Paris-Nice 2023, March 5-12

[Unchained]

Some users will say Pogi's sprint has burned his matches. Poor fella, didn't learn anything from last year's Tour.

He is getting paid to do interval training

 

[tobydawq]

EF losing both TTTs by one second is pretty tough luck.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

Thanks
comms on ES said differently awhile ago

Never assume that ES have read the rule book for any event. If it isn't on the PCS page, they don't know.

 

[JosefK]

The cheerful mustached assassin strikes again for yellow! Chapeau.

 

[Bolder]

That was a pretty exciting TTT, kinda like the first over the line rule.

 

[noob]

Actually I am probably the only person in the world who likes them.

I like them too! But then again, I just generally like cycling!

Me loves them three

 

[Berflamand]

Would be funny if Jumbo lose Paris-Nice now to Pog with a few seconds time difference after this TTT where (at least I think) they probably could take more time with a better pacing strategy but they tried to get Van Hooydonck into yellow (which failed).

 

[Valv.Piti]

Whats wrong with Van Hoydonck now? If I was a tiny climber, there wouldnt be another guy Id like to have on my team more on the flat days

 

[RedheadDane]

Whats wrong with Van Hoydonck now? If I was a tiny climber, there wouldnt be another guy Id like to have on my team more on the flat days

He pushed Matthews yesterday.

 

[Ricco']

Will Vingegaard start to bother about intermediate seconds now if Pogi goes for them?

Although I feel this UAE squad TT ability was being kind of underrated, the engines that JV had here called for more than 23 seconds of difference in the end.

 

[Unchained]

Would be funny if Jumbo lose Paris-Nice now to Pog with a few seconds time difference after this TTT where (at least I think) they probably could take more time with a better pacing strategy but they tried to get Van Hooydonck into yellow (which failed).

I don't understand lesser teams, they know that the overall is out of reach, they don't have talent to contest stages and all that's left is getting jersey time for the sponsors by getting in early breaks and winning the crumbs that are intermediate sprints..instead sprint bonus points are going to a stringy climber.. Is Pogocar really that good? Jumbo better hope not..

 

[RedheadDane]

Will Vingegaard start to bother about intermediate seconds now if Pogi goes for them?

I don't think it'll make much of a difference. Pogacar is just the quicker finisher.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Always nice to see that the silly gimmick mickey-mouse procession that you boycotted had relatively little GC impact, should have just put a proper ITT. Tomorrow back to racing.

 

[Ricco']

I don't think it'll make much of a difference. Pogacar is just the quicker finisher.

Yes, but for example yesterday, if instead of Van Hooydonck was Vingo there following wheels, he would lose 2 seconds less.

 

[Berflamand]

I don't think it'll make much of a difference. Pogacar is just the quicker finisher.

If nobody else bothers, at least he'll be second and the time gain for Pog will only be 2 seconds each sprint instead of 6.

 

[RedheadDane]

If nobody else bothers, at least he'll be second and the time gain for Pog will only be 2 seconds each sprint instead of 6.

Yeah, yesterday, the smarter tactic - rather than have Van Hooydonck try to take bonus seconds ahead of Pogacar - would probably have been for Vingegaard to just glue himself to Pogacar's wheel.

 

[gunara]

Can't say I don't like this gimmick to the TTT. More varied sights, at the finish at least.

 

[Samamba]

He pushed Matthews yesterday.

He also thinks it's normal to call other teams losers when they don't help Jumbo Visma - yk the team that has like 5 pre race favorites in every classic - catch an early break. And he's always been pretty arrogant, going back to his u23 days (when tbf he was a really good rider).

 

[Boehmand]

Will Vingegaard start to bother about intermediate seconds now if Pogi goes for them?

Breakaway stages the next 3 days - and I would not be surprised at all, to see Cort in the break tomorrow, wearing yellow

I think it's more likely Pogacar will go for the bonus seconds on the final climb tomorrow (provided the break is caught).

 

[tobydawq]

Yes, but for example yesterday, if instead of Van Hooydonck was Vingo there following wheels, he would lose 2 seconds less.

Trentin would probably have taken them in that case.

 

[tobydawq]

Can't say I don't like this gimmick to the TTT. More varied sights, at the finish at least.

I'm also all-in for this.

 

[Boehmand]

Always nice to see that the silly gimmick mickey-mouse procession that you boycotted had relatively little GC impact, should have just put a proper ITT. Tomorrow back to racing.

Are you referring to the rule change for the TTT?

If so I completely disagree.

If the 4th man counted, UAE would have lost a lot more time today.

 

[RedheadDane]

Has Pogacar ever lost the BYR jersey after he has taken it?

1	20	▲19	O'BRIEN Kelland	Team Jayco AlUla	7:53:52
2	1	▼1	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates	0:03
3	18	▲15	BISSEGGER Stefan	EF Education-EasyPost	0:06

 

[Berflamand]

I'm also all-in for this.

Me too. I want to see this again in a TTT with a climb somewhere in the middle to see more different strategies.

 

[Lequack]

I liked this format, a bit less predictable and it's cool to see just lone riders sprinting to the line at the end. Great performance by Jumbo, as expected. But even better by EF and Magnus Cort.