Power Data Estimates for the climbing stages

[More Strides than Rides]

I have not seen anything about wind on either day, but race situation could play a role. Basso was trying to win the Giro and went full gas. He crushed the field quickly and it was a mountain top finish. Contador still had another climb to go and was saving his matches.

Not for the climb itself, but for Pescara on Sunday:

And for May 15, 2006:

Now the data is from a station in Pescara, NE from the climb and on the coast. Don't know the area, but 54km away by car, or (guessing) 30k away as the crow flies. Still, if it is similar there, it was probably similar on the climb.

 

[Race Radio]

Not for the climb itself, but for Pescara on Sunday:

And for May 15, 2006:

Now the data is from a station in Pescara, NE from the climb and on the coast. Don't know the area, but 54km away by car, or (guessing) 30k away as the crow flies. Still, if it is similar there, it was probably similar on the climb.

Thanks,

There is a lot of terrain between Pescara and Lanciano so not sure if it is comparable

 

[Ferminal]

The day before, a poster in the race thread forecasted a tailwind, in saying that the favorites should attack and not look at each other.

I remember seeing it and thinking about that this very discussion would happen.

Yeh, was me.

http://www.snow-forecast.com/resorts/PassoLanciano-Majelletta/6day/bot

Was 5kmh, NNW or something around there.

 

[trevim]

Unless there is a measurement of the wind speed and direction on the climb at the hour of the race, there's no point in trying too look at data from meteorological stations. Too many variables. It's quite a fast time though.

 

[thehog]

The most awesome VeeToo tweet form all time!

@ammattipyoraily: @BrianCooksonUCI Saumont climb (6.45 km, 6.78 %, 437 m [541 m → 978 m])
Brian Cookson: 34 min 09 sec, 11.33 Kph, VAM 768 m/h



That VAM is suspect.

 

[the sceptic]

The most awesome VeeToo tweet form all time!

@ammattipyoraily: @BrianCooksonUCI Saumont climb (6.45 km, 6.78 %, 437 m [541 m → 978 m])
Brian Cookson: 34 min 09 sec, 11.33 Kph, VAM 768 m/h



That VAM is suspect.

now we just need to figure out his weight.

 

[Benotti69]

Thanks,

There is a lot of terrain between Pescara and Lanciano so not sure if it is comparable

Passo Lanciano is not far from Pescara. I know it well. You can stand on one side of Passo Lanciano facing the sea and Pescara is easily seen on the coast. There are no mountains or hills blocking the view. But the side climbed in TA is not on the coastal side. So wind readings from Pescara not applicable. Weather readings from Chieti would be closest.

 

[thehog]

now we just need to figure out his weight.

He'll never reveal amount of chicken kebabs consumed.

Ci troviamo a un bivio!

 

[Race Radio]

From today's stage

‏@ammattipyoraily
#VoltaCatalunya, Stage 4. Tejay van Garderen's estimated power output on MTF Vallter 2000: 5.35 - 5.50 W/kg.

‏@romainbardet
@ammattipyoraily Good analysis, close to the truth

 

[karlboss]

now we just need to figure out his weight.

75 kilograms

 

[Race Radio]

Passo Lanciano is not far from Pescara. I know it well. You can stand on one side of Passo Lanciano facing the sea and Pescara is easily seen on the coast. There are no mountains or hills blocking the view. But the side climbed in TA is not on the coastal side. So wind readings from Pescara not applicable. Weather readings from Chieti would be closest.

You are right, I mixed up the location. For some reason was thinking of the Marche region north of that.

 

[Parrulo]

How did Frank and Peraud do compared to Froome last year on CI?

 

[Ferminal]

They are better, just like Horner.

 

[David_William]

Yeah i would like some calculations to see where Machado is right now. His goal is TdF and he is at a decent level already

 

[roundabout]

How did Frank and Peraud do compared to Froome last year on CI?

2010 Fedrigo 26:46
2011 F.Schleck 25:15
2012 Fedrigo 25:23
2013 Froome 25:37
2014 Frank,Peraud 25:32

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[trevim]

2010 Fedrigo 26:46
2011 F.Schleck 25:15
2012 Fedrigo 25:23
2013 Froome 25:37
2014 Frank,Peraud 25:32

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Last year's weather was crap though.

 

[del1962]

Last year's weather was crap though.

Peraud beats Froome's time, must have been a tailwind

 

[Parrulo]

Peraud beats Froome's time, must have been a tailwind

Or he just didn't have some extremely crappy weather.

 

[jens_attacks]

the full climb:

2014:14,2 km@6,2%---33:45---average speed 25.24 km/h(Frank-Peraud)
2013:14,2 km@6,2%---33:36---average speed 25.36 km/h(Chris Froome)

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/03/matthias-frank-and-peraud-win-on.html

yep yep yep nice weather and tailwind. but they were doing trackstands, peraud was doing at one moment what riis did in '96 looking everybody on the eyes while letting him slip backwards. never went full gas.
bring on pais vasco! brown power!

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

Thanks for the info JA, much obliged. To be fair, when Matthias is in the front group one knows the pace can be higher.

 

[Netserk]

the full climb:

2014:14,2 km@6,2%---33:45---average speed 25.24 km/h(Frank-Peraud)
2013:14,2 km@6,2%---33:36---average speed 25.36 km/h(Chris Froome)

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/03/matthias-frank-and-peraud-win-on.html

yep yep yep nice weather and tailwind. but they were doing trackstands, peraud was doing at one moment what riis did in '96 looking everybody on the eyes while letting him slip backwards. never went full gas.
bring on pais vasco! brown power!

Nice 10.000th post

 

[More Strides than Rides]

Last year: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwzfWal4kE4

 

[jens_attacks]

Nice 10.000th post

this was the one? i thought true detective gifs would have been more appropriate. i ruined the moment damn it

 

[David_William]

Not surprising. Problem with Machado is that overtrains and then in the races he is just dead. He was doing 7w/kg efforts at Serra Estrela just days before...

 

[Ripper]

the full climb:

2014:14,2 km@6,2%---33:45---average speed 25.24 km/h(Frank-Peraud)
2013:14,2 km@6,2%---33:36---average speed 25.36 km/h(Chris Froome)

http://www.climbing-records.com/2014/03/matthias-frank-and-peraud-win-on.html

yep yep yep nice weather and tailwind. but they were doing trackstands, peraud was doing at one moment what riis did in '96 looking everybody on the eyes while letting him slip backwards. never went full gas.
bring on pais vasco! brown power!

How about the last 5-5.5 km? That's where Froome got tired of waiting around!