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Actually, he is vectoring back just before they go under the tree and he is not touching Sagan at that point. Meanwhile, Sagan is clearly moving in a diagonal pattern. I'd argue that is is Sagan who initiates the contact based on that video.blutto said:...well if it was 100% elbow this frame by frame replay doesn't make sense on an absolute 100% level...the elbow is definitely out but its in front of and above Cavendish...and then there is the obvious lean into Sagan from Cavendish before he loses his balance ( and from the overhead shot you can see him initiate that lean as he approaches Sagan from behind ).... maybe the contact was made in the split second Sagan was behind Demarre but that can't be the basis for the 100% statement....it looks more like Cavendish's handlebars hit Sagan's butt....really too bad the trees got in the way of the overhead shot which would have been definitive...deValtos said:Just for the record head commissar Philippe Mariën says the reason they threw Sagan off the Tour was because of the elbow. They said it looked deliberate.
Nothing to do with any line deviations for any rider, 100% elbow.
....the frame by frame video...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykdWbvtWprI
....the overhead that shows Cavendish starting to lean early because(?) he knows he is heading into a space where there will be contact ( and there was contact and he lost the battle )....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z7eKOlHUY2E
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