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Inner Peace said:
I think Cadel should go all out at the Giro and go for the win. Only problem is the TTT where BMC may not have it to take time on Cervelo or Liquigas, who arguably have the biggest contenders of the race win.

As for the Tour, say Cadel goes podium at the Giro (very likely) then a top 10 at the Tour, I say that justifies paying out your contract (a million dollar pay out?) to move to a proper team unit like BMC for 2-3 years.

He has maybe 3 years left in the sport, why not try your hardest to win at least one grand tour in Italy this year, then do your best to back up in a months time (no racing in between, like in 07 and 09 when he backed up with good Vuelta's). Tour is a good course for him with a long TT and no team TT. He potentially will top 5, and I actually believe he will podium at both the Giro and Tour.

At the end of the day, I would kill to have a palmares like Evans has. Living in Aus, I can see the effect he has had on cycling in this country, which is a great country despite what Gallic Ho suggests (as hilarious as Wonder Lance, that GH is.. just can't take her seriously when i lurk the forums and read Ho's comments). It's inspiring to even make a podium in France, and Evans has done it twice.

If he gets multiple podiums in all three grand tours then he will be remembered as a consistent grand tour contender, and world champion, which is a pretty good effort in my book. For what it's worth, any rider who finishes top 10 in any grand tour inspires me to get out on the bike

Well said... he is a champion and has brought interest into this sport with australians no matter what gallic or timmy say.
 
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ak-zaaf said:
BMC is now Ballan's Medical Center? :D

Hope this blows over though.

I'll give you that one!:D

I am flying over to switzerland to get cadel's **** out of bmc. We don't want him associating with dirty ones like ballan!:rolleyes:
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I'll give you that one!:D

I am flying over to switzerland to get cadel's **** out of bmc. We don't want him associating with dirty ones like ballan!:rolleyes:

Maybe Lotto has a spot left. Doesn't seem so bad after all :)
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
I'll give you that one!:D

I am flying over to switzerland to get cadel's **** out of bmc. We don't want him associating with dirty ones like ballan!:rolleyes:

But associating with Hincapie's fine then is it?
 
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Hibbles said:
But associating with Hincapie's fine then is it?

what doping affair has he been involved in? this is different that just pure association to a rider who has doped. ballan is now linked to a doping affair.

(ACF94 talking out loud too himself): Must get rid of Ballan from Avatar!
 
auscyclefan94 said:
what doping affair has he been involved in? this is different that just pure association to a rider who has doped. ballan is now linked to a doping affair.

(ACF94 talking out loud too himself): Must get rid of Ballan from Avatar!

The iworkedforthehogsoimusthavedoped affair.
 
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what doping affair has he been involved in? this is different that just pure association to a rider who has doped. ballan is now linked to a doping affair.

(ACF94 talking out loud too himself): Must get rid of Ballan from Avatar!

There's as much, if not more, to link Hincapie to doping than there is Ballan at the moment. Only difference is one is being investigated by the polizia, and then only as part of a larger investigation of the team, not him personally, as such.
 
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Hibbles said:
There's as much, if not more, to link Hincapie to doping than there is Ballan at the moment. Only difference is one is being investigated by the polizia, and then only as part of a larger investigation of the team, not him personally, as such.

Then you could say that Evans is linked more than ballan because he rode for telekom even though he is not there anymore and hasn't ridden with them for 6 years!
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Well said... he is a champion and has brought interest into this sport with australians no matter what gallic or timmy say.

Of course he did. He is your hero FFS! He could kill a baby penguin and you'd defend him.

Prove the above statement. Just like the imbecile Rann in SA, you can't back a word of it up. Rann made some big claims about the TDU but didn't have the gall to release figures to prove it. The opposition leader in SA called him out and he whimpered off to sulk about his BS PR. Competitive cycling viewers are not growing. Cycling is a good sport but every small increase in seasonal viewers (not full time fans like us) means sweet F%^K all.

Remember the article on cycling central on SBS last year about Magda Szubanski and her jokes about running over cyclists? More people agreed with her than disagreed. Yeah, I can see how attitudes towards cyclist have really changed down here in the Land Down Under. Thank god, it must be because of Cadel! Grow the hell up. What you've claimed above ACF is akin to Liggetts parochial windbagging after LA's return to France last year and the Tour being better than ever. No, all that changed was Versus in the US gained some additional seasonal viewers and tv advertisers thought wow, we have to pay more for adds because LA is riding. Hardcore fan levels rarely fluctuate. As I said in the above post, Evans is a great rider, but I don't attribute the excellence of the sport in Australia solely on his shoulders. He is a small part, not for you and other fanboys, but in reality he just adds some news highlights for the Telegraph come July. The Vice Captain of the Aussie Cricket Teams sex life gets more mileage in the news than any Aussie cyclist ever has and probably ever will.
 
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Inner Peace said:
I think Cadel should go all out at the Giro and go for the win. Only problem is the TTT where BMC may not have it to take time on Cervelo or Liquigas, who arguably have the biggest contenders of the race win.

As for the Tour, say Cadel goes podium at the Giro (very likely) then a top 10 at the Tour, I say that justifies paying out your contract (a million dollar pay out?) to move to a proper team unit like BMC for 2-3 years.

He has maybe 3 years left in the sport, why not try your hardest to win at least one grand tour in Italy this year, then do your best to back up in a months time (no racing in between, like in 07 and 09 when he backed up with good Vuelta's). Tour is a good course for him with a long TT and no team TT. He potentially will top 5, and I actually believe he will podium at both the Giro and Tour.

At the end of the day, I would kill to have a palmares like Evans has. Living in Aus, I can see the effect he has had on cycling in this country, which is a great country despite what Gallic Ho suggests (as hilarious as Wonder Lance, that GH is.. just can't take her seriously when i lurk the forums and read Ho's comments). It's inspiring to even make a podium in France, and Evans has done it twice.

I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here but only this one time. Australia is the greatest country on the face of the earth. We've got everything you can need. Great outdoors, friendly people, beaches, sun, culture and sports. Great attitudes to back it up amongst the people. I have never said Australia is not great. Also, what female would use a name like Galic Ho? I've explained before my name was a GT that I carried over to forums. Do you even know what a GT stands for other than Grand Tour? Not something many women have. Everyone who reads these forums has known I am a mid 20s male for quite some time.

As for Evans. I prefer to be a realist. I call sports as I see them. Cannot remember the last time before Evans WC win that I didn't see a shock upset or surprise winner in sports. AS for my comments about aussie sports fans. Go to the cricket, NRL, A-League, Union or AFL and you'll see what I have described. Aussie sports fans are blinded when their heroes are the topic of the day and focus for a discussion. That isn't a bad thing, but it does prohibit some people from thinking rationally. Ask a Manly or Collingwood or Carlton fan about the evils of their team or the misbehavings that occur socially. They will deny everything. Same with Evans zealots.

Oh and I never said the guy wasn't good. He is. But he whines and makes excuses and has a habit of not using his brain...if he did he would have won a GT by now. You want all round strong sports men and women who are decent human beings off the competitive circuit? Follow surfing, netball or triathlon. In case you haven't noticed, cyclists are frowned upon by a strong percentage of the Aussie population. Wrongly, but denying this fact is pointless. Evans has done little to bridge the gap and to place the responsibilty on his shoulders is recklessly irresponsible. That falls on governing bodies and representative authorities for cycling. Not one man. As I said...I am a realist. Honestly I cut Evans more slack than his fans do...because I don't expect miracles from the guy.

As for taking me seriously. Like I care. Realist here. I picked the podium for the last two GT's last year. Been doing very well with races this year. How have you been doing? Get back to me when Evans wins a GT won't you and also if he podiums at both the Tour and Giro. I won't hold my breath.:D

If he gets multiple podiums in all three grand tours then he will be remembered as a consistent grand tour contender, and world champion, which is a pretty good effort in my book. For what it's worth, any rider who finishes top 10 in any grand tour inspires me to get out on the bike

Pretty much what I've been saying. He has a good record. But he won't podium in both the Giro and Tour. I think he can do one and that is it. Personally hope it is the Giro but history and Cadels mouth suggest it will be the Tour. I hope for his sake I am wrong.
 
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Of course he did. He is your hero FFS! He could kill a baby penguin and you'd defend him.

Prove the above statement. Just like the imbecile Rann in SA, you can't back a word of it up. Rann made some big claims about the TDU but didn't have the gall to release figures to prove it. The opposition leader in SA called him out and he whimpered off to sulk about his BS PR. Competitive cycling viewers are not growing. Cycling is a good sport but every small increase in seasonal viewers (not full time fans like us) means sweet F%^K all.

Remember the article on cycling central on SBS last year about Magda Szubanski and her jokes about running over cyclists? More people agreed with her than disagreed. Yeah, I can see how attitudes towards cyclist have really changed down here in the Land Down Under. Thank god, it must be because of Cadel! Grow the hell up. What you've claimed above ACF is akin to Liggetts parochial windbagging after LA's return to France last year and the Tour being better than ever. No, all that changed was Versus in the US gained some additional seasonal viewers and tv advertisers thought wow, we have to pay more for adds because LA is riding. Hardcore fan levels rarely fluctuate. As I said in the above post, Evans is a great rider, but I don't attribute the excellence of the sport in Australia solely on his shoulders. He is a small part, not for you and other fanboys, but in reality he just adds some news highlights for the Telegraph come July. The Vice Captain of the Aussie Cricket Teams sex life gets more mileage in the news than any Aussie cyclist ever has and probably ever will.

Galic, CALM DOWN! Until then I will not respond to that. You are going a little over the top here!
 
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Galic Ho said:
Of course he did. He is your hero FFS! He could kill a baby penguin and you'd defend him.

Prove the above statement. Just like the imbecile Rann in SA, you can't back a word of it up. Rann made some big claims about the TDU but didn't have the gall to release figures to prove it. The opposition leader in SA called him out and he whimpered off to sulk about his BS PR. Competitive cycling viewers are not growing. Cycling is a good sport but every small increase in seasonal viewers (not full time fans like us) means sweet F%^K all.

Remember the article on cycling central on SBS last year about Magda Szubanski and her jokes about running over cyclists? More people agreed with her than disagreed. Yeah, I can see how attitudes towards cyclist have really changed down here in the Land Down Under. Thank god, it must be because of Cadel! Grow the hell up. What you've claimed above ACF is akin to Liggetts parochial windbagging after LA's return to France last year and the Tour being better than ever. No, all that changed was Versus in the US gained some additional seasonal viewers and tv advertisers thought wow, we have to pay more for adds because LA is riding. Hardcore fan levels rarely fluctuate. As I said in the above post, Evans is a great rider, but I don't attribute the excellence of the sport in Australia solely on his shoulders. He is a small part, not for you and other fanboys, but in reality he just adds some news highlights for the Telegraph come July. The Vice Captain of the Aussie Cricket Teams sex life gets more mileage in the news than any Aussie cyclist ever has and probably ever will.

(Hpoing you've calmed down) Galic, please do not go crazy because you disagree with me. You are transforming into a monster like me! I don't have the link on me right now but SBS's rating have gone up each year and personally that is down to evans' success at the tour. It isn't just about viewers also. just in general people who i know talk about it more and more. I know multiple people who couldn't care less about cycling coming up to me saying evans is in 4th place at the tour. he has a good chance of winning. Why would sbs increasing what they are showing of cycling if viewers aren't increasing? In a poll in 2007 evans was voted australia's most popular athelte! Because you picked two podiums last year does that make you an expert? I'm not sure if you have noticed but every year on news bullteins and newspapers cycling is getting a mention and more than it use to. That's not fanboyism but making a factual statement!
 
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Ask Rob Arnold how his sales are going with RIDE magazine? they are quite comparitive to the main french bike mag in percentage of popultation.
 
auscyclefan94 said:
giro win overall and to try and do his best at the tour he has said. he will want to win though. in a recent interview, sherwen thinks he will hold back at the giro for the tour.

Didn't he make this statement prior to BMC getting their official Tour invite?
 
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Personally, I emerged into the world of cycling through my friends who were already into the sport. I didnt start watching cycling because of some hero or added TV coverage. Evans happened to be the dude going off as I became more aware of the sport. But the focus on him is because he's Australian and doing well. These days, as for GC riders, I am more impressed with the likes of Sastre and Menchov. As for Aussies I'm more impressed with O'Grady. They are all tough mofos though.

Topic: Evans should ride Giro, forget Tour, then ride Vuelta. Focus on Tour next year when the team is better.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Then you could say that Evans is linked more than ballan because he rode for telekom even though he is not there anymore and hasn't ridden with them for 6 years!

True. So maybe now you understand the hypocrisy of condemning Ballan at the moment?
 
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Hibbles said:
True. So maybe now you understand the hypocrisy of condemning Ballan at the moment?

your logic is crazy! someone who is under investigation is worse than someone who has been associated with a doper(s)
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
your logic is crazy! someone who is under investigation is worse than someone who has been associated with a doper(s)

He is only under investigation because he was on a team associated with doping! How is that any different to Hincapie and Evans?! He has had as many positive tests as Hincapie and Evans combined! Zero!

Being under investigation does not mean someone is guilty of something. If you were on that team, you would now be "under investigation". That's all. Not charged, not tested positive, just an investigation by association.
 
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Hibbles said:
He is only under investigation because he was on a team associated with doping! How is that any different to Hincapie and Evans?! He has had as many positive tests as Hincapie and Evans combined! Zero!

Being under investigation does not mean someone is guilty of something. If you were on that team, you would now be "under investigation". That's all. Not charged, not tested positive, just an investigation by association.

Only he is under investigation as he is former lampre and is named in the report.