Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Cloxxki]

To add to the list of crimes.
What about employing people under false permises?
Volunteers running his almost-non-promits endeavors, and some getting paid. All based on the idea that he was vicitm of cancer (rather than testosteron patch side-effects), and won his big races clean.

Without that, no-one would do a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g for him. Or marry him. Father his kids.
Oh, fictional autobiographies. Not unheard of, but bad for the publisher. And the author.

Wow, this list of crimes will be a book in itself, even without digging into any of it.

 

[spetsa]

My point was that LA has not been questioned by the Feds yet. So he can not be charged with that yet. Once he is sworn in and gives answers to questions then if he lies to the Feds then they can charge him for that.

What anyone else has done either told the truth or lied to the feds is on the persons who were questioned.

Why would anyone lie to the Feds unless they had a prison wish?

I understand that. But has LA already been questioned by a federal officer? Then has he been called in for questioning after given his rights? I do not think so. But you may have some information you would like to share that shows where he has been questioned?

How do you know that he hasn't been contacted by the investigators (in any manner). Sounds like maybe you are the one that thinks he/she has information that they wish they could share.

 

[spetsa]

sorry, I messed up trying to quote two posts

 

[Cimacoppi49]

Why would the target of a federal investigation talk to the feds?

He wouldn't if he had half a brain or good counsel. In fact, Armstrong's counsel has met with AUSA Doug Miller at least once. It was reported here, otherwise unconfirmed, that his counsel also met with the US Attorney General. His counsel has never commented publicly about what was discussed with the Justice Department.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

sorry, I messed up trying to quote two posts

You are forgiven, my son.

 

[thehog]

You are forgiven, my son.

Armstrong is fried. Floyd did a great job on him. Doesn't matter if the Feds push forward or not. Armstrong will forever be tarnished. He can't do any interviews without the big question being asked. These days he's just not going to answer it - not even in 5 years - he's way too scared.

Well done Floyd. You won.

 

[veganrob]

Don't know if it was ever asked or told but why was his highness not at Leadville?

 

[thehog]

Don't know if it was ever asked or told but why was his highness not at Leadville?

Afraid of getting spat on.

 

[MacRoadie]

Don't P!ss off the Feds...

While their investigation apparently began prior to the downgrading of US debt, it looks like the Justice Department has Standard and Poor's in their cross hairs with renewed interest and vigor.

The investigation began before Standard & Poor's cut the United States' AAA credit rating this month, but it's likely to add to the political firestorm created by the downgrade, the newspaper said. Some government officials have since questioned the agency's secretive process, its credibility and the competence of its analysts, claiming to have found an error in its debt calculations.

It doesn't pay to get on the wrong side of the Jusctice Department.

Standard & Poor's Facing Justice Department Probe Over Improper Mortgage Ratings

 

[MacRoadie]

Don't know if it was ever asked or told but why was his highness not at Leadville?

Better ask DaveStoller, according to him, Lance is all about the Tri awesomeness now (with a visit to Leadville):

Juan Pelota Rides Again

Juan's twitter feed went dark when all the sh#t hit the fan.
Since he is now back...I think we can assume Lance is going to be doing triathlons (since Juan is his nom de plume, or nom de guerre for tri), maybe Leadville and anything else he feels like.

I am guessing this means nothing is happening or is going to happen legally.
Things have gotten very quiet since he and his lawyers complained about leaks.

So now this is the official Lance:
1. Swimming thred

2. Chicago Marathon thread

3. Lance doing tri and training for Hawaii thread etc.

KONA 2012 BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go ahead...move it out of the clinic.
Nothing to see here hater-boys.
Lets move on...

 

[veganrob]

Afraid of getting spat on.

Or spat out?

 

[Deagol]

I would have loved to see Todd Wells beat LA in Leadville this year.

 

[Polish]

Armstrong is fried. Floyd did a great job on him. Doesn't matter if the Feds push forward or not. Armstrong will forever be tarnished.

Yes, it has been an effective smear campaign.
Lance has admitted that damage has been done.

But a smear campaign is analogous to hooking your hoods on a mussette bag.
It is another setback.
And Lance has had plenty of setbacks in his career.
ASDD ASDD...Another Setback, Different Day.

And how does Lance deal with setbacks?
He becomes more determined that's how.
File a motion to curb the smears....
Lazer like focus on Livestrong.....

He will recover from this smear campaign.
End up stronger as a matter of fact.
You know it is true. Must be a tad frustrating.
Serenity now. Serenity now. Serenity now.

 

[shawnrohrbach]

Yes, it has been an effective smear campaign.
Lance has admitted that damage has been done.

But a smear campaign is analogous to hooking your hoods on a mussette bag.
It is another setback.
And Lance has had plenty of setbacks in his career.
ASDD ASDD...Another Setback, Different Day.

And how does Lance deal with setbacks?
He becomes more determined that's how.
File a motion to curb the smears....
Lazer like focus on Livestrong.....

He will recover from this smear campaign.
End up stronger as a matter of fact.
You know it is true. Must be a tad frustrating.
Serenity now. Serenity now. Serenity now.

I had a friend many years ago who talked like this and even visited Jonestown, long before the cool aid incident, with the intent of joining. I think he ended up banging a tambourine in an airport somewhere.

 

[Polish]

I had a friend many years ago who talked like this and even visited Jonestown, long before the cool aid incident, with the intent of joining. I think he ended up banging a tambourine in an airport somewhere.

I take it that you feel that Lance will not rebound from the smears.
That's fine. Time will tell.

Anyway, I think it is interesting The Hog says the Feds might NOT take action.
That probably indicates that the indictments are looming lol.

 

[Velodude]

Yes, it has been an effective smear campaign.
Lance has admitted that damage has been done.

But a smear campaign is analogous to hooking your hoods on a mussette bag.
It is another setback.
And Lance has had plenty of setbacks in his career.
ASDD ASDD...Another Setback, Different Day.

And how does Lance deal with setbacks?
He becomes more determined that's how.
File a motion to curb the smears....
Lazer like focus on Livestrong.....

He will recover from this smear campaign.
End up stronger as a matter of fact.
You know it is true. Must be a tad frustrating.
Serenity now. Serenity now. Serenity now.

Smear campaign from an opposing group(s)?

Is there a swiftboating like campaign against LA that has gone under my radar that is known to the inner sanctum of Livestrong (and thereby Polish)?

Polish, can you speculate of the source and identity of these organised attacks?

The application of the word "campaign" by an alleged LA insider suggests the alleged attacks against LA are premeditated and organised.

Examples of an organised "smear campaign" , in contradiction, are the motives and use of a website named "facts4lance" to discredit potential witnesses.

Or, arranging for the major contributions to a defence fund tagged "Floyd Fairness Fund" with the sole sinister objective of financially supporting the discrediting the French lab that ran the 2005 scientific analysis on the 1999 TdF B samples.

BTW, I agree that LA will grow stronger after all this adversity has subsided. In the weights room of a Federal Penitentiary

 

[MacRoadie]

Anyway, I think it is interesting The Hog says the Feds might NOT take action.
That probably indicates that the indictments are looming lol.

FAIL

Armstrong is fried. Floyd did a great job on him. Doesn't matter if the Feds push forward or not. Armstrong will forever be tarnished. He can't do any interviews without the big question being asked. These days he's just not going to answer it - not even in 5 years - he's way too scared.

Well done Floyd. You won.

Had anyone other than you attempted to interpret that sentence as "the feds might NOT take action", it would have beggared belief and strained intelligence and logic...

 

[MD FACG FACP]

Don't know if it was ever asked or told but why was his highness not at Leadville?

Because Todd Wells was going to smoke his a$$ and he knew. Todd may have won last year too, but Levi took him out literally.

 

[Deagol]

Because Todd Wells was going to smoke his a$$ and he knew. Todd may have won last year too, but Levi took him out literally.

If that happened, couldn't Lance use his influence and have Todd kicked off the Specialized team ?

 

[veganrob]

Because Todd Wells was going to smoke his a$$ and he knew. Todd may have won last year too, but Levi took him out literally.

Attack of the Garden Gnome

 

[python]

While their investigation apparently began prior to the downgrading of US debt, it looks like the Justice Department has Standard and Poor's in their cross hairs with renewed interest and vigor.



It doesn't pay to get on the wrong side of the Jusctice Department.

Standard & Poor's Facing Justice Department Probe Over Improper Mortgage Ratings

sorry but i don't see how the justice ministry's concern about the s&p financial analysis conclusions relate to the armstrong/usps/discovery investigation.

if we lived in a totalitarian society, yeah, intimidation by a government agency has much weight and deserves many questions. But the us debt downgrade by the us-based credit rating company should be hailed as a victory of transiency and independence over murky deals.

why the justice ministry officials deserve any other approach in handling the texas affair ? what have i missed ? - a sincere question

 

[MacRoadie]

sorry but i don't see how the justice ministry's concern about the s&p financial analysis conclusions relate to the armstrong/usps/discovery investigation.

if we lived in a totalitarian society, yeah, intimidation by a government agency has much weight and deserves many questions. But the us debt downgrade by the us-based credit rating company should be hailed as a victory of transiency and independence over murky deals.

why the justice ministry officials deserve any other approach in handling the texas affair ? what have i missed ? - a sincere question

Just a point of clarification, and it's probably just semantics, but we don't have "ministries" in our government.

Anyway, my point was that although the investigation into S&P began months ago, the recent downgrade of US Government-backed securities (which the government has been EXTREMELY critical of) has brought a renewed interest in, and an apparent increase in effort, on the part of government investigators.

The point was not that the government acts in retaliatory fashion against perceived slights, but that any questionable behavior on the part of a person or entity already under investigation by the Feds can have the effect of renewed or invigorated scrutiny.

As an aside, the investigation into S&P relates to billions of dollars in toxic debt that was given the highest possible rating by S&P, ratings that allowed S&P subscribers (these banks pay the ratings companies to rate their portfolios) to reap huge profits. Further, there is apparently evidence that individuals within S&P actually rated many of the securities lower but were overridden by their superiors in order to maintain client relations.

If a government investigation into S&P results in the exposure of significant impropriety, then many other investment portfolios may be drawn into question, which could have an additive effect on our already precarious economy. Even in that light, the government is still willing to go after them.

 

[Cal_Joe]

......
Anyway, I think it is interesting The Hog says the Feds might NOT take action.
That probably indicates that the indictments are looming lol.

Ah Ha! The devious "reverse drum roll psychology"! Good God man, you have unmasked the cleverest posting tactics ever seen on the clinic! And to think all this time BaconBoy(TM) has been derided and abused, when he actually was trying to let us know that (through reverse drum roll psychology), based on ultra secret insider information, LA would never be indicted.

Hats off and free waffles to both of you. I stand in awe.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

I have it indirectly from a very reliable source connected to the Olympic movement that with certainty the truth is coming out in full as to Armstrong & Co.'s crimes--and doping is actually the least of it. Look for Hein Verbruggen and Pat to get slapped real hard in their respective heads. Apparently the grants of immunity have done the trick getting the core information from Lance's buddies in the peloton.

Merry Christmas, Lance.

 

[zigmeister]

Feds sure are taking a long time to get this indictment huh?

They had a good run with the 60 minutes story, then a few guys out publicly speaking, then the Feds and several stories planted around the globe in media outlets.

Yet, has all fizzled as expected.

Will keep checking back in here to see the final results, guess that means I will have to keep coming back for the next 3 yrs until the Feds finally just give it up.