Act do not apply to Landis' claims that the government has not intervened in.
"Because the government had not intervened...the court concluded that [Landis] could recover against them only for allegedly false claims submitted on or after June 10, 2004 — not on or after June 10, 2000, as the tolling provision would have allowed," a seven-page order states.
Cooper rejected Landis' citing of two U.S. Supreme Court rulings, concluding the first "is but a variation" of an earlier argument Cooper rejected, according to the order.
He ruled the second cited case is "equally unavailing" as it relies heavily on a previous case from his district with an approach that was "ultimately rejected."

http://www.courthousenews.com/2016/06/10/cyclist-dealt-setbacks-in-whistleblower-case.htm

Forget about this. It is all systems go at the high altitude House of Landis. T-minus 14 days. SI interview in the can. Bloomberg on deck.

So Floyd's now a drug dealer? Okay. Whatever. Not sure why you wanted to hype this.

John Swanson

Other cyclists are getting rich off drugs. Why not Floyd?

Floyd is my friend. I wish him luck.


I would post pics but this stupid forum doesn't have a way to attach stuff from my phone. Or at least I cannot see one.


Lol! You're buddies with Floyd eh? Why not have him come here and post, since you know, you guys are such good "friends"?
 
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popular jams said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.

This is the most clearly stated accusation that Greg LeMond used cocaine while he was a professional. I've seen it alluded to here in the past. Care to share more details?

Doubtful. It'll be the typical crickets chirp now that you've asked him/her to post any credible verifiable into on this. Watch the excuses fly as to why they can't post it.
 
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86TDFWinner said:
popular jams said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.

This is the most clearly stated accusation that Greg LeMond used cocaine while he was a professional. I've seen it alluded to here in the past. Care to share more details?

Doubtful. It'll be the typical crickets chirp now that you've asked him/her to post any credible verifiable into on this. Watch the excuses fly as to why they can't post it.

Well there's also the problem that Floyd wasn't even riding when Greg was a pro. So any accusation would be based on a lengthy chain of rumors. Becky told me that George sold the pot that Frank gave to Sophie who smoked it behind the bleachers kind of thing.

John Swanson
 
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ScienceIsCool said:
86TDFWinner said:
popular jams said:
DamianoMachiavelli said:
Or you could pretend you are against doping because a fellow countryman surpassed your accomplishments even as you protect your friends and teammates who were even more doped; and then when a rider calls you to complain about being dragged into the feud, you could go to the public and lie about him admitting he doped.

Hey, you think a rider with a cocaine problem never rode a race while coked up? Doesn't sound very clean to me.

This is the most clearly stated accusation that Greg LeMond used cocaine while he was a professional. I've seen it alluded to here in the past. Care to share more details?

Doubtful. It'll be the typical crickets chirp now that you've asked him/her to post any credible verifiable into on this. Watch the excuses fly as to why they can't post it.

Well there's also the problem that Floyd wasn't even riding when Greg was a pro. So any accusation would be based on a lengthy chain of rumors. Becky told me that George sold the pot that Frank gave to Sophie who smoked it behind the bleachers kind of thing.

John Swanson

Which proves my point....no one has credible/verifiable proof that Greg doped or did cocaine, or anything else illegal.

But hey, let them keep on claiming such....it's always good for a smile.
 
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Lol! You're buddies with Floyd eh? Why not have him come here and post, since you know, you guys are such good "friends"?


For all we know he could be here.

Back in the day Floyd was on a message board.

It does appear that DM is actual real life friends with Floyd.
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
Lol! You're buddies with Floyd eh? Why not have him come here and post, since you know, you guys are such good "friends"?


For all we know he could be here.

Back in the day Floyd was on a message board.

It does appear that DM is actual real life friends with Floyd.

C'mon man, this is the clinic. "no one has credible/verifiable proof" that he didn't. Isn't that good enough?