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The crash caused by Cavendish. He wasn't involved but I've seen it in other sports before, when the guy who missed out appeals.Cance > TheRest said:
What on earth did Kennett do to get docked 20 points? I assume it was way worse than taking 3 other riders out..
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They didn't qualify for the team sprint.
It was a racing incident, happens at every level from weeknight track league to the Olympics. It was Cavendishs' fault but I don't think it was intentional and at the end of the day it made no difference to the medals.
Singer01 said:
They didn't qualify for the team sprint.
Gloin22 said:
It was a racing incident, happens at every level from weeknight track league to the Olympics. It was Cavendishs' fault but I don't think it was intentional and at the end of the day it made no difference to the medals.
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Should I not be fined for driving 200 km/h through a village if I injured no-one?
That's a total non-argument.King Boonen said:
Should I not be fined for driving 200 km/h through a village if I injured no-one?
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Thank you for the completely irrelevant comparison that has absolutely nothing to do with the incident being discussed.
It was a racing incident, end of. Anyone who has spent time watching track racing or racing themselves will have seen exactly the same move thousands of times.Crashes happen, get over it.
Jagartrott said:
Thank you for the completely irrelevant comparison that has absolutely nothing to do with the incident being discussed.
It was a racing incident, end of. Anyone who has spent time watching track racing or racing themselves will have seen exactly the same move thousands of times.Crashes happen, get over it.
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Kennett expended all his energy gaining the lap. The next time the pace was lifted he was dropped and eventually he gave up. The cameras showed him a couple of times but the commentators (in the UK at least) missed it.
luckyboy said:
Kennett expended all his energy gaining the lap. The next time the pace was lifted he was dropped and eventually he gave up. The cameras showed him a couple of times but the commentators (in the UK at least) missed it.
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Because BC screwed over the Women's sprint team by sending out B teams to some of the World Cups.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/02/jess-varnish-gb-coaches-rio-olympic-games-world-track-championships
Singer01 said:
Because BC screwed over the Women's sprint team by sending out B teams to some of the World Cups.
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/mar/02/jess-varnish-gb-coaches-rio-olympic-games-world-track-championships
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That's a non-argument. Penalties shouldn't be handed out on consequences, but on the action itself.
PS: I do watch a lot of track cycling, actually. I thought this incident deserved more than a warning.
Part of your argument was that 'it made no difference to the medals'.King Boonen said:
That's a non-argument. Penalties shouldn't be handed out on consequences, but on the action itself.
PS: I do watch a lot of track cycling, actually. I thought this incident deserved more than a warning.
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Actually no, my argument was that it wasn't intentional and was a racing incident, the second half of the sentence was just to say that it had no effect on the medals so in the end the it was irrelevant. As has been discussed in the other thread, causing a crash intentionally like that would be a massive risk on the riders part, taking out the 14th(?) placed rider in the race would be pointless when you're fighting for a medal and the neutralisation of the race hurt Cavendishs' chances.
I do too and I've seen exactly the same move in pretty much every single points race I can remember. I don't think it deserved more than a warning, that sets a dangerous precedent and would mean constant DQ's, including one for Viviani in the same race I think, because as you rightly point out:
Jagartrott said:
Actually no, my argument was that it wasn't intentional and was a racing incident, the second half of the sentence was just to say that it had no effect on the medals so in the end the it was irrelevant. As has been discussed in the other thread, causing a crash intentionally like that would be a massive risk on the riders part, taking out the 14th(?) placed rider in the race would be pointless when you're fighting for a medal and the neutralisation of the race hurt Cavendishs' chances.
I do too and I've seen exactly the same move in pretty much every single points race I can remember. I don't think it deserved more than a warning, that sets a dangerous precedent and would mean constant DQ's, including one for Viviani in the same race I think, because as you rightly point out:
I agree with most that a DQ would be too harsh. A warning seems about right, on current rules. Particularly given that I think Cueff didn't even get that (that should've been a DQ).
But I do think there should be some kind of penalty in between a warning and an outright DQ. Points docked and a monetary fine for stupid/irresponsible moves. Even though they would inevitably only come to play when there are consequences to said actions.
But I do think there should be some kind of penalty in between a warning and an outright DQ. Points docked and a monetary fine for stupid/irresponsible moves. Even though they would inevitably only come to play when there are consequences to said actions.
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Had it not been for the chaos created by Cavendish mowing down the Korean and Viviani, Gaviria would never have been allowed to break free and lap the others. It was his luck, actuallyBrullnux said:
Hats off to Amalie Diedriksen in that points race. Far and away the most entertaining and aggressive rider.
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Yes, but the derny bike came off a little late... dunno what the ruling should be really.
Red Rick said:
Yes, but the derny bike came off a little late... dunno what the ruling should be really.
Well if the rules say you can't overtake the durney at all when it's still outside the cote d'azur or if thats only till a certain point.
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