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auscyclefan94 said:
People, i wasn't trying to bash him at all or have a go at him but i was taking the mickey out of him. I found it funny that he was in a ketchup suit.

this is one of those threads that you start and within an hour wish it would just fall of the front page and be forgotten..

dont worry.. we all have them... this is yours..

and its mustard.. ;)
 
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Timmy-loves-Rabo said:
i've put photos up off me as a nun , red power ranger on facebook in the past, why be ashamed of having a good time... don't care if others judge.
i wanna see the nun.. :D

im an elf and my wifes an angel.. :D there we are... i dont care what you all think.. :D
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was a fundraising night to raise money for a hospice that cared for a now gone freind..
 
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In fairness to auscyclefan, I think he only posted that photo for a bit of fun. People are wrongly assuming that he did it in a negative manner and that he was having a go at LA

It's the off season, a bit of fun with some photos is just that, a bit of fun. It's a funny photo and I think people are jumping all over auscyclefan like he did something bad...

By the way, nice photo Dimspace!! I thought you were actually a lightbulb with eyes like in your display pic :p
 
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Thanks for that... I won't be able to Lance next year without seeing a mustard flavoured condom on a bike!

That just so didn't look a like a bottle to me.
 
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dimspace said:
i wanna see the nun.. :D

im an elf and my wifes an angel.. :D there we are... i dont care what you all think.. :D
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was a fundraising night to raise money for a hospice that cared for a now gone freind..

Great shot. I hope that guy behind your angel was cut off by the barkeep.

I thought the parents as condiments to the baby's hot dog was kind of funny. Sure he looked goofy, but I love acting goofy around my kids too.

No harm done aus/94, you are right that it is a funny photo.
 
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Dim: I was glad to see ur head isn't shaped like a bulb. But ur ears look mighty strange just the same.
 
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Great shot. I hope that guy behind your angel was cut off by the barkeep.

I thought the parents as condiments to the baby's hot dog was kind of funny. Sure he looked goofy, but I love acting goofy around my kids too.

No harm done aus/94, you are right that it is a funny photo.

That guy in the background should be put away for a long, long time. He is surely guilty of something.
 
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dimspace said:
if i had kids, and we had dressed up for halloween and there was a photo, then yes, i probably would put it on twitter, and facebook, and maybe even myspace.. i might possibly even create a halloween thread on here and post it there too...

so he took his kids out for halloween, unlike some fathers who sat on their fat arses and let their kids play playstation, or went to the pub while the kids roamed the streets on their own...

good luck for him having the balls to put it on twitter to be honest.. some famous people might be afraid that they might look stupid.. obviously proud of his kids

although no doubt some will claim its jsut a devious stunt to come across as the wholesome american family guy... :confused:

I'll clear it up for you and probably get flamed in the process.

Lance was pretending to play happy family. Note Kristin's absence. If Lance didn't pay the bills he wouldn't see the kids. He left cycling to play happy family (his own words at his retirement in 2005...spend time with kids). What did he achieve between then? I could list the ex-girl friends and non-gay male bonding with McConaughey and Gillenhaal but that would only serve to point out what he didn't do. Raise his children. The ex-wife gets that honour. Lance is the fancy dad with the cash and Bahamas holidays. Mum raises them every day, cooks the meals, takes them to school, does the ironing and washing, monitors the homework, etc. Lance gets the kids for the public sympathy appearance in France and the occasional visit. PR and photo opportunity.

I don't believe they are one big happy family. Look at his childhood. He hated all male authority figures. Anyone remember what he said mid Tour? That his son, Luke, did not understand why he rarely saw his father. If you buy into that PR bull then fine, but to meet my stringent approval first his children and ex-wife will have to come out and say he is a good father. Better yet dimspace, those dads whose kids are playing the PS3 are at least present, rather than galavanting around Europe twittering like rabid school girls about how evil some Spaniards are. Better than absent? Not a chance. A photo proves nothing other than they had clever costumes (it was a nice photo). I have my doubts with all that bike training, celebrity chasing and ego rubbing occupying 23 hours in a day that Lance has much time for anything other than a telephone call or quick twitter (apart from the holidays).
 
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Anne Geddes reb lodster is far superior to StrongArm.

Besides, none of Armstrong's neighbours like the ***. No candy for his rugrats.

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Galic Ho said:
I'll clear it up for you and probably get flamed in the process.

Lance was pretending to play happy family. Note Kristin's absence. If Lance didn't pay the bills he wouldn't see the kids. He left cycling to play happy family (his own words at his retirement in 2005...spend time with kids). What did he achieve between then? I could list the ex-girl friends and non-gay male bonding with McConaughey and Gillenhaal but that would only serve to point out what he didn't do. Raise his children. The ex-wife gets that honour. Lance is the fancy dad with the cash and Bahamas holidays. Mum raises them every day, cooks the meals, takes them to school, does the ironing and washing, monitors the homework, etc. Lance gets the kids for the public sympathy appearance in France and the occasional visit. PR and photo opportunity.

I don't believe they are one big happy family. Look at his childhood. He hated all male authority figures. Anyone remember what he said mid Tour? That his son, Luke, did not understand why he rarely saw his father. If you buy into that PR bull then fine, but to meet my stringent approval first his children and ex-wife will have to come out and say he is a good father. Better yet dimspace, those dads whose kids are playing the PS3 are at least present, rather than galavanting around Europe twittering like rabid school girls about how evil some Spaniards are. Better than absent? Not a chance. A photo proves nothing other than they had clever costumes (it was a nice photo). I have my doubts with all that bike training, celebrity chasing and ego rubbing occupying 23 hours in a day that Lance has much time for anything other than a telephone call or quick twitter (apart from the holidays).
Prance is building an empire. Like The Donald. But Prance is trying to beat Shawn Kemp's record of fathering children out of wedlock. All the chicks knocked up in Malibu and Austin will be sending alimony petitions and fathers day cards to the Pranceplex.
 
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Galic Ho said:
I'll clear it up for you and probably get flamed in the process. .

not flaming but you really have hit a whole new level of cynasism...

there are many lances, the arrogant sportsman, the ruthless businessman, the media savvy publicist, possibly even a cheat in the sporting arena...

there are many arrogant sportsman, in fact many of the best in history achieved because of it, because of the level of fear they put into opponents, many ruthless businessmen are lauded and respected, donald trump has worldwide fans and he puts lance firmly in the shame for shameless disrespect, many people exploit the media, many people dope, maybe lance is so hated by some because he has perfected all four...

But the one thing you cant manipulate deep down, is your love for your kids... its easy to say he uses the kids as a media tool, but really, you have to accept that whatever lances flaws, or strengths you have no idea of his love for his kids... Yeh sure hold it against him because his ex feeds them, takes them to school, does the day to day stuff... thats how it works, there are millions of broken families all over america, it happens, and on the whole the women bring them up, many of the kids never see their fathers, and if hes there to spend halloween with them well good on him.. if he stayed home, youd critise him, if he decided to go out to dinner with barbie you would slate him for not being with his kids... so hes with his kids and its blamed on a publicity stunt.. Hes like a million other fathers in america.. Hes ****ed up his marriage, loads do it, hes had girlfreinds, loads do it.. Hes NORMAL!!!!

My father left when i was 3.. thats 35 years ago... i have heard from him once in that time.. i know where he is, hes actually a fairly high official at a proffesional football club in this country.. he spent five years denying i was even his son despite the fact that i look exactly like him... Id LOVE it if he went out with me for halloween, even if it was for a publicity stunt...

You can critise lance for a lot of things, but you cant critisise him for this.. and you cant take away from his kids the sheer joy they would have had from spending a night dressed up going out trick or treating with their dad..

We all **** up sometimes, lance has, but would you rather he was like the millions of other fathers who have no contact with their kids?

"a cynic is worse than a sceptic.. their foundation is fear"
 
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no disrespect Dim, but dont think you are the best person to judge Armstrong's parenting, thru that prism.

Armstrong does manipulate his perception in the meeja. Twittering about picking the kids up from school?

I would like to know the sum on Armstrong picking his kids up from school prior to twittering, and now, the ratio of picking his kids up, and twittering about picking his kids up from school. Those two sums would be instructive.

Armstrong knows he needs a Jacki Onassis type wife for a political career. Girl next door with enough glamour, who can be cuckolded so he can go on his merry way and surpass Shawn Kemp's record.
 
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no disrespect Dim, but dont think you are the best person to judge Armstrong's parenting, thru that prism.

None of us can be a judge of what type of a parent any us of are. From LA's standpoint we only see the public part of the story. We don't have any true view into his relationship with his kids.
 
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L29205 said:
None of us can be a judge of what type of a parent any us of are. From LA's standpoint we only see the public part of the story. We don't have any true view into his relationship with his kids.

fully agree...

so im just as qualified, or as poorly qualified as the next man.. at least he has a part in their lives.. more than a lot of fathers..
 
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dimspace said:
fully agree...

so im just as qualified, or as poorly qualified as the next man.. at least he has a part in their lives.. more than a lot of fathers..

I meant to qualify that post, as it read extremely hypocritical. I did not add that caveat.

I stand by your pov as slanted, and I stand by Armstrong a a cynical ******* who is not to be admired, and the meeja do not hold the *** to account.
 
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im going to have a sherbert lemon and a cup of blackcurrant tea, and when i return im going to read that again and see if i understand it..:confused:
 
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dimspace said:
im going to have a sherbert lemon and a cup of blackcurrant tea, and when i return im going to read that again and see if i understand it..:confused:
my post. I meant my original post that you were replying to was on the surfance, manifestly hypocritical
 
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I don't understand where we, a bunch of cycling fans, get the nerve to judge whether a man is an adequate father and husband. Especially when most of our intel comes from the entertainment media. Very few Pulitzers have been awarded to People magazine journalists. I have no trouble when people observe LA's behaviour during a bike race and call him a douche. But judging things that happen behind closed doors, talking anonymously about a man's family, that is a clear case of reverse douchiness.
 
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dimspace said:
not flaming but you really have hit a whole new level of cynasism...

there are many lances, the arrogant sportsman, the ruthless businessman, the media savvy publicist, possibly even a cheat in the sporting arena...

there are many arrogant sportsman, in fact many of the best in history achieved because of it, because of the level of fear they put into opponents, many ruthless businessmen are lauded and respected, donald trump has worldwide fans and he puts lance firmly in the shame for shameless disrespect, many people exploit the media, many people dope, maybe lance is so hated by some because he has perfected all four...

But the one thing you cant manipulate deep down, is your love for your kids... its easy to say he uses the kids as a media tool, but really, you have to accept that whatever lances flaws, or strengths you have no idea of his love for his kids... Yeh sure hold it against him because his ex feeds them, takes them to school, does the day to day stuff... thats how it works, there are millions of broken families all over america, it happens, and on the whole the women bring them up, many of the kids never see their fathers, and if hes there to spend halloween with them well good on him.. if he stayed home, youd critise him, if he decided to go out to dinner with barbie you would slate him for not being with his kids... so hes with his kids and its blamed on a publicity stunt.. Hes like a million other fathers in america.. Hes ****ed up his marriage, loads do it, hes had girlfreinds, loads do it.. Hes NORMAL!!!!

My father left when i was 3.. thats 35 years ago... i have heard from him once in that time.. i know where he is, hes actually a fairly high official at a proffesional football club in this country.. he spent five years denying i was even his son despite the fact that i look exactly like him... Id LOVE it if he went out with me for halloween, even if it was for a publicity stunt...

You can critise lance for a lot of things, but you cant critisise him for this.. and you cant take away from his kids the sheer joy they would have had from spending a night dressed up going out trick or treating with their dad..

We all **** up sometimes, lance has, but would you rather he was like the millions of other fathers who have no contact with their kids?

"a cynic is worse than a sceptic.. their foundation is fear"

Yes there are many faces to the Lance Armstrong. All exploit one thing. The media.

Thanks for the personal background info dimspace. You mentioned earlier that plenty of people world wide, million in numbers, post pictures of their moments of idiocy and joking about on social networking sites such as MySpace, FaceBook, Twitter, Flickers etc. Most are private and locked with security protocols. A select few can see personal details/info. Lance has over a million followers who have access to everything. He knew they would see the picture and anything he posts is intentional and deliberate. I won't tell you how to interpret it but I will suggest that Lance knew what he was doing and there was a purpose behind it.

Look to explain it better I'll give you a time perspective. Before the second coming I'd heard about Lance's drug taking but only looked into it thoroughly this year when his behaviour didn't match his word. I learned a great deal about doping in general, Lance and doping, but also that off the bike his character is lacking. After the Tour, I arrived at not being too fond of him, which I have been in the past. When he left his wife of 5 years with 3 small children, I thought it stunk (that was in 2005). I have never been able to contemplate how someone could willing agree to have children with their partner and not tough it out, but leave because it is convenient. I think leaving is cowardly and you should be very clear upfront with your expectations and desires in any relationship or not bother at all. You are simply wasting people's time.

However, I have never thought he was a great husband or father. Anyone, not just famous individuals who does what he did to his wife and children for nothing more than what appears to be selfish intentions gets no sympathy from me. Without discussing particulars, it is low, very low. Has my history mimicked this. Polar opposite. Nothing like it. I don't care that he did this, but I do know I could not, which is why I find it foul. This personal perspective is why I said the real judges will be his ex-wife and his children with the new girlfriend added in to the mix (nightmare) as anyone if of their father. You have the runs on the board. Being prudent would be wise and we will find out some time in the future when the kids are teenagers and young adults who can think for themselves. There is a lot of muck the may object to.

My point was that we may not know the particulars but comparing him to fathers who are 100 percent absent is not accurate, nor does it make him normal. Lleyton Hewitt has two young children who are on the road with him all season. Compare that to a pro-cyclist who works in Europe but whose children live in America. Lance is not normal. Kristin Armstrong raises the kids, Lance is away most of the time. She gets the Kudos. Yes it may be normal from his kids perspective, but that does not make it so in societal habits or ideals. Plus if he was a normal dad, he would not be critiqued, least of all by me. Good on him for spending what time he has with his children. Every second counts. I won't knock him for that (or doubt that he loves them) yet this will not tempt me to blindly shut my eyes and hope they are playing happy family 24/7 365 days a year. He could do more, as could many others.

pedaling squares said:
I don't understand where we, a bunch of cycling fans, get the nerve to judge whether a man is an adequate father and husband. Especially when most of our intel comes from the entertainment media.

We get that from perspective, ideals and beliefs, but it is reflection, not judgement. What is being marketed has no reflection on undertakings behind closed doors. That is why I raised it. Think about the psychology, statistics and stereotypes associated with difficult family relations. Lance already has most negative boxes ticked. I never said he was a bad father (his children are the only people qualified to do this) just that there is massive doubt there. There are issues. A great parent would not care if this were raised (unless pride and ego are rampant), they would ignore it because they know it is not true. Those who take issue, I suspect may have felt awkward at some home truths. This isn't personal, instead a reflection of universal values human values that are being bent and in some cases, broken on a regular occurrence. I have a favourite quote that sums it up, "Any fool can knock someone up, it takes a real man to be a father." The children will know, they always do.

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Prance is building an empire. Like The Donald. But Prance is trying to beat Shawn Kemp's record of fathering children out of wedlock. All the chicks knocked up in Malibu and Austin will be sending alimony petitions and fathers day cards to the Pranceplex.

Happy family, white picket fence, cancer survivor. Empire sounds right. The American dream. Package it, market and advertise that you are just like everyone else. That is why Max has a twitter account the month he is born. Play the sympathy card. Zomba records did it with Britney Spears. Sweet Louisiana virgin and mickey mouse clubber. Fast forward to today and reality suggests she was closer to trailer trash. Harsh, I know, but honest. People buy into fantasies, especially ones that suggest they have origins/history like their target market. LA may be a good father, I don't doubt he loves his kids, but with all I have learnt in my time, coupled with his background and issues, stereotypical in nature as they are, I have reservations that only his ex-wife and children can confirm do not have any basis. I hope for their sake I'm wrong.
 

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