Power Data Estimates for the climbing stages

[Saint Unix]

3:50
4:04
3:24
2:58
4:54
3:14
2:24
3:06
3:10
3:10
1:58

For future reference, a summary like this should probably be paired with the average gradient for each individual km. The final kms are all pretty evenly flat, and they were over a minute slower there than in the final km, and slower even than on the steeper portions beforehand. Even if we factor in the sprint it shows some pretty significant soft-pedalling on the flatter sections.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

 

[Red Rick]

What's Kruijswijks weight?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

64kg

 

[bjbest]

Re:

Using that 64 Kg figure and the published power numbers (above), the results from Stage 15 were telling. The GC battle was on during the final climb. Kruijswijk held 6.3 W/Kg for 33m54s, which means so did the small group he finished with (all finished within a handful of seconds of each other):

2 Miguel Angel Lopez (Col) Astana Pro Team 0:00:28
3 Simon Yates (GBr) Mitchelton-Scott 0:00:30
4 Alejandro Valverde (Spa) Movistar Team 0:00:32
5 Steven Kruijswijk (Ned) LottoNL-Jumbo
6 Enric Mas (Spa) Quick-Step Floors 0:00:34
7 Nairo Quintana (Col) Movistar Team

Thibaut Pinot got away on the climb and finished alone ahead of the rest (and presumably had a slightly higher power to weight ratio):

1 Thibaut Pinot (Fra) Groupama-FDJ 5:01:49

 

[Cookster15]

Surely Lopez's climbing speed today is worth a comment?

8.8km @6.6% climbed at 25.4km/h ? Clinic has gone to sleep it needs to wake up.

 

[rick james]

He’s not British so they don’t care

 

[IndianCyclist]

Re:

Surely Lopez's climbing speed today is worth a comment?

8.8km @6.6% climbed at 25.4km/h ? Clinic has gone to sleep it needs to wake up.

He's in Astana which has a rich history

 

[zenoiz]

Nairo crushes the Galibier!
http://www.climbing-records.com/2019/07/nairo-destroys-galibier-record.html
Impressive, given this was from a breakaway and the third climb on a long, hot stage mostly at altitude. The Quintana group rode the Izoard a lot slower than the GC guys, so he probably was keeping a lot in reserve there, and of course, there was a tailwind on Galibier...

 

[Cookster15]

Re:

Nairo crushes the Galibier!
http://www.climbing-records.com/2019/07/nairo-destroys-galibier-record.html
Impressive, given this was from a breakaway and the third climb on a long, hot stage mostly at altitude. The Quintana group rode the Izoard a lot slower than the GC guys, so he probably was keeping a lot in reserve there, and of course, there was a tailwind on Galibier...

Yes. Also impressive as I keep reading comments that he has under performed since 2016 after beating Froome in the Vuelta or that he should not train in Colombia. Demolished a few myths in today's ride, Galibier tailwind or not. Good on him! I hope he can do his record better justice in his new team that would be great retribution.

 

[proffate]

So apparently just to make the breakaway at the vuelta you have to crank over 6 w/kg for 20 minutes? That's surprising to me. (Most of the time on this forum we only hear about the GC guys.)

Power analysis: Sepp Kuss's stage 15 win at the Vuelta

We examined Sepp Kuss's power data from his victory on stage 15 of the Vuelta a España. Kuss was calm during the race's midpoint before unleashing a sustained surge of power on the final climb.

www.velonews.com

 

[Escarabajo]

So apparently just to make the breakaway at the vuelta you have to crank over 6 w/kg for 20 minutes? That's surprising to me. (Most of the time on this forum we only hear about the GC guys.)

Power analysis: Sepp Kuss's stage 15 win at the Vuelta

We examined Sepp Kuss's power data from his victory on stage 15 of the Vuelta a España. Kuss was calm during the race's midpoint before unleashing a sustained surge of power on the final climb.

www.velonews.com

Not for 20 minutes. For this time many riders have done it in the WT.

 

[Red Rick]

So what am I reading about Quitnana doing 6.8W/kg on the Ventoux yesterday lol.

 

[SafeBet]

How many comparable performances on a 30 minute effort in the post Puerto era?

 

[RunningRouleur]

Contador on Verbier is the only one that comes to mind for me... and that’s a shorter climb...

 

[Lequack]

So what am I reading about Quitnana doing 6.8W/kg on the Ventoux yesterday lol.

For half an hour as well. I guess he is now the Tour favorite for July.

 

[roundabout]

How many comparable performances on a 30 minute effort in the post Puerto era?

Porte and Froome on the Madone at a lower elevation

 

[Invicituz]

Indeed, Quintana’s time today of 28:05 – some 15 seconds faster than Pantani’s – is the only time in the top 16 that wasn’t set at the Tour de France.

Mont Ventoux Chalet Reynard 9.5km

1. Nairo Quintana Tour de la Provence 2020 (#3) 28’05

Previous top 15

1. Marco Pantani Tour de France 1994 (#15) 28’20
2. Miguel Indurain Tour de France 1994 (#15) 28’58
3. Lance Armstrong Tour de France 2002 (#14) 30’40
4. Christopher Froome Tour de France 2013 (#15) 30’53
5. Nairo Quintana Tour de France 2013 (#15) 30’53
6. Alberto Contador Tour de France 2009 (#20) 31’06
7. Andy Schleck Tour de France 2009 (#20) 31’06
8. Alberto Contador Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’13
9. Jakob Fuglsang Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’50
10. Jean-Christophe Péraud Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’50
11. Joaquim Rodriguez Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’50
12. Bauke Mollema Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’50
13. Roman Kreuziger Tour de France 2013 (#15) 31’50
14. Alejandro Valverde Tour de France 2013 (#15) 32’00
15. Dan Martin Tour de France 2013 (#15) 32’10

http://www.stickybottle.com/latest-...record-time-beats-pantani-indurain-armstrong/

 

[del1962]

How many of the above actually finished at Chalet Reynard

 

[F_Cance]

The times are wrong. Mollema 2016 had a time of ~29:20. Was a stage to to Chalet Reynard

 

[del1962]

The times are wrong. Mollema 2016 had a time of ~29:20. Was a stage to to Chalet Reynard

And that is with getting caught in a crash

 

[The Hegelian]

The other day I watched a clip of Vandenbroeke climbing in the big ring in the '99 Vuelta. And I had the thought: 'this was better.'

A nuclear Quintana....can't help but think: yes, bring it on.

 

[proffate]

How many of the above actually finished at Chalet Reynard

The 1994 tdf stage went all the way over ventoux and finished after a descent. Pantani attacked the GC group before Chalet Reynard, but you're right, it's not a fair comparison since Pantani et al had to keep going for another 6km.

Some sources claim a tailwind, but Iljo Keisse tweeted no wind. Where exactly did 6.8 come from, was it calculated or measured?

 

[Le breton]

Some sources claim a tailwind, but Iljo Keisse tweeted no wind. Where exactly did 6.8 come from, was it calculated or measured?

That part on Ventoux being in a forest doesn't usually have much wind, at best a very slight uphill draft due to thermal effects. I'm not at home and don't have here all the information needed for a more accurate calculation, but using what I have I get about 6.65 W/kg for Quintana.

 

[Red Rick]

And now we have Adam Yates winning by minutes on an average climb.