Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

[Maxiton]

Hey, anybody notice what day it is?

Edit: Never mind, beat me to it. But yeah, Tuesday came.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Final act in classical tragedy just began ...
Joy no longer seems appropriate
as with the witch is dead, too.

 

[sittingbison]

you guys are all completeley misguided.....its afternoon tea time Wednesday

 

[webvan]

It isn't over until Floyd gets paid.

How much is he entitled to in theory? I think I read "up to 25%" ? 25% of 120 million, hum...he can pay back the people who bought his book with that and Weisel and friends who had gifted him money for his defense ! Looks he'll be better off than if Dopestrong had given him a job when he asked for one...

 

[Ferminal]

How much is he entitled to in theory? I think I read "up to 25%" ? 25% of 120 million, hum...he can pay back the people who bought his book with that and Weisel and friends who had gifted him money for his defense ! Looks he'll be better off than if Dopestrong had given him a job when he asked for one...

Funny thing is the loop created by the ruling against Floyd which means he has to pay his FFF money back or whatever it was.

 

[webvan]

FFF money? Oh, Floyd Fairness Fund, right, that's going to be less than $30 million though. We'll see how it plays out but Dopestrong certainly deserves all the sh@t that will come his way and then some.

 

[ChrisE]

FFF money? Oh, Floyd Fairness Fund, right, that's going to be less than $30 million though. We'll see how it plays out but Dopestrong certainly deserves all the sh@t that will come his way and then some.

Yes, and to top it all off FL I am sure deserves what is coming to him. Let's see....doping while on USPS and not reporting it then (some whistleblower), continuing to dope afterwards and getting DQ'd from the TdF, lying and defrauding idiots (FFF supporters), wasting USADA $ fighting the charges, shaming a cycling icon, lying up until the last minute until LA didn't give him a job (bad move, LA), and he is still saying he did not take T (but everything else but the kitchen sink) during that tour.

All of that, you now get millions. We will see if the FFF clowns get paid back. I personally hope they don't; I have no sympathy for idiots giving $ to con artists.

Only in America, and applauded by the hypocrites in the clinic.

 

[andy1234]

Armstrong deserves to be screwed, but Landis doesn't deserve to benefit in any way.
Landis receiving any payment after the *** he has been up to, is simply ridiculous.
The players in this farce continue to be an embarrassment to their sport and country.

 

[webvan]

Well this is the Dopestrong thread and I don't have much sympathy for Landis, never believed his lies unlike many, however there are two things to keep in mind :
1. He's already lost everything (fame, reputation, wife, etc...)
2. Without him Dopestrong would not have been exposed

 

[BroDeal]

Armstrong deserves to be screwed, but Landis doesn't deserve to benefit in any way.
Landis receiving any payment after the *** he has been up to, is simply ridiculous.
The players in this farce continue to be an embarrassment to their sport and country.

If it was not for Landis then none of this would have happened. It is not like Vaughters and his merry band of dopers would have stuck their neck out. They were perfectly happy to see Armstrong ride off into the sunset with his reputation intact, clutching his bags of ill-gotten loot. Landis was the one rider who had the guts to rip the lid off the can of worms. If he gets compensated for it then so what? We have whistleblower laws and the false claims act for a reason: To encourage people to expose wrongdoing.

I hope Landis makes a pile. It is no less absurd than having Pereiro as the recognized 2006 winner.

 

[Carols]

Now Lance is going to be deposed by the USA, and he's going to have to answer at least every question that USADA would have asked him under oath and under penalty of perjury.

Lance knows that the feds have a mountain of evidence against him from the criminal case. The federal civil lawyers will probably not have access to that information--which should mean that Lance will not be able to get access to that information.

But the federal criminal prosecutors (Birotte's people and maybe the San Diego people) will be watching Lance's civil deposition testimony and if Lance lies, then Lance may be opening himself up to a criminal prosecution. Lance's deposition will be a minefield for him. This appears to be major leverage for the feds. And Lance's deposition here won't be like the SCA deposition--a few hours under oath--Lance's deposition in this multimillion dollar lawsuit will take days and it will be extremely detailed.

My prediction: Lance will posture hardball, like he always does. And, when pressured, he will fold like a cheap suit.

Can he just plead the 5th?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Yes, and to top it all off FL I am sure deserves what is coming to him. Let's see....doping while on USPS and not reporting it then (some whistleblower), continuing to dope afterwards and getting DQ'd from the TdF, lying and defrauding idiots (FFF supporters), wasting USADA $ fighting the charges, shaming a cycling icon, lying up until the last minute until LA didn't give him a job (bad move, LA), and he is still saying he did not take T (but everything else but the kitchen sink) during that tour.

All of that, you now get millions. We will see if the FFF clowns get paid back. I personally hope they don't; I have no sympathy for idiots giving $ to con artists.

Only in America, and applauded by the hypocrites in the clinic.

Armstrong deserves to be screwed, but Landis doesn't deserve to benefit in any way.
Landis receiving any payment after the *** he has been up to, is simply ridiculous.
The players in this farce continue to be an embarrassment to their sport and country.

I think Floyd deserves every penny just for the satisfaction I had sitting there 3 years ago and reading the hand grenade he tossed into the world of cycling. I couldn't care less why he did it. Like I said, the Dude just wanted his rug back, and Armstrong a fool not to give it to him. Past that, requiring a pure heart as the motivation for any actions taken by humans is pollyannaish stupidity.

Floyd deserves that money more than anyone because nobody else had the balls to pull the pin. Every single one of his other teammates knew the truth, and all of them were too scared of what Big Bad Armstrong would do to them to cop to it. Floyd figured Armstrong couldn't take away anything because he didn't have anything. He will have something now, and I will have the continued satisfaction of watching a bully get the living sh!t knocked out of him. Hell, I might send Floyd a Jackson just because I've been entertained.

 

[Steve H.]

If Floyd gets millions, he may become the next Piñata of cycling.

 

[thehog]

If it was not for Landis then none of this would have happened. It is not like Vaughters and his merry band of dopers would have stuck their neck out. They were perfectly happy to see Armstrong ride off into the sunset with his reputation intact, clutching his bags of ill-gotten loot. Landis was the one rider who had the guts to rip the lid off the can of worms. If he gets compensated for it then so what? We have whistleblower laws and the false claims act for a reason: To encourage people to expose wrongdoing.

I hope Landis makes a pile. It is no less absurd than having Pereiro as the recognized 2006 winner.

Agreed.

You'd have fence sitting Vaughters ummming and ahhhhing about "things" that might have happened.

God help us.

I mean without Floyd Lance would have won 10 Tours by now and he and Wiggins would still be in love.

 

[Race Radio]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i...xas-symposium-article-1.1324698#ixzz2RLff0vGs

Now lance is reduced to "local bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

Only a matter of time before it is "Disgraced former bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

 

[ChewbaccaD]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i...xas-symposium-article-1.1324698#ixzz2RLff0vGs

Now lance is reduced to "local bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

Only a matter of time before it is "Disgraced former bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

I particularly like this quote:

That Armstrong was so disproportionately outraged by such a comment was one of the first clues for rational observers that he had something to hide.

Emphasis added.

 

[MarkvW]

Can he just plead the 5th?

He can, but in a civil case that usually results in an adverse inference against the person claiming the Fifth.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/i...xas-symposium-article-1.1324698#ixzz2RLff0vGs

Now lance is reduced to "local bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

Only a matter of time before it is "Disgraced former bike-shop owner Lance Armstrong"

That he is now referred to as a 'local bike shop owner' is a blanket insult to the thousands of LBS owners across the country, who perform a valuable service to their respective communities. #insultedLBSowners.

 

[andy1234]

If it was not for Landis then none of this would have happened. It is not like Vaughters and his merry band of dopers would have stuck their neck out. They were perfectly happy to see Armstrong ride off into the sunset with his reputation intact, clutching his bags of ill-gotten loot. Landis was the one rider who had the guts to rip the lid off the can of worms. If he gets compensated for it then so what? We have whistleblower laws and the false claims act for a reason: To encourage people to expose wrongdoing.

I hope Landis makes a pile. It is no less absurd than having Pereiro as the recognized 2006 winner.

Landis didn't have guts, he just had nothing to lose.
Landis getting paid for this, is no less disgusting, just because its legal, or that the evidence is important.

 

[thehog]

He can, but in a civil case that usually results in an adverse inference against the person claiming the Fifth.

In England it's called "taking the p1ss".

 

[D-Queued]

Yes, and to top it all off FL I am sure deserves what is coming to him. Let's see....doping while on USPS and not reporting it then (some whistleblower), continuing to dope afterwards and getting DQ'd from the TdF, lying and defrauding idiots (FFF supporters), wasting USADA $ fighting the charges, shaming a cycling icon, lying up until the last minute until LA didn't give him a job (bad move, LA), and he is still saying he did not take T (but everything else but the kitchen sink) during that tour.

All of that, you now get millions. We will see if the FFF clowns get paid back. I personally hope they don't; I have no sympathy for idiots giving $ to con artists.

Only in America, and applauded by the hypocrites in the clinic.

When you are looking to identify hypocrites, please start by looking in the mirror.

You know full well that is the folks here in the Clinic that are largely responsible for not succumbing to the BS of the Wiki defense and that provided the lion's share of the ammunition to expose the FFF fraud.

Yes, there is some sort of perverse justice that Floyd may profit from Lance's failure. But, the irony is compelling because it is further proof that Lance has been hoist by his own petard.

That one of those he coerced, aided, abetted and then castigated should profit because of Lance's deeds can be admired in isolation from the JD and beer defense along with the Floyd Fleeces Forever boondoggle.

Time for you to admit that your support of Lance has been completely misguided.

And, stop trying to deflect the criticism of Lance that is rightly due by trying to shift the focus to criticism of others.

That is, quite frankly, a chicken-sh!t defense.

Dave.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

Can he just plead the 5th?

Even if he could it would not necessarily be his best choice. That would mean he chooses to remain silent and leave the evidence against him uncontested.

Plus, I don't think he would be capable of keeping his mouth shut while the prosecution is plunging a diamond-tipped reamer into his cornhole.

 

[goggalor]

Landis didn't have guts, he just had nothing to lose.
Landis getting paid for this, is no less disgusting, just because its legal, or that the evidence is important.

Nah, he had some guts as well. He took a ton of abuse, and barely got any support, even from his former pals at slipstream, who were happy to sit idly by and watch him get **** on. When they weren't busy doing the ****ting, that is.

 

[Benotti69]

Nah, he had some guts as well. He took a ton of abuse, and barely got any support, even from his former pals at slipstream, who were happy to sit idly by and watch him get **** on. When they weren't busy doing the ****ting, that is.

Absolutely.

Garmin have made hay on the back of Landis's fight.

 

[Fortyninefourteen]

If Floyd gets millions, he may become the next Piñata of cycling.

Awesomeness would be Floyd donating 100K of his winnings to the UCI.......