Official Lance Armstrong Thread: Part 3 (Post-Confession)

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andy1234 said:
Yeah it's absurd to think that Frankie acted on behalf of Armstrong, to approach another rider.
Are you saying that the size of the offer somehow precludes Frankie from doing this? I'm fairly certain Armstrong wouldn't have asked Frankie to foot the bill :rolleyes:

I guess Frankie would have no reason to deny being involved in an insurance fraud?
I can see why you thought "One portion raised a real concern"

Frankie talked to Juliet about it said it didn't happen and said he wouldn't have had the authority to do this on his own volition either. I talked to Scott McKinley yesterday and he said it didn't happen either. He said it would've been nice to have been contacted by her but he wasn't. I've tried contacted her but haven't heard back yet. I don't know why she didn't include Frankie's refutation but as with Wheelmen there will be complaints. If she writes I feed my family fast food because I'm too lazy to cook, she's in trouble ;)

If journalists want to print what lance says, then they should attribute it to him - presuming he did with her (although I don't think she bought 98% of his BS) what he did with the free press.
 
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Judge denied Armstrong's motion in the SCA case, it will go to the arbitration panel. This is going to be very expensive for Lance
 
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Race Radio said:
Judge denied Armstrong's motion in the SCA case, it will go to the arbitration panel. This is going to be very expensive for Lance

That's a shame, I'm gutted for him:D
 
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Bosco10 said:
You think Lance is sorry that he lied big?
Kind of like sorry - sorry for ever admitting he doped.
The legal judgment in the judge's decision cited "puffery". Kinda like you can't sue the local coffee shop for claiming to have the world's best coffee when it's not.
 
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Have the arbitrators articulated what the scope of the hearing is going to be? Is anything available online?
 
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MarkvW said:
Have the arbitrators articulated what the scope of the hearing is going to be? Is anything available online?

As I understand it this was only to address if the panel can hear it. They can

Now, I would assume, it is time for some depositions under oath. :eek:
 
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elizab said:
Kind of like sorry - sorry for ever admitting he doped.
The legal judgment in the judge's decision cited "puffery". Kinda like you can't sue the local coffee shop for claiming to have the world's best coffee when it's not.

He also might be sorry for being such a glory hog and making that "triumphant comeback."

I knew the FRS case was a long shot, same with the class action against Lance and his books.
 
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elizab said:
Frankie talked to Juliet about it said it didn't happen and said he wouldn't have had the authority to do this on his own volition either. I talked to Scott McKinley yesterday and he said it didn't happen either. He said it would've been nice to have been contacted by her but he wasn't. I've tried contacted her but haven't heard back yet. I don't know why she didn't include Frankie's refutation but as with Wheelmen there will be complaints. If she writes I feed my family fast food because I'm too lazy to cook, she's in trouble ;)

If journalists want to print what lance says, then they should attribute it to him - presuming he did with her (although I don't think she bought 98% of his BS) what he did with the free press.

Forgive me if I simply don't take you at your word, regarding events surrounding your husband.
I'm not claiming that you are not telling the truth, just that you have every motivation to protect your family, and because of that, your assertions can't be taken at face value.

I may be doing you a grave disservice with this stance, but events are rarely as simple as one side good, the other side bad. Frankly, I would prefer to see all the players in this soap opera simply slide away, but it seems neither side will let that happen.
 

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andy1234 said:
Forgive me if I simply don't take you at your word, regarding events surrounding your husband.
I'm not claiming that you are not telling the truth, just that you have every motivation to protect your family, and because of that, your assertions can't be taken at face value.

I may be doing you a grave disservice with this stance, but events are rarely as simple as one side good, the other side bad. Frankly, I would prefer to see all the players in this soap opera simply slide away, but it seems neither side will let that happen.
If Frankie did negotiate a deal - how would that impact on the Andreus?
 
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andy1234 said:
Forgive me if I simply don't take you at your word, regarding events surrounding your husband.
I'm not claiming that you are not telling the truth, just that you have every motivation to protect your family, and because of that, your assertions can't be taken at face value.

I may be doing you a grave disservice with this stance, but events are rarely as simple as one side good, the other side bad. Frankly, I would prefer to see all the players in this soap opera simply slide away, but it seems neither side will let that happen.

Had I only heeded your advice long ago we'd be the ones who opened up a hotel ;)

Dr. Maserati, the 50K was just loose cash lying around. Had the money from the pushing and enforcing until wonderboy took over. Come on get with the program, doc. No pun intended
 

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Bosco10 said:
You think Lance will settle out of court with SCA, as he did with Acceptance?
It certainly would look that way - Acceptance won their case that would get LA to testify under oath. He baulked and paid them.

This looks as its going to be similar - but there is a higher price tag.
 
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elizab said:
Had I only heeded your advice long ago we'd be the ones who opened up a hotel ;)

Dr. Maserati, the 50K was just loose cash lying around. Had the money from the pushing and enforcing until wonderboy took over. Come on get with the program, doc. No pun intended

I'm not sure anyone is claiming Frankie provided the money, I certainly didn't.
That really would be a strange turn of events.

Approaching another rider on behalf of a team mate, however, doesn't cost a dime, and wasn't an uncommon practice.
 

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andy1234 said:
I'm not sure anyone is claiming Frankie provided the money, I certainly didn't.
That really would be a strange turn of events.

Approaching another rider on behalf of a team mate, however, doesn't cost a dime, and wasn't an uncommon practice.
Indeed - but you cannot just roll up and offer $50k unless it was authorised.
If that was done usually its done by the managers or team captain, which at that race was Anderson.
The story doesn't gel.
 
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Race Radio said:
Judge denied Armstrong's motion in the SCA case, it will go to the arbitration panel. This is going to be very expensive for Lance
And it couldn't happen to a nicer guy. :D
 
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Bosco10 said:
You think Lance will settle out of court with SCA, as he did with Acceptance?

I think Race Radio is probably right about depositions. Lance fears them.

My favorite theory is that Lance went under oath for Birotte just like all the other Posties did, and that was one of the last acts of the federal criminal investigation. This puts Lance squarely in danger of a perjury prosecution if he testifies to anything different in any of his assorted civil cases. That would surely make Lance nervous about a deposition.

I can't think of any other compelling reason for Lance to fear depositions. It's not like he has anything more to lose by telling the truth.

I don't see the SCA people backing down. I expect Lance to pay their price.
 
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andy1234 said:
Frankly, I would prefer to see all the players in this soap opera simply slide away, but it seems neither side will let that happen.

Then why do you keep obsessing on Frankie? He had slid away very nicely until George, and now you and some others, insisted on bringing him back. Seems pretty clear to me that only one side is involved in this.

Puffery - sounds like a good description of much of la's life.
 
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Merckx index said:
Then why do you keep obsessing on Frankie? He had slid away very nicely until George, and now you and some others, insisted on bringing him back. Seems pretty clear to me that only one side is involved in this.

Puffery - sounds like a good description of much of la's life.

You need to double check who is bringing him into these threads.
Who originally pointed out the Hincapie article? Who pointed out the "concerning" passage in this new book?

If RR wants to use him to prove a point, expect it to be questioned.
 

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andy1234 said:
You need to double check who is bringing him into these threads.
Who originally pointed out the Hincapie article? Who pointed out the "concerning" passage in this new book?

If RR wants to use him to prove a point, expect it to be questioned.

RR brings him in to the threads - who is the one who is bringing Frankie in to the discussion for RR to bring in the threads?
It's not RR, and it's not Frankie.