He should start off by doing like Greg and race Amstel after Roubaix. No reason for him to not do that. He should then also be able to better evaluate if it makes sense to start in Liege.
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It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
I think Nibali wants an Italy train going hard from the beginning so after 250 kms he can drop everyone in diesel mode before the last ramp. In this scenario Sagan will be nowhere near the front already with 100 kms to go.Tonton said:It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
Netserk said:He should start off by doing like Greg and race Amstel after Roubaix. No reason for him to not do that. He should then also be able to better evaluate if it makes sense to start in Liege.
In the same interview he said he's 78-79 when he's in top shape.Pennino said:He's definitely not 80kg. Just around 75kg. I think he could win all monuments, but not without many things playing into his hands.
Pennino said:He's definitely not 80kg. Just around 75kg. I think he could win all monuments, but not without many things playing into his hands.
Nirvana said:I think Nibali wants an Italy train going hard from the beginning so after 250 kms he can drop everyone in diesel mode before the last ramp. In this scenario Sagan will be nowhere near the front already with 100 kms to go.Tonton said:It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
Tonton said:It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
not if they will all be waiting till last climb to actually start racingRollthedice said:Tonton said:It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
Short climbs? 7 times 7km at 6%. Strong riders, climbers, will drop like flies long before the murito. Innsbruck was designed to take the rainbow jersey off Sagan.
Rollthedice said:Tonton said:It remains to be seen. I have always thought that he can win ALL the monuments. The next RRWC? It depends on how it's raced. The climbs are real, but short. Downhill and flat to the finish. It's like Dumoulin in a GT...if you don't put him away in the climbs and keep racing hard, he'll get ya'...Nirvana said:I don't think he would have any problems in Ardennes, i always thought that he has more chances in Liege than in Roubaix, flat cobbles don't suit him well like Flanders walls.
Anyway Insbruck will be way too hard for him, i think his actual limit could be an easy Lombardia. If is true that now he's 80 kilos (as he said) he's 7/8 kilos heavyer than his Cannondale and also Tinkoff days so we can't expect anymore climbing performances like 2015 Mt. Baldy.
Short climbs? 7 times 7km at 6%. Strong riders, climbers, will drop like flies long before the murito. Innsbruck was designed to take the rainbow jersey off Sagan.
Pretty sure it will be too hard for Kwito as well unless he is in godlike TdF-shape. Which he obviously had big troubles being after two big peaks. I think Giro riders who stagehunt in the Vuelta will be the best prepared ones - Aru, Pinot, Chaves..Red Rick said:I'm sure he'll try for Innsbruck, mostly because there's big racing he's sacrificing his chances for by trying to improve his climbing. On the other hand, if he sacrifices his sprint a bit he'll have major issues with Kwiatkowski
That's a good point. Kwiatkowski will have to slave away in the Tour. Many of the top climbers will have to be on a 2nd peak. Valverde would be smart to forego the GC in the Tour.Valv.Piti said:Pretty sure it will be too hard for Kwito as well unless he is in godlike TdF-shape. Which he obviously had big troubles being after two big peaks. I think Giro riders who stagehunt in the Vuelta will be the best prepared ones - Aru, Pinot, Chaves..Red Rick said:I'm sure he'll try for Innsbruck, mostly because there's big racing he's sacrificing his chances for by trying to improve his climbing. On the other hand, if he sacrifices his sprint a bit he'll have major issues with Kwiatkowski
Like in Rio? GVA was still there. And won. So Sagan can win.Nirvana said:In normal circustances probably there are at least a dozen of riders that he can't drop but after 250 kms of hard racing it's different, Nibali becomes stronger than riders usually better than him when is an hard and long race.
Tonton said:Like in Rio? GVA was still there. And won. So Sagan can win.Nirvana said:In normal circustances probably there are at least a dozen of riders that he can't drop but after 250 kms of hard racing it's different, Nibali becomes stronger than riders usually better than him when is an hard and long race.