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TheMaverick

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Dr. Maserati said:
Please do not edit my posts.

This is what I asked:
Now - your turn to answer my question - not "Now answer my question" as you have above.

It is the question about other usernames.

But you didn't answer my question. After repeatedly strongly implying through your question about 2006 that only the Ferrari backed rider will win, you then changed your story and said this is not what you were saying at all. You could have just said that from the beginning.

Your question about usernames is irrelevent trolling.
 

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TheMaverick said:
But you didn't answer my question. After repeatedly strongly implying through your question about 2006 that only the Ferrari backed rider will win, you then changed your story and said this is not what you were saying at all. You could have just said that from the beginning.

Your question about usernames is irrelevent trolling.

Well if I "repeatedly, strongly implied" that only a Ferrari rider could win then could you please copy and post it - as I never suggested that (or implied).

Trolling is having to misquote someone for effect as you have done - I have asked the question of you and it is relevant, and as you have avoided answering it you have confirmed the answer and I don't wish to waste my time with you.
 
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TheMaverick said:
It's an honest point. The guy made most of his money from what he did in Europe, directly or indirectly. In the minds of the public it's not that unreasonable that he keeps his cash.
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BTW, you do understand that US tax laws apply to income made world wide.....so yes, bags of cash from post Tour crits and swiss numbered accounts have to be included on your taxes.

Goodbye BPC.
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Derailed?

Guys,

Pedalling squares wasn't kidding about the lack of independent value add.

Maverick, BPC, or whoever he is appears to have successfully derailed any conversation about Kingston.

There certainly seem to be a number of things to discuss
- A committee chairman interfering in a judicial process
- Connections with well-known pork (tobacco lobby, Abramoff)
- Voting record on other health issues

This appears to be a very strange bedfellow for Lance (tobacco support, no support for health issues, yet must have been a lobby target given his relationship with the FDA.

If Lance spent $9+ of Livestrong funds on legal & consulting last year, how much will Jack take this year?

Anyone for discussing Jack? Can we put BPC/whoever on ignore?

Dave.
 
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D-Queued said:
Guys,

Pedalling squares wasn't kidding about the lack of independent value add.

Maverick, BPC, or whoever he is appears to have successfully derailed any conversation about Kingston.

There certainly seem to be a number of things to discuss
- A committee chairman interfering in a judicial process
- Connections with well-known pork (tobacco lobby, Abramoff)
- Voting record on other health issues

This appears to be a very strange bedfellow for Lance (tobacco support, no support for health issues, yet must have been a lobby target given his relationship with the FDA.

If Lance spent $9+ of Livestrong funds on legal & consulting last year, how much will Jack take this year?

Anyone for discussing Jack? Can we put BPC/whoever on ignore?

Dave.

Agreed. I count that as a troll victory, unfortunately. This new steamy pile is a lot more interesting than TdF results and Ferrari's rep.

Strange bedfellow indeed. How can Fabiani view this as a positive connection. Yanks - help a brother out...
 
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Anyone any objections to me deleting some trolling posts + replies so we are back to on topic only? I'd prefer to, but people have spent quit a bit of time on detailed responses.
 
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Man, that guy is relentless. I'm starting to think he's been sent from the future to change that very future.

On the otherhand, he must be excellent at picking up girls: he just keeps coming back no matter the number of rejections. It's a numbers game; he wears them down in the end. It takes a very special kind of psychopathology. Big fan.
 
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D-Queued said:
Guys,

Pedalling squares wasn't kidding about the lack of independent value add.

Maverick, BPC, or whoever he is appears to have successfully derailed any conversation about Kingston.

There certainly seem to be a number of things to discuss
- A committee chairman interfering in a judicial process
- Connections with well-known pork (tobacco lobby, Abramoff)
- Voting record on other health issues

This appears to be a very strange bedfellow for Lance (tobacco support, no support for health issues, yet must have been a lobby target given his relationship with the FDA.

If Lance spent $9+ of Livestrong funds on legal & consulting last year, how much will Jack take this year?

Anyone for discussing Jack? Can we put BPC/whoever on ignore?

Dave.

You ask some relevant questions as to any politician running in front of an investigation. Usually they are looking to jump on the bandwagon to associate themselves with a righteous cause. That, or they are expecting serious campaign contributions to come, or continue to come. The ultimate players USADA and the other Federal agencies may be investigating are a more likely source of the political currency and perhaps some elected officials will be embarrassed in the process. Lance is emerging as a pawn in this situation the more they repeat the refrain of "wasted money". I'd look several tiers beyond Lance to the source of congressional pressure.
 
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The premise that Jack Kingston is somehow in bed with Lance Armstrong is just astounding. Desperation makes for very strange bedfellows. Have they considered the awful stains that will come out in the wash? Ewww

Procycling's Watergate. The question is, who's going to be Bernstein and Woodward?
 
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Stingray34 said:
This Kingston clown is an interesting development. Do you think he's latched onto the Armstrong FDA case to score points over Democrat spending, or is there a more sinister motivation? Is it possible a 'contribution' has be made to the good congressman? If so, why pick such a turkey? It would be too crazy.

Now that I think of it, it's a pretty dumb question on my behalf.

because TeamLA are very very desperate:D
 
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Stingray34 said:
The premise that Jack Kingston is somehow in bed with Lance Armstrong is just astounding. Desperation makes for very strange bedfellows. Have they considered the awful stains that will come out in the wash? Ewww

Procycling's Watergate. The question is, who's going to be Bernstein and Woodward?

there are a few nominations for those positions;

LeMond
Walsh
Ballestre
Kimmage
Voets
Bassons


Take your pick.
 

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Dr. Maserati said:
Thats the second time you have brought up $200 million - can you link or cite that amount?

Also - using unapproved drugs, trafficking, distribution, and fraud weren't crimes at the time?

He can's share the PS/Bazaar internal docs, so probably not.
 
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Stingray34 said:
Have they considered the awful stains that will come out in the wash? Ewww

Procycling's Watergate. The question is, who's going to be Bernstein and Woodward?

They don't need Woodward and Bernstein, they need Procter & Gamble...
 
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MacRoadie said:
They don't need Woodward and Bernstein, they need Procter & Gamble...

Anyone confused about the investigation's true aim should read the CNN.com article discussing the vulnerability of international drug supplies. I don't know it the attached link works but some quotes:

http://money.cnn.com/2011/03/14/new..._challenges/index.htm?source=cnn_bin&hpt=Sbin

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- A senior Food and Drug Administration regulator warned that another public health crisis may be inevitable because the agency can't guarantee the safety of many drugs and food products manufactured overseas.

"The safety of America's food and medical products is under serious challenge," John Taylor, FDA's acting principal deputy commissioner, said Monday.

1Email Print He said the safety agency must reinvent itself to operate more effectively globally, or "another public health crisis like Heparin seems inevitable."

Contaminants in blood thinner Heparin produced in China have been linked to more than 100 deaths in the United States in 2008.

The FDA is responsible for overseeing the safety and manufacturing quality of food, drugs, medical devices, vaccines, cosmetics and tobacco products.

U.S. takes over three Tylenol plants
Speaking at the Pew Health Group conference in Washington D.C., Taylor said the FDA can't keep up with how quickly manufacturing has shifted overseas.

Decades ago, Taylor said the agency had a better grip on ensuring the safety of those products because most of them were made in the United States.

But today, he said, the agency is crippled in its mission to protect the health of Americans since a lot of medicine sold in the U.S. is made abroad and outside of strict FDA oversight.


This dim-sh*t congressman won't make much of dent in the powers forcing this case. Picture Lance as poster-boy for a compromised pescription drug supply and his handlers as black-marketeers.
 
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Oldman said:
This dim-sh*t congressman won't make much of dent in the powers forcing this case. Picture Lance as poster-boy for a compromised pescription drug supply and his handlers as black-marketeers.

You may have nailed nicely and succinctly right there. Good on ya!

Mind you I'm a chain-smoking, non-human, 9-11 survivor, primate who loves Jesus and is absolutely certain the earth is only 5000 years old. I'm probably wrong...
 

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Oldman said:
Anyone confused about the investigation's true aim should read the CNN.com article discussing the vulnerability of international drug supplies.....

This dim-sh*t congressman won't make much of dent in the powers forcing this case. Picture Lance as poster-boy for a compromised pescription drug supply and his handlers as black-marketeers.

You are saying Lance is linked to Chinese Heparin Counterfeiting?
Thats a new one.

RICO, Fraud, Tax Evasion, Global Drug Distribution - and now Chinese Drug Counterfeiting. Novitzsky has struck gold with this Lance case.
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
You may have nailed nicely and succinctly right there. Good on ya!

Mind you I'm a chain-smoking, non-human, 9-11 survivor, primate who loves Jesus and is absolutely certain the earth is only 5000 years old. I'm probably wrong...

I was told 6000 yo. But hey, 6000, 2,000,000, it's in the ballpark. :D
 
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veganrob said:
I was told 6000 yo. But hey, 6000, 2,000,000, it's in the ballpark. :D

As far as I can see it, it's still populated by the same number of retards so it really doesn't matter. I've got a dinosaur I'm in the middle of digging up in the backyard. It looks like he's got Fred Flinstone in his jaws, I'll let you know how it works out.

Dinosaurs ate cave-men, right?
 
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JMBeaushrimp said:
As far as I can see it, it's still populated by the same number of retards so it really doesn't matter. I've got a dinosaur I'm in the middle of digging up in the backyard. It looks like he's got Fred Flinstone in his jaws, I'll let you know how it works out.

Dinosaurs ate cave-men, right?

LOL

There was cavemen? Dinosaurs?
 
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veganrob said:
LOL

There was cavemen? Dinosaurs?

Sorry, quasi-jesus geo-dwellars. And giant f*cking lizards god hid in the ground to test our faith.

If HE didn't put them there, you're going to hell...
 
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Kodiak said:
Meeting with his staff on March 24th... Love an open house meeting. Hope he shows up but doubt he will.

Kodiak

Also please make sure to ask him about Georgia's water laws, ... and why he is supporting the poster child for wasteful water usage.

The Georgia Water Quality Control Act declares that the water resources of the state shall be utilized prudently for the maximum benefit of Lance Armstrong (was "the people")

As a Congressman, he should be well aware that the negative implications whatever cause he champions will reflect directly onto him. Occassionally (just occassionally) politicians can and do exhibit enough political savvy to avoid loser causes.

Perhaps Jack is trying to insert his own name in the following headlines:

Lance Armstrong: Champion Cyclist and Water Waster?

Lance Armstrong: Champion Water User

Lance Armstrong is Top Residential Water User in Austin

In the News: Lance Armstrong's a Champion of Water Wasting

Tour de Faux Pas: Lance Armstrong Becomes Austin’s Top HH Water Consumer

"...Ironically one of the “Dares” you can take on Armstrong’s healthy living LiveStrong website is to drink more water"

"...one of the biggest users of water in the whole state"

"...the retired cyclist has consistently used a gluttonous amount of water in his Austin home..."

Gluttony. Right up there with lust and greed on the seven deadly list.

“There’s no justification for that much water.” He added, “I need to fix this (by draining the reservoir).”

Did Lance's water consumption have anything to do with how the Tour de Georgia got into trouble?

Dave.
 
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D-Queued said:
Also please make sure to ask him about Georgia's water laws, ... and why he is supporting the poster child for wasteful water usage.



As a Congressman, he should be well aware that the negative implications whatever cause he champions will reflect directly onto him. Occassionally (just occassionally) politicians can and do exhibit enough political savvy to avoid loser causes.

Perhaps Jack is trying to insert his own name in the following headlines:

Lance Armstrong: Champion Cyclist and Water Waster?

Lance Armstrong: Champion Water User

Lance Armstrong is Top Residential Water User in Austin

In the News: Lance Armstrong's a Champion of Water Wasting

Tour de Faux Pas: Lance Armstrong Becomes Austin’s Top HH Water Consumer

"...Ironically one of the “Dares” you can take on Armstrong’s healthy living LiveStrong website is to drink more water"

"...one of the biggest users of water in the whole state"

"...the retired cyclist has consistently used a gluttonous amount of water in his Austin home..."

Gluttony. Right up there with lust and greed on the seven deadly list.

“There’s no justification for that much water.” He added, “I need to fix this (by draining the reservoir).”

Did Lance's water consumption have anything to do with how the Tour de Georgia got into trouble?

Dave.

Look at all the goods coming out of this alliance.

I was just p*ssing at the 'letter carrier' that this aspect of the thread should have stood on its own.

This is going to get way too crazy to be hidden in a general thread - it involves a creationist in Georgia with a national soap-box who supports a purported fraud implicated in multiple federal misdeeds. ALL which involve cycling - at the moment anyway.

Let's pop this bizzle out on its own again.
 
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