Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[Carrick-On-Seine]

I think for any leader it should be Leader + 2 Support riders(With 1 of them the last man) + 1 Mechanic + 1 Doctor/Physio etc. Any more support should come from the team itself and if more support is required, it should from his personal management not on the team. Consider team size in a GT is 8 and a one day race is 7 , if the Sagan 5 are there where is the space to accomodate the other leaders and would Sagan 5 extend the same support for other leaders. In the DSQ team that would be impossible.

Yeah I can't see how the Sagan 5 would fit with Asgreen being the protected rider.

 

[tobydawq]

Yeah I can't see how the Sagan 5 would fit with Asgreen being the protected rider.

It's not like the other four ride every race with him. Juraj for example has only ever started one GT where he quite quickly missed the time limit...

 

[WKA311]

Him and Bora are in extensive talks and signs are pointing to him likely staying.

Link: https://www.sportschau.de/radsport/buchmann-tour-de-france-denk-tourfunk-100.html

 

[Remy55]

And it sounds like he will ride the Tour and Ackermann not.

 

[boneshaker]

It's not like the other four ride every race with him. Juraj for example has only ever started one GT where he quite quickly missed the time limit...

Some people are saying that it was his duty that day

Tour de France 2017 Stage 9 results

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[Leinster]

Some people are saying that it was his duty that day

Tour de France 2017 Stage 9 results

Rigoberto Urán is the winner of Tour de France 2017 Stage 9, before Warren Barguil and Chris Froome. Chris Froome was leader in GC.

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What was his duty? To hang out with Demare all day and make sure he didn't get any sticky bottles?

 

[boneshaker]

What was his duty? To hang out with Demare all day and make sure he didn't get any sticky bottles?

Yes, that's the rumour.

 

[Leinster]

Yes, that's the rumour.

Jesus. I was joking. Surely they could have sent a soigneur on a moped? And whatever way you saw the Sagan/Cav crash, it was hardly Demare's fault that Pete was out of the race, so why did Bora care?

 

[boneshaker]

Jesus. I was joking. Surely they could have sent a soigneur on a moped? And whatever way you saw the Sagan/Cav crash, it was hardly Demare's fault that Pete was out of the race, so why did Bora care?

It is just a speculation by some Slovak fans, do not take it too seriously.

 

[PeterB]

Jesus. I was joking. Surely they could have sent a soigneur on a moped? And whatever way you saw the Sagan/Cav crash, it was hardly Demare's fault that Pete was out of the race, so why did Bora care?

I am pretty sure that there are strict regulations for vehicles in the race convoy and teams certainly cannot just ride around on mopeds...

 

[Leinster]

I am pretty sure that there are strict regulations for vehicles in the race convoy and teams certainly cannot just ride around on mopeds...

I'm not saying it didn't happen.

I'm saying if it did, then Bora are stupid. And "Soigneur on a moped" is less stupid an idea than "tell a guy on his first GT start to finish OTL."

 

[Oldermanish]

And it sounds like he will ride the Tour and Ackermann not.

I think he's ready for this Tour and wants that jersey. Badly.

 

[SHAD0W93]

I think he's ready for this Tour and wants that jersey. Badly.

Now if he wins the jersey, does he go to the Vuelta for a triple.

 

[Pinot's goat]

I think he's ready for this Tour and wants that jersey. Badly.

I don't really see any stages where Sagan will score and the other sprinters won't so him winning green seems massively unlikely.

 

[Leinster]

I don't really see any stages where Sagan will score and the other sprinters won't so him winning green seems massively unlikely.

I wouldn't say "massively" unlikely, he'll just have to work harder for it. He is still one of the most consistent sprinters in the peloton, and he'll finish top 5 in most stages/intermediates, where others will fluctuate from 1st to 20th. Last year's course was perfect for Bennett, Bennett won almost every head to head between the 2, and Sagan got relegated from 2nd place on stage 11, but still the jersey was mathematically up for grabs on the Champs Elysees. So this year could be more of the same, which would be great.

 

[Keram]

Not this year with Flanders WC and autumn Roubaix. But maybe he will want Vuelta jersey before his retirement when he has ciclamino now.

Now if he wins the jersey, does he go to the Vuelta for a triple.

 

[Leinster]

Not this year with Flanders WC and autumn Roubaix. But maybe he will want Vuelta jersey before his retirement when he has ciclamino now.

This year's Vuelta route doesn't suit him, and the Vuelta points jersey isn't a sprinter's jersey anyway.

 

[Blanco]

This year's Vuelta route doesn't suit him, and the Vuelta points jersey isn't a sprinter's jersey anyway.

He will get it some year, but not this one...

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I wouldn't say "massively" unlikely, he'll just have to work harder for it. He is still one of the most consistent sprinters in the peloton, and he'll finish top 5 in most stages/intermediates, where others will fluctuate from 1st to 20th. Last year's course was perfect for Bennett, Bennett won almost every head to head between the 2, and Sagan got relegated from 2nd place on stage 11, but still the jersey was mathematically up for grabs on the Champs Elysees. So this year could be more of the same, which would be great.

Van der Poel is gonna be a tough nut to crack though. Could be a very fun battle!

 

[BlueRoads]

Van der Poel is gonna be a tough nut to crack though. Could be a very fun battle!

If van der Poel goes for green he will win it with ease. However I don't expect him to. I suppose he will try to win as many stages as possible, but not contest the intermediate sprints (and maybe even drop out early). Since Bora will do everything to get the points there, Sagan will win green, unless Bahrain goes in for Colbrelli, but their team doesn't look like they will.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

If van der Poel goes for green he will win it with ease. However I don't expect him to. I suppose he will try to win as many stages as possible, but not contest the intermediate sprints (and maybe even drop out early). Since Bora will do everything to get the points there, Sagan will win green, unless Bahrain goes in for Colbrelli, but their team doesn't look like they will.

As far as I know, Alpecin is "forcing" VdP to complete the Tour, and knowing VdP he probably can't help himself then. I think he'll go for it. Colbrelli is another good call for sure, if Bahrain lets him loose. It was disastrous to see him on such a tight leash last year.

 

[Keram]

I dont think MVDP will contest bunch sprint stages. Sagan will.

 

[Blanco]

Van der Poel is gonna be a tough nut to crack though. Could be a very fun battle!

Van Der Poel doesn't like bunch sprints, and he most likely won't contest them, while Sagan will grab there a lots of points. And beside that, I think Mathieu will exit from the Tour after two weeks.

 

[Taxus4a]

It will be a very exciting battle for green jersey and stages with VdP and Allaphillipe. One of the most interesting things of this Tour.

 

[Oldermanish]

If van der Poel goes for green he will win it with ease. However I don't expect him to. I suppose he will try to win as many stages as possible, but not contest the intermediate sprints (and maybe even drop out early). Since Bora will do everything to get the points there, Sagan will win green, unless Bahrain goes in for Colbrelli, but their team doesn't look like they will.

MVP is massively talented. Peter Sagan...motivated to undo the humiliation of last year's relegation "win" by Sam Bennett will be trying very hard to make every moment count. He's spent other Tours doing bottle duty because he's had a good lead in the jersey points but I think that ends with this GT. How it works out for all is going to be interesting and Sagan flourishes when there are multiple contenders.