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Why are you suggesting that women are so weak that they can't stand up for themselves when someone is mistreating them and need other men to protect them? How sexist is that?Cowgirlup said:I love to see other men, his team mates, friends etc say to him "Dude, what you did was crappy, you shouldn't ever do that mate"
I like to see other men in general (eg this forum) see his behaviour as crappy and not a joke and not "boys being boys" and not make excuses for him.
Fair points.Cowgirlup said:I'd just like to him to not ever do it again. I'd like him to really sincerely apologise and truly understand that he has no right to do what he did. I mean, not just apologise because the public is in an uproar, but really see that what he did was a ****ty thing to do.
I love to see other men, his team mates, friends etc say to him "Dude, what you did was crappy, you shouldn't ever do that mate"
I like to see other men in general (eg this forum) see his behaviour as crappy and not a joke and not "boys being boys" and not make excuses for him.
To facilitate change, you just need people to stand up and say "stop doing that, it is inappropriate" and not think it is a joke.
it's easy, just don't pinch a womens **** unless she gives you direct permission. How hard is that?
About 27, by most men's experience I think.saunaking said:Question: At what age does one stop being a 'kid' and become an adult?
Well said. The culture of complaint. She makes a complaint, he faces the music. Maybe he apologised after the podium ? Maybe she saw it as a bit of silliness and was not offended ? Personality, what is that ? It is so rare to see it these days in public that when you do see or hear something genuine, it is startling. The guy has always been a prankster. Yawn. Maybe this will make someone's Years Most Shocking list or some such along with Celebrity Sweat Marks On The Red Carpet. Life in the 21st Century........willbick said:Kinda depressing that anyone showing signs of having a personality nowadays is castigated, mainly in the name of hyping up a 'news story'/'controversy'. Celebrate victory in a silly fashion? Disrespecting the opposition. Playfully pinch a podium girl's ****? Disrespecting the female gender. Its a wonder anyone does anything...
cav is married and has a baby at homehappychappy said:If Cavendish had done this some of you chaps would be worked up into such an outraged frenzy this topic would already have got to 50 pages.
Firstly - wow Caruut - you made me post hereCaruut said:The fact that she's being paid to be there makes it all the worse. If it's, say, at a bus-stop or in a shop then she can reasonably turn around and say "Get your hands off me, you ****". In this situation, she's essentially powerless to do anything at all at the time.
I voted option 2. Even though I think it's really not okay to do that, I think it's worth noting that Sagan is relatively young, lives a pretty sheltered lifestyle and has got where he is because of his legs, not his head. The way we talk about him sometimes, it's no wonder the guy acts like he's not in the real world once in a while.
It reminds me of something the often offensive and occasionally incredibly perceptive comic Frankie Boyle said about Cristiano Ronaldo: "Of course he lacks perspective. He's been treated like he's better than everyone else since the age of about 8 simply for having incredibly well-coordinated feet. It's a wonder he hasn't killed someone."
Yes, it's inappropriate, but people are a product of the societies they are in. In Peter Sagan's world he's treated like royalty, he probably has quite a lot of success with women when he's not groping them in public and he also, by winning lots of bike races, ends up spending a lot of time around podium girls who are treated like pieces of meat, not good for anything but looking pretty.
I think that's the real issue that this has raised. Why are we so surprised that, when we maintain a tradition like having podium that looks at those girls as nothing but objects, someone ends up treating them like objects? In my opinion, podium girls don't really belong in the 21st century, and when things like this happen the culture that tolerates them is more to blame than the individual.
Back to the individual in question, it's worth noting that he almost certainly didn't mean any harm. The fact that a guy can do that and think it's harmless fun is, in my view, a problem with society, but Peter Sagan is not to blame for all of society's ills, no matter how silly you think he finish-line celebrations can be.
Why are you suggesting that women are so weak that they can't stand up for themselves when someone is mistreating them and need other men to protect them? How sexist is that?
Thank you for such an enlightening answer. You truly opened my eyes.Cowgirlup said:The stupid hurts
You're welcomeThank you for such an enlightening answer. You truly opened my eyes.
Well said!Caruut said:Yes, it's inappropriate, but people are a product of the societies they are in. In Peter Sagan's world he's treated like royalty, he probably has quite a lot of success with women when he's not groping them in public and he also, by winning lots of bike races, ends up spending a lot of time around podium girls who are treated like pieces of meat, not good for anything but looking pretty.
I think that's the real issue that this has raised. Why are we so surprised that, when we maintain a tradition like having podium that looks at those girls as nothing but objects, someone ends up treating them like objects? In my opinion, podium girls don't really belong in the 21st century, and when things like this happen the culture that tolerates them is more to blame than the individual.
Back to the individual in question, it's worth noting that he almost certainly didn't mean any harm. The fact that a guy can do that and think it's harmless fun is, in my view, a problem with society, but Peter Sagan is not to blame for all of society's ills, no matter how silly you think he finish-line celebrations can be.
How many sagans does a perfect woman score?saganftw said:soooo in the light of recent events i suggest a measure of podium girl hotness to be a "Sagan"
blond is not my kind of woman,so id give that podium girl 5 Sagans tops![]()
to make it simple 10 is a good number with possibility to be off scale if you are reeeeeealy into herbissib said:How many sagans does a perfect woman score?
I consider what Sagan did funny, but had she slapped him, it would have been much much funnier. He deserved it too.pugdog said:I wonder what the reaction would have been if the podium girl had turned around and slapped him?
I assume she would have lost her job.
I agree. What Sagan did was just stupid and childish. But then people come with replies like this:hrotha said:Honestly I'm more appalled by those who defend him than by what he did.
Seriously? Groping a women is showing a sign of having a personality? Quite the opposite as far as I'm concerned.....willbick said:Kinda depressing that anyone showing signs of having a personality nowadays is castigated,
Some guy on an Internet forum thinks less of me? Oh sh*t... I really screwed up this time, didn't I?spalco said:I think less of everyone who voted for one of the bottom two options. Just disgusting.
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