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Granville57 said:
Good link. Thanks.

Man, he must be tired of answering those questions. :rolleyes:

The interviewer showed some spine, which was a bit refreshing.
I imagine LA will be getting some slightly tougher interviews soon.

Nah, they were softball questions from a 'friendly' source.

The Texas Tribune was co founded by John Thornton who also is on the board of Austin Ventures where he sits with Joe Aragona and used to sit with Jeff Garvey.

Both Joe & Jeff sit on the Board of the Lance Armstrong Foundation - of course they gain no income from this.

But Jeff Garvey and Joe Aragonas are named as 'members' on the accounts for LAs bike shop, Mellow Johnnys and Aragonas company NXSTEP GP are named on the Mellow Johnnys Aviation accounts.

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Noticing again that SI.com is several days behind on this general news. They've got to be sitting on something they want to publish but when? Mainstream US news is quiet as of 6pm West Coast time. Cycling is small time...
 
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Good fireworks show this morning....but it gets better. The Grand Finale is coming very soon. Wonderboy not going to be able to spin his way out of what comes next.

It's always about the money. :D

Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.
 
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Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.

Whistling in the dark doesn't work then the threats to your fraud of a hero are real. Switch sides now and avoid the Christmas rush.
 
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goober said:
Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.
Why would you describe something that hasn't even happened yet as a "fizzle"?
 
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Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.

Well you have been saying for months that nothing is going to happen, yet these investigations seem to be coming to a head, rather than "fizzling". Why are the investigations continuing if you knew months ago that they would not find any activities criminal in nature within their scope?

Maybe it's time to question your source, not RR's?
 
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Dr. Maserati said:
Nah, they were softball questions from a 'friendly' source.

The Texas Tribune was co founded by John Thornton who also is on the board of Austin Ventures where he sits with Joe Aragona and used to sit with Jeff Garvey.

Both Joe & Jeff sit on the Board of the Lance Armstrong Foundation - of course they gain no income from this.

But Jeff Garvey and Joe Aragonas are named as 'members' on the accounts for LAs bike shop, Mellow Johnnys and Aragonas company NXSTEP GP are named on the Mellow Johnnys Aviation accounts.
Man you looked those Fanc...tax LLC's up? WoW. That is why your a MD. Dedication.
 
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Ferminal said:
Well you have been saying for months that nothing is going to happen, yet these investigations seem to be coming to a head, rather than "fizzling". Why are the investigations continuing if you knew months ago that they would not find any activities criminal in nature within their scope?

Maybe it's time to question your source, not RR's?

Yeah it sure seems like something is about to happen. I guess we can wait for theHog or RR to let us know because the US media is dammmmmm stupid on the subject. They will not even report on the frozen swizzz bank account of Dr. F. ...
 
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The amounts involved are astounding though, what on earth could justify paying Ferrari, or "Schumi" as LA called him discretly (or so he thought), €15 million ?!

Thursday’s report in Gazzetta notes that U.S. and Italian investigators are currently examining a series of bank transfers and cash transactions totaling an estimated 15 million Euros.
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webvan said:
The amounts involved are astounding though, what on earth could justify paying Ferrari, or "Schumi" as LA called him discretly (or so he thought), €15 million ?!

(from VN)

Standard contract (a la Fuentes) = % of winnings.

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goober said:
Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.
Why don't you comment on your thoughts regarding the source of the article, that has now been picked up by major publications, that RR is referring to?
 
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The amounts involved are astounding though, what on earth could justify paying Ferrari, or "Schumi" as LA called him discretly (or so he thought), €15 million ?!
What's more stunning, if we examine the details, is that the article seems to imply that the 15 million is only a part of a particular series of transaction and the the total (which presumable would include other "series of transactions") is in the “tens of millions and maybe more.”

And that's just for a period of one year! :eek:

Sources close to the U.S. investigation recently told VeloNews that investigators have begun to focus on a years’ worth of secretive financial transactions involving “tens of millions and maybe more.”

Thursday’s report in Gazzetta notes that U.S. and Italian investigators are currently examining a series of bank transfers and cash transactions totaling an estimated 15 million Euros.
http://velonews.competitor.com/2011/04/news/u-s-and-italian-authorities-examine-armstrong-ferrari-ties_169668
 
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Granville57 said:
What's more stunning, if we examine the details, is that the article seems to imply that the 15 million is only a part of a particular series of transaction and the the total (which presumable would include other "series of transactions") is in the “tens of millions and maybe more.”

And that's just for a period of one year! :eek:

15 million euro is more than $USD20 million, hence tens of millions of dollars. I think they may be refering to the same amount here. Even so, it's an astonishing amount of money. I find it hard to believe that Gunderson paid all that, so other riders are probably involved.

It will be interesting to find out the year the transactions occured. If 08/09 then it explains Gunderson's hubris at his expectation of winning the 09 Tour at 37 years of age.
 
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Stingray34 said:
15 million euro is more than $USD20 million, hence tens of millions of dollars. I think they may be refering to the same amount here.
Ah. Gotcha. They didn't really specify the currency but given that they refer to U.S investigators...Well then, duh. :eek:

It will be interesting to find out the year the transactions occured. If 08/09 then it explains Gunderson's hubris at his expectation of winning the 09 Tour at 37 years of age.
This is what interests me most at this moment: The "when" of it all.
 
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goober said:
Fizzle is not a Grand Finale. I am interpreting "Wonderboy" is Lance? Your source (unless this is speculation) is so misinformed.

for the last year I have ben writing about tax evasion, Swiss bank accounts, and large payments to Ferrari....while you have babbled talking points with zero basis in reality.

to paraphrase Wonderboy "I like my creditablity"
 
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Ferminal said:
Well you have been saying for months that nothing is going to happen, yet these investigations seem to be coming to a head, rather than "fizzling". Why are the investigations continuing if you knew months ago that they would not find any activities criminal in nature within their scope?

Maybe it's time to question your source, not RR's?

Maybe :). I don't know RRs source - I am sure he has some good connections. I know sheit is going to happen but not to whom I think he is referring to as wonderboy - he is coming out unscathed...
 
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goober said:
Maybe :). I don't know RRs source - I am sure he has some good connections. I know sheit is going to happen but not to whom I think he is referring to as wonderboy - he is coming out unscathed...
there are certainly others that will be taken down....but no way lance, Ferrari's number 1 customer, escapes
 
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there are certainly others that will be taken down....but no way lance, Ferrari's number 1 customer, escapes

Forget about Novitsky, he had to sell a ton of Treks to come up with the 15M euros.:D

I'm thinking John Burke is beyond P.O.'d right now.
 
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Granville57 said:
What's more stunning, if we examine the details, is that the article seems to imply that the 15 million is only a part of a particular series of transaction and the the total (which presumable would include other "series of transactions") is in the “tens of millions and maybe more.”

And that's just for a period of one year! :eek:

I'm actually not sure if that quote you posted tells you that. "a years' worth" doesn't grammatically make sense. It is either "a year's worth" meaning one year or "years' worth" meaning multiple years. now I'm confused :cool:
 
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The problem Armstrong has is that even if he is not charged while others are, his massive use of drugs will still be revealed.
 
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Trailzz said:
I'm actually not sure if that quote you posted tells you that. "a years' worth" doesn't grammatically make sense. It is either "a year's worth" meaning one year or "years' worth" meaning multiple years. now I'm confused :cool:
Good point. Those pesky apostrophes are to blame—or the lack of correct usage, as it were.

Multiple years, involving tons of cash seems to make more sense.
But one peak year with outstandingly high transactions is more fun to think about. :D
 
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