Official Lance Armstrong Thread **READ POST #1 BEFORE POSTING**

[Race Radio]

Take a look at his diatribe of lies directed at Landis.
http://video.bicycling.com/video/ATOC-Johan-Bruyneel-addresses-a

That is a very rare video....perhaps the last video of Johan in the US without handcuffs. It is funny how Wonderboy's myth machine has tried to pretend there is no case, nothing is happening, there will be no charges.....Yet the Hog is too scared to come to the US.

So who is going to drive the White Bronco to Mexico? My money is on College

 

[mewmewmew13]

If the choice was between spitting up blood with cancer spreading in my brain and lungs or facing 20 Federal Indictments of the caliber facing Lance, I would choose the indictments of course.
Who wouldn't?

"Federal Indictments scary scary boo!"
Oh please. Lance has faced REAL fears.
Been real scared.

Federal Indictments are a joke in comparision.
You know that right?

the joke is he didn't have to be the kind of person that would ever have to face illegal acts and indictments.

Millions of people face cancer, some win some lose, but millions of cancer victims are kind nice folks who would never lower themselves to pulling the kind of s*** he has.

 

[MonsterCyclist]

A year ago I was denying that Lance doped?
Hmmm, I do not recall that....
I do not recall EVER denying that Lance doped.
Do you think Haliburton shot me with a "Forgetfullness" Raygun?
zap zap?

Maybe you could recommend a tinfoil maker so I can make a hat?
And don't say Alcoa lol.
They are in cahoots with Haliburton.
Their alu minium ENHANCES the effect yikes.

Anyway, YOU should realize by now that doping did not transform Lance.
That is as true today as it ever was. More evident today. Obvious.
Doping was just but one arrow in Lance's Quiver of Awesomeness.
Many arrows in that quiver. Doping was just one.
I can list all the attributes/arrows if you like....

I tend to agree with that. He may be a ****** but he is still a great of his era.

 

[Polish]

Take a look at his diatribe of lies directed at Landis.
http://video.bicycling.com/video/ATOC-Johan-Bruyneel-addresses-a

Diatribe of lies? Plural?
Name ONE lie in that video.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to give me just one of your predictions that was not wrong.

 

[Kretch]

So who is going to drive the White Bronco to Mexico? My money is on College[/QUOTE]

Excuse my ignorance, but who is College?

 

[Cimacoppi49]

I tend to agree with that. He may be a ****** but he is still a great of his era.

So was Indurain. If epo had been around a few years earlier he would likely have won seven or eight unless Delgado did the same. Point is, from Indurain on in the Tour, they were and are total frauds. They made the racing dull by their doping. It ceased to be the kind of drama the Jacques, Hinault, Merckxs gave us.

 

[Cimacoppi49]

So who is going to drive the White Bronco to Mexico? My money is on College

Excuse my ignorance, but who is College?[/QUOTE]

Ooh, ooh. Can I drive. Please. I won't make any wrong turns. Promise.

 

[Race Radio]

I tend to agree with that. He may be a ****** but he is still a great of his era.

And Bernie Madoff was a great of his....

 

[Velodude]

Diatribe of lies? Plural?
Name ONE lie in that video.

BTW, I'm still waiting for you to give me just one of your predictions that was not wrong.

"Floyd said it in court" (allegations against LA & JB).

Which court prior to May 2010 - the date of the video?

I cannot recall any allegations against LA by Floyd during his televised USADA tribunal hearing in California. LA and his cronies were the main benefactors of the Floyd Fairness Fund so Floyd would not have bitten the hands that were feeding him.

Likewise, it is highly improbable that Floyd would have threatened and black mailed LA & JB from 4 years prior (2006) when they would have been financially supporting him through the FFF from 2006 to 2009. Also there would not have been reason to threaten LA & JB until he had finished serving his suspension in early 2009. He immediately took up with the Ouch racing team after his suspension had been completed.

 

[Cloxxki]

Draw a horizontal line. Place 7 yellow dots on the left. Then after a small gap, a black one. That's when we are.

 

[Anonymous]

How long is a piece of string?

 

[Berzin]

Bob Roll doing a wonderful job nodding at Johan knowingly. He looks in love.

Bob Roll is just as complicit in the whole scam. I hope he gets indicted just for aiding and abetting the making of the contrived Armstrong myth.

He's not a journalist, he's a clown.

 

[mewmewmew13]

Does a chicken have lips?

 

[mewmewmew13]

btw I think Bob Roll has made a great living through his Lance love
--main source of income

 

[fatandfast]

Bob Roll is just as complicit in the whole scam. I hope he gets indicted just for aiding and abetting the making of the contrived Armstrong myth.

He's not a journalist, he's a clown.

you are more about forest fires. Roll is talking and making cake but all the people selling Treks, cell phones, water beer,cars, clothing, donations, apple juice, and many others are are not saying anything other than "Thank You!!". as they cash checks. Roll is hardly the problem his lips are around Levi's pipe and his dog collar wrist bracelets.
Nobody says anything if they are making money, it's only when they are not is when the belly aches come up. Each of Lance's possible executors is only vocal when the money is cut off. Roll plays a roll while he cashes checks, no myth just money. Nobody is bitter while they are funded, check the record. Lack of cash equals bad Lance almost automatic. Novitzky is watching, probably another reason the "fallers" are not yet witnesses.
*faller is a bike rider who becomes involved in accidents when the have no income. They go to a personal injury atty after creating an accident. Slip and fall only bike riding style. Hamilton and Landis's tax returns will tell a story. Income goes down, stories of Lance come up

 

[thehog]

Sorry mate but America has sobered up. Any ar5e these days taking a ride is going to get set on fire. I see in the streets. There's ill feeling out there. Roll & his terrible teeth will get spat out....

you are more about forest fires. Roll is talking and making cake but all the people selling Treks, cell phones, water beer,cars, clothing, donations, apple juice, and many others are are not saying anything other than "Thank You!!". as they cash checks. Roll is hardly the problem his lips are around Levi's pipe and his dog collar wrist bracelets.
Nobody says anything if they are making money, it's only when they are not is when the belly aches come up. Each of Lance's possible executors is only vocal when the money is cut off. Roll plays a roll while he cashes checks, no myth just money. Nobody is bitter while they are funded, check the record. Lack of cash equals bad Lance almost automatic. Novitzky is watching, probably another reason the "fallers" are not yet witnesses.
*faller is a bike rider who becomes involved in accidents when the have no income. They go to a personal injury atty after creating an accident. Slip and fall only bike riding style. Hamilton and Landis's tax returns will tell a story. Income goes down, stories of Lance come up

 

[thehog]

At some point, someone needs to ask LA and his idiot circle, "Wow, how do you guys account for having the worst possible judge of character when so many ex-employees, teammates, friends and associates turn against you? Did you just happen to align yourselves with so many pathological liars? How could that be?"

It's not a bad point. It's uncanny that Armstrong attracts so many liars as friends.

 

[DirtyWorks]

... all the people selling Treks, cell phones, water beer,cars, clothing, donations, apple juice, and many others are are not saying anything other than "Thank You!!". as they cash checks.

There's no proof of any of these claims.

I'm repeating myself, but the simple fact of the matter is road bike sales did not skyrocket because of Wonderboy. Trek sales did not skyrocket because of Wonderboy either. Trek was seeing the positive impact of going completely vertical, kind of like an Apple store. Volume was about the same, better revenue.

As for the other claims, the old adage for advertising spending is "Advertising works 50% of the time. Which 50% is working? Nobody knows."

 

[sniper]

At some point, someone needs to ask LA and his idiot circle, "Wow, how do you guys account for having the worst possible judge of character when so many ex-employees, teammates, friends and associates turn against you? Did you just happen to align yourselves with so many pathological liars? How could that be?"

indeed.
but while i can understand Armstrong accusing his opponents of being pathological liars (after all, he's simply trying to stay out of jail), I cannot comprehend that the TOP OF THE FRIGGIN UCI has uttered, and has been allowed to utter, the exact same accusations against all of Armstrong's opponents.
My christmass will be jolly if it sees McQuaid and Verbruggen begging for mercy in court.

 

[Neworld]

If the choice was between spitting up blood with cancer spreading in my brain and lungs or facing 20 Federal Indictments of the caliber facing Lance, I would choose the indictments of course.
Who wouldn't?

"Federal Indictments scary scary boo!"

Psychopaths aren't afraid of anything or anyone.

NW

 

[Neworld]

Don't forget sterile safety pins for doing the art work.

Hepatitis C is not your friend.

NW

 

[fatandfast]

There's no proof of any of these claims.

I'm repeating myself, but the simple fact of the matter is road bike sales did not skyrocket because of Wonderboy. Trek sales did not skyrocket because of Wonderboy either. Trek was seeing the positive impact of going completely vertical, kind of like an Apple store. Volume was about the same, better revenue.

As for the other claims, the old adage for advertising spending is "Advertising works 50% of the time. Which 50% is working? Nobody knows."

I feel like I am at a club meeting.
so the way it works for you is that Benetton should put the looms on high before a race. Target should stock the shelves as Franchitti rocks their logo. Do you think Mapei,Suanier Duval or Liquigas see products jump off the shelves after a good race? I can't guaranty that the relationship between Armstrong/Trek was a lucrative one but I am sure they know it was/is.
Branding my brother branding. Avis rent a car has had name association with the NY Yankees for 20+ years, I doubt they are looking for a direct link to sponsorship dollars. I have raced with guys that thought that our kits had some impact on land sales in S.Cal or Powerbars flying off the shelf.

I would love to see you at a meeting of Kelly Benefit Strategies, United Health Care or Team Type 1, what an eye opener. You may want to look a little deeper into the relationship that the sponsor is trying to gain rather than the one you perceive they want.
A more fun example for you to live is do a few races in Belgium where you sign up in a bar, the guy taking your money and license is 60 years old, fat and smoking a cigar. He hands you a race number while exhaling. The associations you assume are often times misplaced, while still others are subconscious by design.
Please call Skil-Shimano and asks them to count saws and router increases after Kittel's magical year

 

[MonsterCyclist]

And Bernie Madoff was a great of his....

Do you really think they're the same? You have to have serious talent to win the Tdf even doped. Yes they could have a better doctor (though I don't believe any of the other people Ferrari helped won the tour), but it still shows amazing consistency.

 

[Benotti69]

<nothing new>

very few sponsors/advertisers who sponsor cycling expect a return on their investment. they do it for the love of the sport.

Bicycle manufacturers and other related have no option but to sponsor bike races. It is an obvious target audience, but Mapei dont benefit from their association, neither does Farnese Vini. It is to do with the owner having the interest/love of the sport.

 

[Benotti69]

Do you really think they're the same? You have to have serious talent to win the Tdf even doped. Yes they could have a better doctor (though I don't believe any of the other people Ferrari helped won the tour), but it still shows amazing consistency.

Better do a search before mouthing off the well worn disproven argument that LA would've won the TdF because he had bags of talent. FAIL. He had bags of EPO. LA never was a GT winner before Ferarri's doping program.

No level playing field argument gonna work either.