Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[tobydawq]

Okay.

 

[search]

I'd tend to agree with Yaco. Even in regards to his technical abilities he looked considerably worse than usual recently, for whatever reason

 

[Leinster]

If I were Bora I'd go with Pollitt as leader and Sagan as backup for PR. Sagan doesn't have it anymore.

I suspect he’ll still be leader because he’s Peter Sagan. But since his stage win at the Tour, I’ve seen Politt as a definite dark horse for Roubaix (as much as last edition’s runner up can be a “dark horse”), and it’s possible Sagan’s best role in the final hour of racing will be “if you’re going to chase Politt, you have to tow Sagan with you.”

It would be ironic if, finally, Sagan has team support in the finale of a monument and a) he’s leaving the team next year and b) he has to work for that teammate and not vice versa.

 

[jmdirt]

PS showed once again that he is the best sprinter in the world!

 

[Krzysztof_O]

PS showed once again that he is the best sprinter in the world!

Outsprinting a speed monster like Bernal is surely the pinnacle of his career.

 

[tobydawq]

Outsprinting a speed monster like Bernal is surely the pinnacle of his career.

Bernal was once on a monument podium thanks to his sprint.

 

[limak_]

The majority of pros: "party culture in proffesional cycling is dead nowadays"

Peter Sagan:

...wins Romandie stage, 3 days later.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

The majority of pros: "party culture in proffesional cycling is dead nowadays"

Peter Sagan:

...wins Romandie stage 3 days later.

Article said 'last' April. Didn't know if it was 2020 or 2021. Is it bad that this makes me bit feel any less about Sagan (apart from the antivax part)?

 

[yaco]

The majority of pros: "party culture in proffesional cycling is dead nowadays"

Peter Sagan:

...wins Romandie stage 3 days later.

It seemed to work, seeing he won stage 2 of Romandie - Possibly he could have tried that preparation more often during the season.

 

[limak_]

Article said 'last' April. Didn't know if it was 2020 or 2021.

Had the same doubts about the term "last", but I belive it refers to April '21 (just checked, the curfew in Monaco was still applied at that time).

Few more details here: https://www.velonews.com/news/road/...ce-officer-after-breaching-a-covid-19-curfew/

 

[IndianCyclist]

When the performances on the road take a dive and the media spectacle takes over, it is the beginning of the end.

 

[limak_]

When the performances on the road take a dive and the media spectacle takes over, it is the beginning of the end.

I'm not saying Sagan isn't coming near his end (cause his best day are surely over), but I suppose there'd be the same media spectacle about any othere rider who did what Sagan did in April. Also don't forget that some sort of media spectacle has been an inseparable element of Sagan's career from the very beginning.

 

[Keram]

Well I read he was afraid they will get him vaccine so it was probably 2021.

 

[Screecher]

Hard to say whether Sagan actually is antivax or if it was simply used as an excuse for his behavior (probably not the best excuse as it's a controversial topic).

 

[fmk_RoI]

Hard to say whether Sagan actually is antivax or if it was simply used as an excuse for his behavior (probably not the best excuse as it's a controversial topic).

If he wasn't such a thicko he'd have known he wouldn't have been shot up with Bill Gates's magic serum, as he was at that point just a couple of months past having the lurgi and so not eligible to be vaxxed. The boy should stick to letting off fire extinguishers.

Has to be said though, he looks like the type who'd hang out with Andrew Talansky.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

If he wasn't such a thicko he'd have known he wouldn't have been shot up with Bill Gates's magic serum, as he was at that point just a couple of months past having the lurgi and so not eligible to be vaxxed. The boy should stick to letting off fire extinguishers.

Has to be said though, he looks like the type who'd hang out with Andrew Talansky.

Man I had no idea the stuff talansky was spouting until I read this. He was never the most intelligent racer.

 

[tobydawq]

Man I had no idea the stuff talansky was spouting until I read this. He was never the most intelligent racer.

I unfollowed him on Twitter just a couple of days ago. A total nutcase.

 

[Jspear]

Man I had no idea the stuff talansky was spouting until I read this. He was never the most intelligent racer.

Lol political or personal ideologies have nothing to do with how well someone races. You can have bad ideas and be a great racer or you can be an unintelligent racer and have great ideas in other areas of life.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Lol political or personal ideologies have nothing to do with how well someone races. You can have bad ideas and be a great racer or you can be an unintelligent racer and have great ideas in other areas of life.

Examples

 

[Jspear]

Examples

Aaron Rogers. Great QB, made headlines recently for being against the Covid Vaccine.

I don’t really follow cyclist personal lives. Its just obvious that one’s personal ideas aren’t going to directly correlate to how well you race a bike.

 

[Mayomaniac]

If he wasn't such a thicko he'd have known he wouldn't have been shot up with Bill Gates's magic serum, as he was at that point just a couple of months past having the lurgi and so not eligible to be vaxxed. The boy should stick to letting off fire extinguishers.

Has to be said though, he looks like the type who'd hang out with Andrew Talansky.

He was probably drunk, so I don't expect him to act super rational. Maybe his opinion at the time was just that he didn't need the vaccine because he already had Covid. Not the biggest Sagan fan, but it's a bit harsh to assume that he's an anti-vax hardliner because of this.

 

[myrideissteelerthanyours]

He was probably drunk, so I don't expect him to act super rational. Maybe his opinion at the time was just that he didn't need the vaccine because he already had Covid. Not the biggest Sagan fan, but it's a bit harsh to assume that he's an anti-vax hardliner because of this.

I read it as he didnt want to be randomly injected with a powerful vaccine at some random interval because he's an elite pro athlete and he works with his doctors before he takes injections. Wouldn't it be against UCI rules to randomly take needle injections at 1am?

 

[fmk_RoI]

He was probably drunk, so I don't expect him to act super rational.

Does he act rational when sober?

 

[fmk_RoI]

Wouldn't it be against UCI rules to randomly take needle injections at 1am?

Rather than indulging in your rather strange theory, let's address the key issue: you get arrested for D&D and the cops shoot you up with a vaccine? In Monaco? Really?

 

[limak_]

Examples

Lol political or personal ideologies have nothing to do with how well someone races. You can have bad ideas and be a great racer or you can be an unintelligent racer and have great ideas in other areas of life.

Mind that assesing, if someone's personal ideologies, or everyday life choices/ideas are good or bad is very very subjective, so generally this whole discussion is totally pointless.