Olympics Doping Thread

[Robert5091]

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/olympic...gs-furore-grows-stronger-20160810-gqp9pd.html
Aussie media's take on doping,
"It's being characterised as the Cold War recast. America against China. America against Russia. Throw in a Hungarian swimmer under grave suspicion, introduce in an Australian unafraid to brand a rival a drug cheat, and a western-eastern bloc picture distils.

After only three full days of competition in Rio, journalists from around the globe were peppering the International Olympic Committee with questions. The topic: one of sport's stinkiest, with a stench that seems to become more pronounced here by the day.

Modern Olympic protocol dictates the top five place-getters in every final are drug tested. Another two competitors are also selected at random.

All of these samples are kept for 10 years, available for re-testing.

This system, Adams (IOC communications chief, Mark Adams) pointed out on Tuesday morning, has seen 98 competitors from the last two Olympics test positive retrospectively and in many cases — according to the IOC chief — banned from Rio.

By Tuesday afternoon the IOC announced four more.

 

[Robert5091]

http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37029833
Even the water is full of ... ummm ... something!
Confusion abounded at the Maria Lenk Aquatics Centre as the normally azure pool water turned a swampy green for the women's synchronised 10m platform final.
Once competition was over, organisers released a statement to say that they were still investigating the cause of what was being described on social media as "pool gate".
(Antibiotics might be advisable!)

 

[Blakeslee]

How can they show this evidence then?

I would like to see swimmers call for more frequent testing and harsher penalties, along with being transparent about the number of times (and types of tests) they are tested per year. The U.S. broadcast has repeatedly pointed out swimmers who have tested positive multiple times, serving bans as short as three months. I would like to see swimmers call for the adoption of what cycling is currently using for penalties (4 years for a first offense and a lifetime ban for a second offense). It is ridiculous that swimmers with multiple violations are still being allowed to compete.

 

[littlepinky]

This is too funny. Responding to his brother Tomasz having tested positive for nandrolone, the Polish weightlifter Adrian Zielinski said, among other things [my translation]: "We were tested on a weekly basis before leaving for Rio [...] The Polish anti-doping lab is considered to be one of the best in the world...It has the best testing equipment, so the opinion in the weightlifting world is that if you pass the doping control in Poland, you can enter any competition in the world, because you are clean. He doesn't seem to realize the irony of his statement. Poland seem to be behind not only on new doping methods (nandrolone?!?!), but also on the PR control of things... BTW Adrian Zielinski is also competing and says he hasn't been tested yet in Rio. Not keeping my fingers crossed for a negative result...

 

[buckle]

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http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/37029833
Even the water is full of ... ummm ... something!
Confusion abounded at the Maria Lenk Aquatics Centre as the normally azure pool water turned a swampy green for the women's synchronised 10m platform final.
Once competition was over, organisers released a statement to say that they were still investigating the cause of what was being described on social media as "pool gate".
(Antibiotics might be advisable!)

Purple I can understand.

 

[Benotti69]

IOC defends testing protocol as stench of drugs furore grows stronger

://www.theage.com.au/sport/olympics/rio-2016/olympics-off-the-field/ioc-defends-testing-protocol-as-stench-of-drugs-furore-grows-stronger-20160810-gqp9pd.html

 

[Nellyspania]

Djokovic out in the first round and now Serena also knocked out really early with 6-4,6-3.
Perhaps they are cautious and laying of the sauce, because it is more tests at the Olympics than the Grand Slams?

It hasn't stopped SW before but ND's exit here and Wimbledon suggests he is back eating pastries.

Must have taken a supplement inadvertently contaminated with gluten

 

[Catwhoorg]

Djokovic out in the first round and now Serena also knocked out really early with 6-4,6-3.
Perhaps they are cautious and laying of the sauce, because it is more tests at the Olympics than the Grand Slams?

It hasn't stopped SW before but ND's exit here and Wimbledon suggests he is back eating pastries.

Must have taken a supplement inadvertently contaminated with gluten

I laughed.

 

[TMP402]

Kristin Armstrong wins ITT gold a day before turning 43.

 

[Benotti69]

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Kristin Armstrong wins ITT gold a day before turning 43.

And a bleeding nose all the way round!!!

 

[bikinggirl]

Today Kristin Armstrong wins the TT gold medal and again an American rider is ruin everything for everybody else. Of course she is doped..this is so crazy...Like her name brother. Disgusting!!!!

 

[Billie]

Didn't Zabelinskaya serve a suspension?

 

[Catwhoorg]

Yes 18 months.
Some sort of stimulant or fat burner IIRC.

CAS overturned her ban from the games as it went against natural justice of being punished twice for the same incident.

 

[littlepinky]

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This is too funny. Responding to his brother Tomasz having tested positive for nandrolone [...] BTW Adrian Zielinski is also competing and says he hasn't been tested yet in Rio. Not keeping my fingers crossed for a negative result...

Aaaaand Adrian, one of the favourites in the 94 kg category, has reportedly been notified of an adverse analytical finding in his case as well. Yesterday he said he was "down on the floor, weeping for the injustice to his brother", calling Brasil "a third-world country". Now I think we have a more plausible explanation for his despair.

 

[BullsFan22]

A fair interview with Pendleton:

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/pendleton-some-organisations-brainwash-their-athletes-into-doping/

 

[Catwhoorg]

David Millar ‏@millarmind 4m4 minutes ago

GO GO GO FABIAN!


One doper cheering another.

 

[Saint Unix]

Glorious and hilarious ride from Luigi there.

 

[meat puppet]

Out with a bang.

I mean ffs, two retirees win Olympic tempos.

 

[BullsFan22]

I like Cancellara, and he's shown his entire career what a great rider he is and that he can cope under pressure, but after having very little form to speak of, apart from showing himself at the front of the peloton for a few hundred meters to help chase breakaways, to now destroying Dumoulin (that wrist must not have been that bad, eh?) and Froome? He really went all out in his last Olympic race, at age 35. Though he's a baby compared to Armstrong!!

 

[MacBAir]

I like Cancellara, and he's shown his entire career what a great rider he is and that he can cope under pressure, but after having very little form to speak of, apart from showing himself at the front of the peloton for a few hundred meters to help chase breakaways, to now destroying Dumoulin (that wrist must not have been that bad, eh?) and Froome? He really went all out in his last Olympic race, at age 35. Though he's a baby compared to Armstrong!!

So should we ignore his early season form before his fall, and that after said fall, it was all for today?

During his career, if be focused on a specific TT even during many months, no one (or Tom on Fabian's later years) was even close.

I'm not saying he doesn't dope, I'm just saying that today was normal.

 

[Nick C.]

Has anyone come out and said something to the effect of cupping "ehh no way, and besides if you are willing to do that to yourself what else are you going to be doing that doesn't leave a visible scar"

2-are there broadcasts and articles where non-English speakers are interviewed and what are they saying?

 

[BullsFan22]

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Has anyone come out and said something to the effect of cupping "ehh no way, and besides if you are willing to do that to yourself what else are you going to be doing that doesn't leave a visible scar"

2-are there broadcasts and articles where non-English speakers are interviewed and what are they saying?

The whole cupping thing is still confusing the heck out of me. It must help them if they are willing to go through all of that. All things aside, how is that not considered performance enhancing? Or is it placebo?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re:

Today Kristin Armstrong wins the TT gold medal and again an American rider is ruin everything for everybody else. Of course she is doped..this is so crazy...Like her name brother. Disgusting!!!!

Yup leave up the the Merikans to dirty up and ruin a clean sport like cycling.

 

[Semper Fidelis]

Re:

Out with a bang.

I mean ffs, two retirees win Olympic tempos.

Same as it ever was.

 

[Catwhoorg]

Re: Re:

Has anyone come out and said something to the effect of cupping "ehh no way, and besides if you are willing to do that to yourself what else are you going to be doing that doesn't leave a visible scar"

2-are there broadcasts and articles where non-English speakers are interviewed and what are they saying?

The whole cupping thing is still confusing the heck out of me. It must help them if they are willing to go through all of that. All things aside, how is that not considered performance enhancing? Or is it placebo?

There is no good and reliable evidence of efficacy for any condition.
So yes placebo.