Teams & Riders Peter Sagan discussion thread.

[CheckMyPecs]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sagan-is-only-lacking-a-bit-of-luck-says-gatto/

"After another disappointing showing at Milan-San Remo, he was burdened, too, by questions as to whether he had the legs and tactical acumen for Monument-length racing."

So even when he gets taken out of contention through no fault of his own (and should rather be applauded on his ability to stay upright), people (including CN writers) continue to bash him, classy.

CN writers are merely reporting on what other people say. Don't shoot the messenger.

 

[MatParker117]

Sagand

 

[kareeem]

This is getting a bit ridiculous. Still, he looked very strong, arguably the strongest rider (could be Cancellara too).

 

[HelloDolly]

What matter the strongest...means nothing .....he was not the wnner...that is what counts

 

[kareeem]

Means nothing for this particular race, means a lot for future races.

 

[damian13ster]

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What matter the strongest...means nothing .....he was not the wnner...that is what counts

I am not even sure if he was the strongest. It was Cancellara, and Kwiatkowski was at least on par.
Fabian will put on a great show in the upcoming week!

 

[LaFlorecita]

I can't believe he didn't win. It's like there's a curse on him.

 

[Pippo_San]

There was this joke about Team Gadret.
Well let's reverse the joke cause now it really feels like there's this Team Sagan, always on his own, always without any kind of support: not before during the Cannondale days, not now during the Tinkoff days. Great empathy towards him.

 

[the asian]

I'm sure another 2nd place behind Spartacus awaits him at the Ronde.

 

[MatParker117]

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There was this joke about Team Gadret.
Well let's reverse the joke cause now it really feels like there's this Team Sagan, always on his own, always without any kind of support: not before during the Cannondale days, not now during the Tinkoff days. Great empathy towards him.

Wonder how things could of gone had that photo with Brailsford amounted to anything, Sagan with Sky's classics team could be something special.

 

[Gigs_98]

I think this was already his 6th 2nd place of the season. One in San Luis, 2 in Tirreno Adriatico + 2nd in the gc of that race, Omloop and now E3.
I also have to mention that only one of these 2nd places was the outcome of a bunch sprint so although we always talk about how bad his sprints are after a hard race its possible that he just became a by far worse sprinter.
Btw, does anyone know if he will maybe try the Amstel Gold Race this year? I think he should give it a try. Let his teammates attack so he doesnt have to chase anyone, then follow wheels on the Cauberg and then try to outsprint everyone. Matthews did the same last year and almost succeeded and I don't think Matthews is stronger on the Cauberg than Sagan considering that he was the only one who was able to follow Kwiat on the not cobbled "Karnemelkbeekstraat".

 

[hrotha]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sagan-is-only-lacking-a-bit-of-luck-says-gatto/

"After another disappointing showing at Milan-San Remo, he was burdened, too, by questions as to whether he had the legs and tactical acumen for Monument-length racing."

So even when he gets taken out of contention through no fault of his own (and should rather be applauded on his ability to stay upright), people (including CN writers) continue to bash him, classy.

It's not about bashing him, it's about not being blind to a very obvious trend the last 2-3 years of Sagan's career that should be thoroughly analyzed by him and his team if he's to ever fix it.

 

[killswitch]

Seems Libertine Seguros' witchcraft is more powerful than anyone could have ever imagined. Poor Sagan.

 

[Red Rick]

I think this was already his 6th 2nd place of the season. One in San Luis, 2 in Tirreno Adriatico + 2nd in the gc of that race, Omloop and now E3.
I also have to mention that only one of these 2nd places was the outcome of a bunch sprint so although we always talk about how bad his sprints are after a hard race its possible that he just became a by far worse sprinter.
Btw, does anyone know if he will maybe try the Amstel Gold Race this year? I think he should give it a try. Let his teammates attack so he doesnt have to chase anyone, then follow wheels on the Cauberg and then try to outsprint everyone. Matthews did the same last year and almost succeeded and I don't think Matthews is stronger on the Cauberg than Sagan considering that he was the only one who was able to follow Kwiat on the not cobbled "Karnemelkbeekstraat".

Didn't watch today, but there's really a climb called that?

 

[Isaak-Gabriel]

Check out the Quickstep's physiological tests in 2009, Kwiato was ahead of Sagan; often though that Sagan got lactates troubles in tough classics, to me it's more physical than psychological. His recovery in GT and one week stage races is great but he struggles to have a great endurance in diffucult one day races.

 

[Keram]

8th second place in world champ jersey. This is just too ridiculous I hope Gent-Wevelgem end in bunch sprint and Sagan will prove somehow that he can still decently sprint. I guess I will bet he will finish second

 

[Rollthedice]

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I can't believe he didn't win. It's like there's a curse on him.

Now it's a double curse, the last year one plus the rainbow jersey. Tough season ahead.

 

[Billie]

I think this was already his 6th 2nd place of the season. One in San Luis, 2 in Tirreno Adriatico + 2nd in the gc of that race, Omloop and now E3.
I also have to mention that only one of these 2nd places was the outcome of a bunch sprint so although we always talk about how bad his sprints are after a hard race its possible that he just became a by far worse sprinter.
Btw, does anyone know if he will maybe try the Amstel Gold Race this year? I think he should give it a try. Let his teammates attack so he doesnt have to chase anyone, then follow wheels on the Cauberg and then try to outsprint everyone. Matthews did the same last year and almost succeeded and I don't think Matthews is stronger on the Cauberg than Sagan considering that he was the only one who was able to follow Kwiat on the not cobbled "Karnemelkbeekstraat".

Didn't watch today, but there's really a climb called that?

yes. Backside of the Trieu/Knokteberg. It's the E3-col. Sagan is the strongest there every year

 

[TMP402]

 

[Jancouver]

I attacked several times and when we managed to escape so we worked together, but in the end I have been without power. "Kwiatek" was stronger than me today. I think, I did a lot of good work and in the finals I did not have good legs. I'm happy how this was done, I was in front and I did not crash. According to the assumptions I am faster, but after a race like this, everything is different. In the last two kilometers the group was closing behind and I pulled a lot on the front. In the finale I ran out of legs.

 

[Metabolol]

I'm wondering if radio communication messes up his instincts and timing.

 

[dacooley]

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lol, it seems to me rainbow jersey immobilizes peter in a way at the most decisive moments. still expect a monument win from him _O_

 

[MatParker117]

Boy did he need that one.

 

[Matteo.]

well deserved, finally

 

[Cance > TheRest]

Very complete performance from Peter today, matching Fabian on Kemmelberg, taking his share of the work (along with Fabian only) and winning a sprint. Big congratulations!