Power Data Estimates for the climbing stages

[Red Rick]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1318598906624749568

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1318598906624749568

https://twitter.com/x/status/1318638905172938757

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1318638905172938757


Not a huge time at all, but it looked like headwind and overall shitty weather to me. Kuss power is still pretty big, depending on his actual weight.

 

[Simurgh]

PASSO DELLO STELVIO 24.45 km, 7.57 %, 1851 m

1:11:08 | Dennis, T.G.Hart, Hindley
1:11:57 | Kelderman (+0:49)
1:12:55 | Bilbao, Fuglsang (+1:47)
1:13:42 | V.Nibali (+2:34)
1:14:50 | Almeida, Konrad, Pernsteiner (+3:42)
1:14:55 | Majka (+3:47)

source:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1319347395474456578

View: https://twitter.com/ammattipyoraily/status/1319347395474456578

 

[Forever The Best]

It is also the new record:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1319363383259516928

View: https://twitter.com/faustocoppi60/status/1319363383259516928

 

[luckyboy]

They only climbed this side of the Stelvio in 1980, 1994 and 2005, not in 2012, 2014 or 2017...

I can't see any full video of the climb (Youtube has 2005 from Trafoi only) anywhere so I guess it's a record in that sense.

 

[Forever The Best]

Yeah it was mainly in response to 2005. But I didn't know it didn't have a full climbing time.

 

[roundabout]

5 minutes faster on the Trafoi-top segment than 2005 supposedly. No way for me to verify as the only video on youtube of 2005 that I found makes my eyes bleed because of the picture quality

 

[Forever The Best]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1319379761605607424

View: https://twitter.com/lapreuvepar21/status/1319379761605607424

 

[PhiLiz]

They only climbed this side of the Stelvio in 1980, 1994 and 2005, not in 2012, 2014 or 2017...

I can't see any full video of the climb (Youtube has 2005 from Trafoi only) anywhere so I guess it's a record in that sense.

Please , just take a look at the guys who did well in 2005 and 1994. It's a really funny exercise.

 

[el_angliru]

The 1994 Giro had a pretty strong line-up! The top 5 gc that year were Berzin, Pantani, Indurain, Chiapucci, Tonkov. And if we throw in Bugno and Hampsten, who were both top 10 that year, then it's 7 riders who eventually shared 32 GT podiums - all of them except Chiapucci with GT wins!

It was near the peak of the EPO era and it would have been interesting to see what they could do on the Stelvio ascent. But Stelvio was the 1st climb of the stage so it was not a GC battle and not really comparable to this year's Stelvio stage. Anyway, the performances yesterday were remrkable.

 

[PhiLiz]

I give you, a Dennis:

 

[Red Rick]

Lets give average wattage when there's descents in it. Velon is so dumb.

Anyway, Dennis almost as fast as Salvodelli in 2000. EPO era time.

 

[PhiLiz]

Lets give average wattage when there's descents in it. Velon is so dumb.

Anyway, Dennis almost as fast as Salvodelli in 2000. EPO era time.

Thought it was strange to give watts when it was mostly descent but that is even more amazing. I know Sestriere is an "easy" climb but while I was watching live, Dennis just kept going above 420 watts in the final ascent. After all that he had already done.

Has they removed descents it'd be even more amazing.

 

[Red Rick]

Thought it was strange to give watts when it was mostly descent but that is even more amazing. I know Sestriere is an "easy" climb but while I was watching live, Dennis just kept going above 420 watts in the final ascent. After all that he had already done.

Has they removed descents it'd be even more amazing.

Velon just excells at giving data that's useless. I wouldn't be surprised if Dennis can hold 360W for hours under different circumstances.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Lets give average wattage when there's descents in it. Velon is so dumb.

Anyway, Dennis almost as fast as Salvodelli in 2000. EPO era time.

Garzelli has the record, not il Falco. That was also stage 20, at the end of the Briancon - Sestriere ITT (over 61min for Savoldelli).

Also the third consecutive hard stage after a Pratonevoso MTF and A Saluzzo - Briancon stage with Agnello and Izoard before the final steel ramp up towards the old town of Briancon.
Back then the Italians really knew how to use the "home field advantage".

 

[Forever The Best]

Garzelli has the record, not il Falco. That was also stage 20, at the end of the Briancon - Sestriere ITT (over 61min for Savoldelli).

Also the third consecutive hard stage after a Pratonevoso MTF and A Saluzzo - Briancon stage with Agnello and Izoard before the final steel ramp up towards the old town of Briancon.
Back then the Italians really knew how to use the "home field advantage".

And once again the lead changed on the TT, as Casagrande lost the Giro to Garzelli.

 

[Mayomaniac]

So today was a really non 2020 ascent, a lot slower than the last La Covatilla ascent.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325123759947313152

2004 Santi is just wow...

 

[Scarponi]

So today was a really non 2020 ascent, a lot slower than the last La Covatilla ascent.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325123759947313152

2004 Santi is just wow...

Heras setting some dead-set unbeatable times like Pantani. Almost 2 minues faster wow

 

[Escarabajo]

So today was a really non 2020 ascent, a lot slower than the last La Covatilla ascent.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325123759947313152

2004 Santi is just wow...

Heras LOL.

 

[Escarabajo]

New record for Yates-Pogacar tandem in Jebel Hafeet today.

Faster and faster on Jebel Hafeet

© UAE Tour Jebel Hafeet 2021:10,9 km@6,8%---25:57---average speed 25.20 km/h(Pogacar-A.Yates)-RECORD 2020:10...

www.climbing-records.com

6.6 W/kg for Pogacar. Hope this story does not end bad. Very similar performance to Contador in Verbier in 2009.

 

[webvan]

Can't say for sure obviously but Pogacar is the real deal, always been talented, always will be, unlike some riders who came out of nowhere...and are back where they belong.

 

[F_Cance]

His progress is still ridiculous and we can't forget the history of the UAE staff. Definitely flying too high.

 

[webvan]

It's not ridiculous, he's still maturing as a rider, he's not even 22 and a half. The real champions like Lemond, Hinault or Fignon blew away the competition too at that age and they kept on improving for a few more years.

 

[Cookster15]

His progress is still ridiculous and we can't forget the history of the UAE staff. Definitely flying too high.

No. Pogi is very young. Everyone seems to forget he won ToC in May 2019 becoming the youngest rider to win a UCI world tour stage race.

His progression isn't a reason to point the finger. His climbing speeds might be. But today Yates was a little stronger.

 

[Netserk]

For a more accurate power estimation: Link to tweet

ammattipyöräily
@ammattipyoraily

Strava segment of Jebel Hafeet steep 7.23 km says Emanuel Buchmann at 376 W / 6.06 W/kg for 20:14. Tadej Pogacar 19:29, 0:45 faster than Buchmann. Assuming Pogacar is 4 kg heavier, then he produced 6.27 W/kg. 0.21 W/kg higher than Buchmann's W/kg. Gap was 0:48 at finish. #UAETour

10:06 pm · 23 Feb 2021·

So almost 6.3 W/kg for 20 minutes.

 

[Escarabajo]

Power numbers cannot tell you with accuracy if someone is doing something wrong. But it can tell you if the trends in cycling are going back to the old days. I just hope that some coaches and doctors are not taking advantage of the Covid situation to go full "pedal to the metal". UCI has been inept in the past, but surely they understood that the Armstrong situation is not good for anybody. They should start trying to control things if indeed something is going on in the peloton.