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[Race Radio]

the fact that you had to look up ennui

When we go to the Sushi place my wife always gets that stuff....I prefer the toro

 

[Anonymous]

When we go to the Sushi place my wife always gets that stuff....I prefer the toro

Mine eats Uni with a raw quail egg on top. Nastiest thing I have ever seen. I'm okay with unagi, maguro, sake, hiramasa...pretty much all the lightweight stuff. The wife is much more adventurous than am I.

 

[thirteen]

When we go to the Sushi place my wife always gets that stuff....I prefer the toro

i love toro!

 

[Oldman]

And here I thought there was intelligence in NC,

Ennui : a feeling of utter weariness and discontent resulting from satiety or lack of interest; boredom

Yes and it's next to the state of West Nnui. The folks are pretty dull and don't have any jurisdiction over the Fed's case.

 

[thirteen]

Mine eats Uni with a raw quail egg on top. Nastiest thing I have ever seen. I'm okay with unagi, maguro, sake, hiramasa...pretty much all the lightweight stuff. The wife is much more adventurous than am I.

oh my! it is so tempting to say something (as a female) but my lips are sealed, lest i be banned

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

oh my! it is so tempting to say something (as a female) but my lips are sealed, lest i be banned

Yeah, my brighter side passed on that as well. Talk about an open door...

 

[Anonymous]

oh my! it is so tempting to say something (as a female) but my lips are sealed, lest i be banned

...and you'd be correct. She grew up the daughter of hippie nudest parents. Works for me...

 

[Race Radio]

...and you'd be correct. She grew up the daughter of hippie nudest parents. Works for me...

This post is useless without pics

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

This post is useless without pics

once again, showing up late to the party...

 

[BroDeal]

Kingston praised Armstrong, a cancer survivor, as an American sport hero...

Deep thoughts from Jack Kingston:

"I believe I came from God, not from a monkey." He added, "If it happened over millions and millions of years, there should be lots of fossil evidence."

Kingston is a moron. He'll be ranting about the flat earth next.

Things must be pretty bad on Planet Armstrong when he has to rely on a creationist crackpot to come to his defense.

 

[MacRoadie]

"I believe I came from God, not from a monkey." He added, "If it happened over millions and millions of years, there should be lots of fossil evidence."

I've seen lots of fossils. They have a store at the mall...

 

[sniper]

Deep thoughts from Jack Kingston:

"I believe I came from God, not from a monkey." He added, "If it happened over millions and millions of years, there should be lots of fossil evidence."

Kingston is a moron. He'll be ranting about the flat earth next.

Things must be pretty bad on Planet Armstrong when he has to rely on a creationist crackpot to come to his defense.

this guy's mindset seems pretty fossilized to me.

 

[D-Queued]

Deep thoughts from Jack Kingston:

"I believe I came from God, not from a monkey." He added, "If it happened over millions and millions of years, there should be lots of fossil evidence."

Kingston is a moron. He'll be ranting about the flat earth next.

Things must be pretty bad on Planet Armstrong when he has to rely on a creationist crackpot to come to his defense.

You guys have it all wrong.

He isn't saying that you didn't evolve from monkeys, just that he was placed here by god. For your benefit. Kind of like Lance.

Birds of a feather and all that.

Dave.

 

[Dallas_]

payments to Ferrari and the UCI

Couple of related questions:

From an IRS angle, is it possible secret Swiss accounts have been used for payments? Payments to 2 entities spring to mind.

A: Ferrari. In the SCA testimony, he was evasive about what method he paid Ferrari. Have payments been declared on US soil?

B: UCI. Miracleboy has always tried to be evasive on the UCI payments, even denying at one time.

Would the IRS or Novitzky investigate to this depth.

cheers

 

[Race Radio]

Couple of related questions:

From an IRS angle, is it possible secret Swiss accounts have been used for payments? Payments to 2 entities spring to mind.

A: Ferrari. In the SCA testimony, he was evasive about what method he paid Ferrari. Have payments been declared on US soil?

B: UCI. Miracleboy has always tried to be evasive on the UCI payments, even denying at one time.

Would the IRS or Novitzky investigate to this depth.

cheers

Yes, they will

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

Didn't Switzerland recently agree to disclose the owners of numbered accounts to foreign governments? Under the auspices of fighting tax evasion? Something like that.

Pretty sweet timing for this goat-show...

 

[sniper]

Didn't Switzerland recently agree to disclose the owners of numbered accounts to foreign governments? Under the auspices of fighting tax evasion? Something like that.

Pretty sweet timing for this goat-show...

they did indeed, but i'm not sure if that is internationally valid.
As I remember, that was primarily a deal with Germany, to deal with German tax-dodgers.

http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,723637,00.html

 

[JMBeaushrimp]

they did indeed, but i'm not sure if that is internationally valid.
As I remember, that was primarily a deal with Germany, to deal with German tax-dodgers.

http://www.manager-magazin.de/politik/deutschland/0,2828,723637,00.html

Oooo... Here's a good one:

http://www.efinancialnews.com/story/2010-05-24/swiss-banks-remain-confident-over-disclosure-rules

Some good quotes from the article:

The vote is expected to uphold and formalise an agreement between the US and Swiss bank UBS on handing over account information to American authorities.

In the summer of 2009, UBS agreed to disclose names and accounts of 4,450 wealthy Americans suspected of unpaid taxes, in return for suspension of American legal action.

Swiss private bankers also appear willing to give up banking secrecy for tax reasons

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This was all going down last summer, anyone know how the Swiss parliamentary vote went?

 

[dancing on pedals]

I was rushing out the door this morning when I posted that about Pantani - for the sake of brevity I surmised - apparently that wasn't clear enough for some. Here is the full quote:

"****acroia claims Vezzani, no longer an official member of the team, asked hIm to fight Marco's ban. The only avenue left open seemed to be that of finding a supportive, and influential, national politician." P. 228

yes but the point is - page 228 "but Marco never came"
I think one of the main points that Rendell makes that Pantani was in no mental state to cope with any of it
page 228/229 "two psychologists from an anti drug charity gave Marco 24 hour care to detoxify him"
although hiring many advisors Pantani took help from a charity (despite being worth around 23 million Euro -
sorry for being on a high horse!butI dont think Pantani is an example of what riders do when they are in trouble by 2002 he was in deep mental trouble.
thanks

 

[Digger]

yes but the point is - page 228 "but Marco never came"
I think one of the main points that Rendell makes that Pantani was in no mental state to cope with any of it
page 228/229 "two psychologists from an anti drug charity gave Marco 24 hour care to detoxify him"
although hiring many advisors Pantani took help from a charity (despite being worth around 23 million Euro -
sorry for being on a high horse!butI dont think Pantani is an example of what riders do when they are in trouble by 2002 he was in deep mental trouble.
thanks

Pantani and his mental state is not the issue, nor is this the right thread. My point, original one, was the correlation between Lance seeking political help, and Pantani's advisors seeking political help. The latter only sought this in an act of desperation when they knew the game was up - many would argue that Lance is approaching this state. That was my point. I believe it to be an interesting correlation.

 

[flicker]

Pantani and his mental state is not the issue, nor is this the right thread. My point, original one, was the correlation between Lance seeking political help, and Pantani's advisors seeking political help. The latter only sought this in an act of desperation when they knew the game was up - many would argue that Lance is approaching this state. That was my point. I believe it to be an interesting correlation.

What game are you speaking of? Corporate sponsorship? PED use in sports?

Why would Lance be desperate? Are you in contact with his Lordship?

Have sports suddenly become easy and fair?

 

[DirtyWorks]

Couple of related questions:

From an IRS angle, is it possible secret Swiss accounts have been used for payments? Payments to 2 entities spring to mind.

A: Ferrari. In the SCA testimony, he was evasive about what method he paid Ferrari. Have payments been declared on US soil?

B: UCI. Miracleboy has always tried to be evasive on the UCI payments, even denying at one time.

Would the IRS or Novitzky investigate to this depth.

cheers

If Wonderboy got good advice, he controls a company based in some other nation and then paid himself and Ferrari. That's not new or illegal and can sufficiently shield him. Expensive? Complicated? Yes. But we're talking good revenue and therefore lots of risk.

The question becomes how dumb was anyone involved with the payment transfers. I expect parts of the investigation will have answers as I see no bank/country willing to obfuscate inquiries over a couple of comparatively small-time cyclists.

 

[Oldman]

If Wonderboy got good advice, he controls a company based in some other nation and then paid himself and Ferrari. That's not new or illegal and can sufficiently shield him. Expensive? Complicated? Yes. But we're talking good revenue and therefore lots of risk.

The question becomes how dumb was anyone involved with the payment transfers. I expect parts of the investigation will have answers as I see no bank/country willing to obfuscate inquiries over a couple of comparatively small-time cyclists.

Think of a Russian rider talking via Twitter and thinking his hard drive leaves no trail. Multiply that by 10 years of sporting hubris and you've got plenty of evidence via wire fraud. The average IQ of bike racers has always been to number of chainrings X cogs.

 

[Digger]

What game are you speaking of? Corporate sponsorship? PED use in sports?

Why would Lance be desperate? Are you in contact with his Lordship?

Have sports suddenly become easy and fair?

Troll...........

 

[flicker]

Troll...........

So you guys really think that Uniballer, the H0g, and the Ukranian Kosack are the Axis of Evil, grifters, floating money all around the continent, more unnumbered accounts than Gaddafi+Manuel Noriega combined, Pallets of Actovin, EPO, Testesterone, and HGH, making deliveries bogging down the G-6?
I suppose LIVESTRONG is only the front for this International operation.

I hear the NSA has sattellites in geo syncroness orbit over the Kossacks pad in Lucca, the H0gs secret bunker in Zambia, and Lance fortress in Austin, and Jeffs got his crew sitting in a van somewhere with the headphones on......

Golly, I feel safer already.......

Soon the anti- Armstrong drones are going aloft......