Paris-Tours

[roundabout]

hmm, didn't there use to be another little climb in the final, cote petit pas something

wonder why it's not used this year

 

[Papparrazzi]

What wait a minute Paris-tours isn't world tour? what a joke. Still a great race though.

Agree.
I'm a supporter of 'Global Cycling' but, the UCI is trying to re-value the events and history of this great sport in too much of a hurry. New races should earn their status, not have it bestowed on them by beaurocrats at Aigle

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

anyway Gilbert won two times there thanks to this hills

Nope, the hill he won from isn't on the route anymore. Last year Furlan made it to the sprint on this route. I would almost back my chances to make it, and I haven't ridden a bike in 3 years.

 

[Kvinto]

Nope, the hill he won from isn't on the route anymore. Last year Furlan made it to the sprint on this route. I would almost back my chances to make it, and I haven't ridden a bike in 3 years.

so the finish part of the route has changed?

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

so the finish part of the route has changed?

Ya, here is Gilbert' route

http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=7583

Amusing to note someone in the ASO thinks the sea has risen 8m in the last 2 years. Not even watermellons would claim that.

 

[Kvinto]

Ya, here is Gilbert' route

http://pezcyclingnews.com/?pg=fullstory&id=7583

Amusing to note someone in the ASO thinks the sea has risen 8m in the last 2 years. Not even watermellons would claim that.

oh, these hills used to be closer to the finish...
thank you!

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

oh, these hills used to be closer to the finish...
thank you!

Of course, those profiles open a whole new can of worms as the gradient notation does not fit in the slightest. Epan can not be 500m of 8% and yet only gain 20m.

 

[Tank Engine]

Nope, the hill he won from isn't on the route anymore. Last year Furlan made it to the sprint on this route. I would almost back my chances to make it, and I haven't ridden a bike in 3 years.

So, it's Cav ftw then. I can understand them changing the finishing straight, but Paris Tours was always about whether the late break could stay away or not (OK Virenque won one year after a long break, was that with Durand?). Taking out a hill will destroy that balance.

 

[search]

they did change it again, they are not taking the same route like last year

 

[Kvinto]

the hills - Cote de Beau Solell and Cote de l'Epan seems to be the same as in 2010...

 

[search]

the hills - Cote de Beau Solell and Cote de l'Epan seems to be the same as in 2010...

no, they aren't, but it doesn't really matter in regards of the hills itself:



http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5124/paristours20102011.jpg

(the hills are marked with blue color)

it's just a bit more twisty and as far as I think more difficult to control

 

[El Pistolero]

It definitely is easier now for non-sprinters to win. Now there's only a straight finish of 660 meters instead of 2.2km.

 

[Kvinto]

no, they aren't, but it doesn't really matter in regards of the hills itself:



http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5124/paristours20102011.jpg

(the hills are marked with blue color)

it's just a bit more twisty and as far as I think more difficult to control

thank you!
PS: in fact looking at the map, hills are really the same, but the ascents on them are different

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

400m of 3%


Such a shame Contador finishes his season so early.

 

[c&cfan]

400m of 3%


Such a shame Contador finishes his season so early.

next year (if he isn't banned), I seriously believe that we will see Alberto doing this late season classics. i mean.. sure he can win at least Giro de Lombardia. Problem is, he starts his season early and already winning pretty much any stage race, so even after a break, a tour-vuelta double (for someone that is really trying to win both) after a successfull early season will take it's tool.

having said that, Contador is just awesome He would still fight for victory at races like emilia and lombardia.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

next year (if he isn't banned), I seriously believe that we will see Alberto doing this late season classics. i mean.. sure he can win at least Giro de Lombardia. Problem is, he starts his season early and already winning pretty much any stage race, so even after a break, a tour-vuelta double (for someone that is really trying to win both) after a successfull early season will take it's tool.

having said that, Contador is just awesome He would still fight for victory at races like emilia and lombardia.

Contador could easily contend at some of the late season classics (though he may have to go solo at Lombardia, since we know he's not the best in a sprint, and he got stitched up completely by Rojas at the nationals, dragging the sprinter all the way up the climb, down the climb and throughout the flat run in like an idiot), but Paris-Tours is not one of them.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

For clarification, I was being sarcastic - this profile would have everyone moaning about the inevitable result if you put it in the tour.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

With the mention of 400m at 3% as the "hill", the sarcasm was clear enough to me at least.

 

[zapata]

I like this race. even if it does often end in a bunch sprint, it never feels like a foregone conclusion.

Mark Cavendish was saying on twitter this morning that there would be "plenty of wind and rain", and seemingly dreading the long day in the saddle..that said, I wouldn't be the least bit surprized if he won..

I'll be cheering for Arvesen to win his last ever race, after losing to guezdon five years ago.

 

[Wergeland]

I like this race. even if it does often end in a bunch sprint, it never feels like a foregone conclusion.

Mark Cavendish was saying on twitter this morning that there would be "plenty of wind and rain", and seemingly dreading the long day in the saddle..that said, I wouldn't be the least bit surprized if he won..

I'll be cheering for Arvesen to win his last ever race, after losing to guezdon five years ago.

In regards to Arvesen, it is now confirmed that he will stay at Team Sky as a DS for next year.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

With the mention of 400m at 3% as the "hill", the sarcasm was clear enough to me at least.

Yes, although embarassingly I was only following the ASO's nomenclature on that one.

Just clarifying for someone else, as apparently the mention of Contador was sufficiently laughable for them.

 

[auscyclefan94]

Supposedly 7 riders are in the break with a lead of 11 minutes. Any news on who that might be?

EDIT: Found some names Will Clarke (LEO), Boucher (OLO), Klier (GAR), Martias (SAU), Delfosse (LAN), Bertogliati (TTI), V.Goolen (VWA)

 

[Kensuke]

Boucher, Klier, Martias, Delfosse, Bertogliati and Van Goolen. Almost 11'.minutes

 

[woodie]

is there a live feed?

 

[hatcher]

is there a live feed?

First one starts in 30 minutes I believe.