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Cobblestoned said:
I might disagree with this.

It consisted of a quote by Snoop Doggie Dog, 3 lawyer jokes, and a question as to why it was deleted. None of it made the cut. It was said they were "off topic." If you are going to delete posts on THIS thread that are "off topic," quoting Apocalypse Now" it would be like "handing out speeding tickets at the Indianapolis 500." The thin thread that still exists of the original topic is pretty hard to find anywhere.
 
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How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?
 
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Mrs John Murphy said:
How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?

might be good practice if he does go inside :)
 
Mrs John Murphy said:
How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?

His toxicity index is going up and politicians are notoriously skittish about public alliances that could backfire...unless preceded by huge donations to their campaign.
 
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Mrs John Murphy said:
How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?

Not likely. He's been sucking up to politicians all to no effect. When politicians interfere with the work of the USDoJ, there can be, and usually is, hell to pay.
 
Cimacoppi49 said:
Not likely. He's been sucking up to politicians all to no effect. When politicians interfere with the work of the USDoJ, there can be, and usually is, hell to pay.

There is hell to pay. Look what happened to Iglesias, Ryan, Lam, Chiara, Bogden, Charlton, and McKay. Those US Attorneys tried to stay above politics . . ..
 
Mrs John Murphy said:
How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?

No one in politics has come to his defense to this point so I can't see it happening. There are way better horses to back. Ones they don't implode.

In terms of political donations. Armstrong is not even in the league to make a difference on that front. It would need to be 10m+
 
Mrs John Murphy said:
How vulnerable is the investigation to changes in government? For example say Perry were to win the 2012 election and put in a new AG - could they decide to abandon the investigation/prosecution?

Is the Uniballer's best hope to suck up to politicians?

Congress controls the budget law enforcement gets. Look for changes at the various committees in charge of funding the agencies for some effects. How it works would be a discussion about the congress critter having 'concerns about the direction' the agency is taking and then some discussion follows about replacing the investigations with something the congress critter likes. This can and does happen regardless of the political party in control.

I think it's too late though. The sudden participation of Wonderboy in political fund raising would be a red flag that there is a clear quid-pro-quo. It would have to be big money (10's of millions) like The Hog mentioned. Had he committed major dollars to politics early, it would have acted like an insurance policy.

Hog, you might recall a Republican? congress critter dropping Wonderboy's name using the sorry 'witch hunt that's a waste of taxpayer money' at a budgetary hearing with some agency head. It smelled bad then.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he walks.

DoJ is heavily politicized. Go back a few years now to the conservative litmus test Cheney used to hire attorneys for the DoJ. That willfully violated the supposed principles of Attorney selection. It totally violated the separation of enforcement from pure politics that's supposed to be present in our Republic.
 
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What is the Uniballer's relationship with Perry?

I notice that the Uniballer's supporters have been pushing what might be described as a 'Tea Bagger' line ie - all a waste of government money, the state should stay out of sport etc etc
 
thehog said:
No one in politics has come to his defense to this point so I can't see it happening. There are way better horses to back. Ones they don't implode.

In terms of political donations. Armstrong is not even in the league to make a difference on that front. It would need to be 10m+

Attempts at influencing the course of a federal investigation would not be public. Your failure to see them doesn't tend to indicate either the presence or absence of an attempt.

I haven't seen any evidence of an Armstrong implosion. He's taken a major PR hit and he's awaiting the outcome of a potentially devastating investigation, but except for the Aspen incident and some PR missteps, there hasn't been an implosion.
 
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DirtyWorks said:
Congress controls the budget law enforcement gets. Look for changes at the various committees in charge of funding the agencies for some effects. How it works would be a discussion about the congress critter having 'concerns about the direction' the agency is taking and then some discussion follows about replacing the investigations with something the congress critter likes. This can and does happen regardless of the political party in control.

I think it's too late though. The sudden participation of Wonderboy in political fund raising would be a red flag that there is a clear quid-pro-quo. It would have to be big money (10's of millions) like The Hog mentioned. Had he committed major dollars to politics early, it would have acted like an insurance policy.

Hog, you might recall a Republican? congress critter dropping Wonderboy's name using the sorry 'witch hunt that's a waste of taxpayer money' at a budgetary hearing with some agency head. It smelled bad then.

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if he walks.

DoJ is heavily politicized. Go back a few years now to the conservative litmus test Cheney used to hire attorneys for the DoJ. That willfully violated the supposed principles of Attorney selection. It totally violated the separation of enforcement from pure politics that's supposed to be present in our Republic.
And Cheney is legitimately worried about facing war crime charges into which that little litmus test could come back to haunt him in a damning way along with many other things.
 
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