Paris-Nice 2023, March 5-12

[Boehmand]

Tadej is playing the same game against Jonas at the Tour, he hasn't learned.

Different dynamics in a 1-week race, where fatigue does not have the same impact.

 

[Boehmand]

Of course Vingegaard is still wearing a mask

He really excels at annoying me.

It's flu season, so it absolutely makes sense.

 

[Boehmand]

Everybody knows that the only reason that Belgians win all the time is because they have the best Doner kebab, frites and curry ketchup.. take that away and they are off the back..

Breakfast of champions

 

[hfer07]

gotta love how Pogacar rattled the peloton to chase him down on both climbs & the time bonus sprint.

 

[Boehmand]

Congratulations to Tim Merlier for wining the sprint.

As for GC battle. Day one, sprinters stage and Pogi already isolated Jonas twice and gained 6 bonus seconds. In my opinion teams won't play that big role on this race. It's in between them.

With a TTT in a 1 week race, I'd say the team is rather important

 

[YavorD]

On this race Pogi doesn't have to worry about JV numbers game. Hence if he can gain something he should attack. Especially as Jonas might get a couple of "bonus" seconds at TTT.

Pog's problem weren't the Jumbo numbers. Pog's problem last year was that Vingo was was equally strong/stronger than him. This may very well be the case this year as well.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Vingegaard was smart.

That sounds like what a condescendant teacher says of the dumb kid in class.

Pog's problem weren't the Jumbo numbers. Pog's problem last year was that Vingo was was equally strong/stronger than him. This may very well be the case this year as well.

Wrong. Pog's problem started when he thought he ought to cover Roglic's attack and Vingo's attacks. That's teamwork.

 

[YavorD]

That sounds like what a condescendant teacher says of the dumb kid in class.



Wrong. Pog's problem started when he thought he ought to cover Roglic's attack and Vingo's attacks. That's teamwork.

Right. Because Pog was actually stronger than Vingo everywhere else in the Tour.

 

[CyclistAbi]

They will on Tuesday.

With a TTT in a 1 week race, I'd say the team is rather important

On paper yes and likely Jonas to indeed gain some "bonus". But somehow i feel that this won't be the decisive moment of the race. In regards to GC. For that i feel that Pogi and Jonas and maybe a drone to keep up.

Pog's problem weren't the Jumbo numbers. Pog's problem last year was that Vingo was was equally strong/stronger than him. This may very well be the case this year as well.

Obviously.

 

[Jumbo Visma Fan :)]

On paper yes and likely Jonas to indeed gain some "bonus". But somehow i feel that this won't be the decisive moment of the race. In regards to GC. For that i feel that Pogi and Jonas and maybe a drone to keep up.



Obviously.

Other than bonus seconds the TTT will separate the inseparable Pogi and Vingo based on their current form. Teams certainly matter for this race.

 

[CyclistAbi]

Nah i don't buy it. Teams won't decide this race. First stage for sprinters and both teams already nowhere to be seen. And both JV and UAE for sure didn't bring the best of the best. Likely intentionally. Hence team leaders will need to decide the outcome of this race.

But best to wait and see.

 

[Andy schleck]

Nah i don't buy it. Teams won't decide this race. First stage for sprinters and both teams already nowhere to be seen. And both JV and UAE for sure didn't bring the best of the best. Likely intentionally. Hence team leaders will need to decide the outcome of this race.

But best to wait and see.

The TTT will decide the race. I don't think there will be significant differences between vingegaard and pogacar in the mountains.

 

[Tim Cahill]

Expect Van Der Hoorn, Sweeny, De Gendt on +7 minutes to go for the break tomorrow.

 

[search]

Expect Van Der Hoorn, Sweeny, De Gendt on +7 minutes to go for the break tomorrow.

It's a fairly windy day, so even if they do, they probably won't even make the tv window.

 

[Oldermanish]

Pog burning matches

Pog racing! Let the robots do their thing. He'll be fine in the Tour and have some good attacking fun in the meantime.

 

[DNP-Old]

It’s windy.

 

[Extinction]

Different dynamics in a 1-week race, where fatigue does not have the same impact.

I tend to think it's unwise to expend energy unneccesserily. And it's also better to strike at the right moments.

 

[Berflamand]

That's completely meaningless on VRT. Basically every Dutch/Flemish tv show, interview.... is being subtitled. Only the news broadcast and a few other things don't get subtitles. Currently looking at "Het Verhaal van Vlaanderen" which has university professors as commentators and a professional actor to tell the story... every word is subtitled.

They used to do this for heavy local accents and dialects, because there are some parts of Flanders where people have a congenital birth defect that leads to speech impediment. So they started subtitling that, but then those people got offended, and so they started subtitling everyone.

Hey now, I feel offended!

Unless you mean Limburg instead of West-Vlaanderen, then I fully agree.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I tend to think it's unwise to expend energy unneccesserily. And it's also better to strike at the right moments.

He made a small effort. A one minute effort. Not enough to affect his recovery at all

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Hey now, I feel offended!

Unless you mean Limburg instead of West-Vlaanderen, then I fully agree.

I must admit, i've heard some Limburgs that might as well have been Chinese, but generally speaking, Limburgs is quite comprehensible.
Let's just say De Lie getting subtitled should not be seen as a judgement of how well (or bad) he speaks Dutch.

 

[RedheadDane]

I must admit, i've heard some Limburgs that might as well have been Chinese, but generally speaking, Limburgs is quite comprehensible.
Let's just say De Lie getting subtitled should not be seen as a judgement of how well (or bad) he speaks Dutch.

Oh, come on! Just admit it; the "speech impediment" is speaking Dutch, of any variation.

 

[Lequack]

Isn't Dutch just drunken English?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Isn't Dutch just drunken English?

No that's Double Dutch : https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/double_Dutch#Noun

 

[Earns1985]

Is there enough wind today? Wind direccion at least seems to be good for echelons..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632444498595676160

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1632444498595676160

 

[Lequack]

Is there enough wind today? Wind direccion at least seems to be good for echelons..

https://twitter.com/x/status/1632444498595676160

View: https://twitter.com/Domestique___/status/1632444498595676160

Doesn't seem like enough wind, just ~10kmh.