buckle said:luckyboy said:Another name to add to the pile of retest positives - Evgeniia Kolodko, who loses a shotput silver from 2012.
46 athletes from 98 named so far.
Nearly all from ex-Soviet countries - 22 Russians, 5 Kazakhs, 4 Azeris, 4 Belorussians, 4 Turks, 3 Armenians, 2 Moldovans, 1 each from Georgia, Ukraine.
30 of the named are weightlifters.
A lot of the positives have been for deydrochlormethyltestosterone, otherwise known as Oral-Turinabol - the drug all the athletes in the East German doping program were given. Seems notable - would think that there would be something more effective than drugs that were used so long ago.
Kolodko tested positive for this, and also ipamorelin - a growth hormone-stimulating peptide which I hadn't heard of before..
They are only catching ex-Soviet athletes? The testing and the retesting are both politicized. Apart from GB and the USA everyone else should go to the beach. No point in coming.
motty89 said:luckyboy said:lmao ITV report on how Bolt is so great. He eats yams and puts in "hard graft". It mentioned that 21/30 fastest 100m times were by dopers.
Conclusion: "Usain Bolt has probably saved the reputation of his sport"
I've just scanned through the top 100m times and it seems the only person not to test positive apart from bolt in the top 50 is maurice greene!
Benotti69 said:Paul Kimmage on Pat Hickey, now sitting in a Rio prison for touting.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rio-2016-olympics/paul-kimmage-how-did-pat-hickey-become-the-most-hated-man-in-irish-sport-34981713.html
There are many many Pat Hickeys in sport....
Bunyak said:The Rio police can't wait for this *** crime wave to leave town...Benotti69 said:Rio Police have issued arrest warrants for the passports of 5 OCI (Olympic Committee of Ireland) members including Vice President of OCI who also is President of the FAI, John Delaney. Ireland is a small nation but it is shining in the Olympic corruptions medal table.
Benotti69 said:Rio Police have issued arrest warrants for the passports of 5 OCI (Olympic Committee of Ireland) members including Vice President of OCI who also is President of the FAI, John Delaney. Ireland is a small nation but it is shining in the Olympic corruptions medal table.
AlbineVespuzzio said:Benotti69 said:Paul Kimmage on Pat Hickey, now sitting in a Rio prison for touting.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rio-2016-olympics/paul-kimmage-how-did-pat-hickey-become-the-most-hated-man-in-irish-sport-34981713.html
There are many many Pat Hickeys in sport....
I'm not sure this has been mentioned before, but Hickey was one of the most vocal sportsperson speaking against Russia's ban. It' quite understandable he would be targeted for some minor offense. There's even footage circulating of the poor old man being arrested at home in his pijamas. The message is quite clear: don't speak out against the new zeitgeist in sport, or else...
AlbineVespuzzio said:whatever the reason was, he was vocal about it, that is the point.
Talking against Russia ban -> arrested for minor offense, with footage in robe divulged to the world.
gooner said:AlbineVespuzzio said:whatever the reason was, he was vocal about it, that is the point.
Talking against Russia ban -> arrested for minor offense, with footage in robe divulged to the world.
He was vocal about it for that very reason. It's an important point. There isn't a long list of cities that were willing to host his European Games. It is basically Russia and that's it at the moment.
Hickey didn't exactly support Yuliya Stepanova either as Kimmage pointed out.
Kimmage doesn't look particularly sharp. If he missed the most important conclusion from all of this, he certainly isn't. And it's not about Stepanova, it's about IAAF and what they did.Hickey didn't exactly support Yuliya Stepanova either as Kimmage pointed out.
It is a minor offense. Nobody gives a damn about touting, nobody ever will. It always happened and it always will, without consequence. I'm sure that Mallon dude and that Delaney dude are just innocent standbys that had to be sacrificed: Hickey couldn't be arrested without his co-conspirators, right?This isn't a minor offense either and Kevin Mallon was arrested first a while back in relation to this. It has led on to Hickey and now to Delaney who is a big name to be targeted in this. He has never said anything about Russia.
jens_attacks said:No one takes the retests seriously i hope
Of course, the soviets are bad...fucc y'all
Lets wait till he actually loses the medal. These organisations have a history of doing everything possible to help their favourites.El Pistolero said:jens_attacks said:No one takes the retests seriously i hope
Of course, the soviets are bad...fucc y'all
Or the ex-Soviets are just worse at doping and thus get caught more frequently.
Nesta Carter tested positive at the 2008 Olympics and he was part of the 4 x 100 m relay team, so if the rules are followed the most famous athlete in track & field, Usain Bolt, will lose a gold medal.
If your conspiracy theory was true then they surely would have protected Usain Bolt's gold medal.
AlbineVespuzzio said:gooner said:AlbineVespuzzio said:whatever the reason was, he was vocal about it, that is the point.
Talking against Russia ban -> arrested for minor offense, with footage in robe divulged to the world.
He was vocal about it for that very reason. It's an important point. There isn't a long list of cities that were willing to host his European Games. It is basically Russia and that's it at the moment.
Hickey didn't exactly support Yuliya Stepanova either as Kimmage pointed out.
the reason he was vocal against the ban is not important. It's irrelevant.
Or else, explain the relevance of it to the point I made: speak against -> prison and embarrassment before the world.
Kimmage doesn't look particularly sharp. If he missed the most important conclusion from all of this, he certainly isn't. And it's not about Stepanova, it's about IAAF and what they did.Hickey didn't exactly support Yuliya Stepanova either as Kimmage pointed out.
It is a minor offense. Nobody gives a damn about touting, nobody ever will. It always happened and it always will, without consequence. I'm sure that Mallon dude and that Delaney dude are just innocent standbys that had to be sacrificed: Hickey couldn't be arrested without his co-conspirators, right?This isn't a minor offense either and Kevin Mallon was arrested first a while back in relation to this. It has led on to Hickey and now to Delaney who is a big name to be targeted in this. He has never said anything about Russia.
Or else, show me footage of them being arrested in their undies.
ebandit said:..semenya/bolt may be compared....both won without truly extending themselves
however issue with semenya is obvious....bolt...less so
Mark L
Benotti69 said:Kimmage was writing for an Irish audience. IAAF not of much interest to Irish readers. Where are the British papers talking about Coe, Reedie and Farah?
Benotti69 said:ebandit said:..semenya/bolt may be compared....both won without truly extending themselves
however issue with semenya is obvious....bolt...less so
Mark L
What issue is there with Semenya? Was she not born with high levels of ability?
Whereas Bolt has to dope to get high levels of ability.
Why is Semenya the problem?
Seems to me this is all arseways. An athlete with born ability is persecuted but those who dope hugely are protected. Yep that is modern sport.
The Hitch said:Saw the Caster Semenya performances the media was whinging about. Don't see how that was anymore ridiculous than several other **** I've seen this olympics or many others. It was nowhere near as ridiculous as Radcliffe and Bolt for example, nor that 400m this year.
Benotti69 said:ebandit said:..semenya/bolt may be compared....both won without truly extending themselves
however issue with semenya is obvious....bolt...less so
Mark L
What issue is there with Semenya? Was she not born with high levels of ability?
Whereas Bolt has to dope to get high levels of ability.
Why is Semenya the problem?
Seems to me this is all arseways. An athlete with born ability is persecuted but those who dope hugely are protected. Yep that is modern sport.
“One woman, born with the biological equivalent of a turbocharger, is now being allowed to ‘compete’ against the 99 per cent of women who have no such advantage.’’
Cannibal72 said:Benotti69 said:ebandit said:..semenya/bolt may be compared....both won without truly extending themselves
however issue with semenya is obvious....bolt...less so
Mark L
What issue is there with Semenya? Was she not born with high levels of ability?
Whereas Bolt has to dope to get high levels of ability.
Why is Semenya the problem?
Seems to me this is all arseways. An athlete with born ability is persecuted but those who dope hugely are protected. Yep that is modern sport.
I'm with you on this. Malcolm Gladwell, a pseudo-intellectual pompous shallow-thinking 'writer' whose ideas have now permeated the discourse of sports, parroted by writers like Syed, was quoted in the New Yorker as saying
“One woman, born with the biological equivalent of a turbocharger, is now being allowed to ‘compete’ against the 99 per cent of women who have no such advantage.’’
Well, yeah. That's literally the point. 99% of women aren't good enough to compete in the Olympics. Most people don't have large lungs, or long legs, or athletic talent. You can't ban people just for being too good.