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djpbaltimore

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Benotti69 said:
The Dutch Swimmer who whinged about Michelel Smith beating her obviously had no mirrors in her life as we could clearly see the steroid abuse in her.

FINA are as bad as any federation for their attitude to doping.

Lilly King is supposedly clean beating dopers. I don't think so.
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If King is not clean, she is being hypocritical. But at the same time, she also had harsh words for her fellow American in Gatlin. Being caught for cheating puts you in a different category of cheating. It would be quite a bit different if she was calling out a Russian athlete who was not previously banned. Personally, I think that drug bans should be permanent for the purposes of competing in the Olympics.
 
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Alright, here's a potentially good way of seeing what can happen in a relatively short span of time. Let's take a look at Victoria Andreeva from Russia. She is entered in a number of events at Rio. She was part of the Russian relay that competed in the 4x100 freestyle, but didn't make the final. She is currently competing in the 200m individual medley. She was the last one to make it into the semis (16th place and .04 better than 17th!). Then she barely made it out of the semis, finishing 5th. Not surprisingly, she is seeded last and in lane 8. She isn't a million miles out of the top spot, but barely making it into the semis, and again into the final, if she makes it onto the podium, then we can safely say she is onto something.

Pay attention to that race tonight. If she medals, it will be a major upset, judging her current form.
 
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Oh, and did she mention Efimovas been training for several years in the US, and her American coach trained 5 American swimmers to medals at the last olympics?

The whole affair stinks, just like the whole of the Olympics, so excuse me if some of us don't fall over fawning to her, or any other athletes who do the strong talking BS on doping.
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You'll have to try a bit harder, the strawman just isn't going to cut it.

Any of those 5 test positive recently?
 
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rata de sentina

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I don't know if anyone posted these, but IOC wants the doping talk to stop.
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I don't get that from those stories at all. I thought the IOC spokespersons comments were pretty bland. They're not trying to put a lid on it at all, they wouldn't dare since they are the architects of this situation.
 
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rata de sentina said:
mjreck said:
Oh, and did she mention Efimovas been training for several years in the US, and her American coach trained 5 American swimmers to medals at the last olympics?

The whole affair stinks, just like the whole of the Olympics, so excuse me if some of us don't fall over fawning to her, or any other athletes who do the strong talking BS on doping.
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You'll have to try a bit harder, the strawman just isn't going to cut it.

Any of those 5 test positive recently?
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Haven't a clue. I was literally 5 minutes on Google, that was about the sum of my research! And I'm not trying to build a strawman, simply showing that a quick look on any search engine and already a link between Efimovas trainer and the American team pops up. So I'm kinda wondering, if any journalist looks into it with some effort, what might pop up? Maybe something, probably nothing.

Either way, my view on these games at this stage is pretty much the same as Paul Kimmage; I don't care. It's looking like to podium in most events, you've got to be on the juice, so why would I care, right? Then again, I still follow cycling, so maybe in a few years I'll come back around to it :D
 
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Australia lodges complaint about early morning knocks at door from drug testers.

Probably upset about it because they were up all night shouting about Chinese doping.....:D

A clean sporting nation would be welcoming tests and testers, wouldn't they?
 
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Catwhoorg was talking about that Irish boxer

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rio-2016-olympics/irish-boxer-michael-oreilly-out-of-olympics-after-he-admits-taking-supplement-that-may-have-contained-a-banned-substance-34952153.html

Michael O'Reilly, the Irish middleweight boxer who tested positive for a banned substance on the eve of the Olympic Games, has admitted that he may have unintentionally taken a supplement that may have contained a banned substance, it is being reported this evening.
 
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Catwhoorg said:
Catwhoorg said:
As I said on twitter

Get the contaminated supplement defense boilerplate press releases ready.
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Nailed it!
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Yes, I was watching this earlier. Released straight to RTE.

No name of the substance mentioned.
 
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gooner said:
Catwhoorg said:
Catwhoorg said:
As I said on twitter

Get the contaminated supplement defense boilerplate press releases ready.
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Nailed it!
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Yes, I was watching this earlier. Released straight to RTE.

No name of the substance mentioned.
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"....ahh it was just a bit of epo, for a headache like, sure I wouldn't know anything about that kind of thing, I thought it was only paracetamol, honest mistake lads..."
 
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Alex Simmons/RST

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Benotti69 said:
Australia lodges complaint about early morning knocks at door from drug testers.

Probably upset about it because they were up all night shouting about Chinese doping.....:D

A clean sporting nation would be welcoming tests and testers, wouldn't they?
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Yeah that was pretty lame of them.
 
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Benotti69 said:
Australia lodges complaint about early morning knocks at door from drug testers.

Probably upset about it because they were up all night shouting about Chinese doping.....:D

A clean sporting nation would be welcoming tests and testers, wouldn't they?
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It's pretty pathetic. If we're going to call out other nations for doping, we should welcome testing, even if it is an inconvenience to wake up athletes that competed late into the night. The news over here was indignant because McEvoy's had 9 drug tests in a year.
 
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mjreck said:
gooner said:
Catwhoorg said:
Catwhoorg said:
As I said on twitter

Get the contaminated supplement defense boilerplate press releases ready.
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Nailed it!
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Yes, I was watching this earlier. Released straight to RTE.

No name of the substance mentioned.
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"....ahh it was just a bit of epo, for a headache like, sure I wouldn't know anything about that kind of thing, I thought it was only paracetamol, honest mistake lads..."
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"This guy that is an acquintance of somebody I know dropped of a brown package with something they said was good for me, happens all the time but this time it was contaminated. I'm usually quite careful with stuff like that but I must have tripped and planted my face in it. Apparently some of it got into my mouth."
 
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Djokovic out in the first round and now Serena also knocked out really early with 6-4,6-3.
Perhaps they are cautious and laying of the sauce, because it is more tests at the Olympics than the Grand Slams? :D
 
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Firstly, my comments have a large element of tongue in cheek.

I don't see how calling out a doper helps any sport, when the press take it as an opportunity to run the old chestnut of cold war headlines, you know those damn commies from the Soviet Union and China blah blah *** *** ***...and do not take a serious look at the problem.

I commented before that the athletes like us have opinions do I agree with what they are saying and doing, well no not really.

Only the french swimmer has made a comment that I went, huh! - his comment was that there are at least 2-3 swimmers in each final that are doping, but the world press haven't picked up on this, maybe cause he didn't say it was all the Chinese or all the Russians. And his comment about Sun peeing purple was pretty funny I have to give him that.

If anyone wanted real change they would be saying that the rules around doping need to be changed and so on an so forth. And that isn't what I am hearing, what I am hearing is a whole lot of Good and Evil ***....

I should add this is after I saw the headlines of the news papers in Australia, the are playing up the whole thing...
 
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BullsFan22

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Kuznetsova saying that there was a lot of negative cheering against her during her tennis match against Johanna Konta (an Aussie of Hungarian origin, competing for GB). She says she saw and heard it at other places too, most notably at the swimming pool.
 
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Jaco0505 said:
Djokovic out in the first round and now Serena also knocked out really early with 6-4,6-3.
Perhaps they are cautious and laying of the sauce, because it is more tests at the Olympics than the Grand Slams? :D
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It hasn't stopped SW before but ND's exit here and Wimbledon suggests he is back eating pastries.
 
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