Pro Cycling Manager - anyone played it

[The Hitch]

Training camps.

Do you actually play this game, Hitch?

Ive played 3 months of my first season, so I havent even done a gt yet and only 1 classic. When is the best time to do this training camp before a gt? The month before?

 

[hrotha]

Ive played 3 months of my first season, so I havent even done a gt yet and only 1 classic. When is the best time to do this training camp before a gt? The month before?

Yeah but the training camps are right there even if you don't use them, they're not hard to spot. Anyway, I think the effects last for 2 months or so? So you can plan different 10-day camps, for the mountains, the hills and the TTs, depending on the course and how good your riders are at anything.

But you shouldn't use training camps. It's lame. It gives you a huge advantage over the AI. I once did a season with Spidertech where all my riders were trained to the gills, I focused on training for the hills, everybody was either at a camp or racing at any point of the season. It was fun as a gimmick, but it was completely silly, unless you see Lucas Euser as Gilbert's heir.

 

[maltiv]

Ive played 3 months of my first season, so I havent even done a gt yet and only 1 classic. When is the best time to do this training camp before a gt? The month before?

Just don't, the game is no fun anymore when you win the giro overall+9 stages with an EBH doped to the max with training camps. It's just ridiculous that you can gain like 5-6 more points in mountain, hills and TT.

I only use training camps on riders whom are given way too bad stats (which I have forgotten to DB edit), such as Froome who has like 70 mountain and 68 TT

 

[Ferminal]

Can you stack training camps? I thought you could only do one of each type, giving you the 1-2 point gain or whatever it is.

 

[Parrulo]

i remember on cycling manager 2004 taking menchov to the giro with 99 climbing

with paulinho and nuno ribeiro as his domestiques with like 88 climbing each. . .

is just no fun to use camps.

 

[Parrulo]

Can you stack training camps? I thought you could only do one of each type, giving you the 1-2 point gain or whatever it is.

you can use as many as you like, all you need is money to pay for the "hotel" the point increases changes with the time you stay. there more time you stay the more will your stats increase. i only used training camps in CM 2004 but a max time training camp would give you a 5 or 6 points gain iirc

talking about CM 2004 i just reminded myself of the most epic moment ever riding P-R with team mobile. it was an awful weather and at 90k to go or something to go every1 cept 8 riders fell and all abandoned the race(ya even i was surprised lol) in those 8 riders i had 4(zabel, klier, woseman(sp?) and ivanov) and the other 4 were domestiques for top names that had dropped out anyway never was P-R so easy to win as that time

 

[maltiv]

Can you stack training camps? I thought you could only do one of each type, giving you the 1-2 point gain or whatever it is.

If you take them for about 10 days they get much more than that, particularly if their skill isn't so high already. You obviously won't get someone with 80 mountain up to much more than 82 or so (still a huge difference though), but you can get 71 mountain up to 76.

 

[Parrulo]

If you take them for about 10 days they get much more than that, particularly if their skill isn't so high already. You obviously won't get someone with 80 mountain up to much more than 82 or so (still a huge difference though), but you can get 71 mountain up to 76.

seems like they changed the system since the last time i used it. . .

 

[Ferminal]

If you take them for about 10 days they get much more than that, particularly if their skill isn't so high already. You obviously won't get someone with 80 mountain up to much more than 82 or so (still a huge difference though), but you can get 71 mountain up to 76.

I see, I've only used them a couple of times and never really looked at the stats change from the lesser riders.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Just don't, the game is no fun anymore when you win the giro overall+9 stages with an EBH doped to the max with training camps. It's just ridiculous that you can gain like 5-6 more points in mountain, hills and TT.

I only use training camps on riders whom are given way too bad stats (which I have forgotten to DB edit), such as Froome who has like 70 mountain and 68 TT

pretty sure you can a mid-game editor (like fast editor) maybe to fix stupid rider scores in game.

I hate when I start a new game and a see a rider with an insanely stupid score.

and yes the training camp is seriously doping.

I will only ever use it before a GT for like 3-4 days. Maybe gaining a single point, which is realistic imo.

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ANyway I just did my first season, with a custom team.

My Team:
Dutch Contingent: Poels, Dekker, Slagter, Kelderman, Markus, Van Poppel, Stamsnijder, De Kort, Dumoulin, M. Kreder, W.Kreder, R.Kreder + 3 scouted
talents.
Portuguese Contingent: Machado, Costa, Pinto, Rodriguez, Caldiera.

I had a pretty good season, I rode a heavy first have season and very light 2nd half season. Had enough points for WT status by july anyway.
We secured 1st place on the cont. tour ahead of skil.

Notable Victories:

Machado:
Le Tour de Langkawi
Portugal ITT champ
-Also took quite a few high placings in the early stage races. And a disappointing 4th place at the volta. (they were too fatigued)

Poels:
GP di Lugano
Stage wins in many races
Vuelta la region de Murica
Tour of Mediterranian
Giro di Sardegna
- Multiple smaller classic podiums and stage race podiums.
-Ended up 3rd on cont tour ranking.

Costa:
Volta ao Algarve (x3 stages)
Stage wins in many races
-2nd @ criterium international
-Podium in heaps of stage races and smaller one day races
-Ended up 2nd on cont tour.

Dekker:
Rund um Kolm
Giro dell'appennino
Tour du Finistere
Dutch ITT champ
- Podiums in stage races and smaller one day races

Other Wins:
Pinto: Klassika Primevera
Koen de Kort: Tour du haut var
Wes. Kreder: Albert... Van Drenthe

WT Wildcard Results:

tirreno-Adriatico:
dekker @ 2nd overall
poels @ 7th overall + stage win
costa @ stage win

AGR:
dekker @ 4th

MSR:
I actually won this race with poels, but the game crashed afterwards and I had to race again, I was annoyed so I just simulated and failed.

FW
huge fail

L-B-L - Must be noted I simulated this race, I lost hope after FW.. for this season. But then...

Poels@ 1st

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Overall a pretty okay season.

I also acquired the following talent for season 2 (needed some cobble men) in the WT:
Boom (Ned and Ned rr champ) Mollema (Ned) Van Winden (Ned) Tjallingii (Ned) Veelers (Ned) Van Leijen (Ned) Viela (Por and Por rr champ) Vital (por)

 

[Parrulo]

nice to see you using some portuguese talents timmy.

are you using the original DB?

also thats a very nice first season i must say

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Just the latest pcmdaily database . And then i made more edits myself . I didn't change riders to my favor Aka makes poels 99 hills , but just made edits which annoyed me . I also made gilbet 85 I'n hills amd likewise for Ac I'n the mountains. I wanted to make them really hard to beat

 

[Michielveedeebee]

I also made gilbet 85 I'n hills amd likewise for Ac I'n the mountains. I wanted to make them really hard to beat

exactly what I did but then again, I play with Gilbert and he's just unbeatable

If you take them for about 10 days they get much more than that, particularly if their skill isn't so high already. You obviously won't get someone with 80 mountain up to much more than 82 or so (still a huge difference though), but you can get 71 mountain up to 76.

VdB went from 81 to 83 and De Greef from 72 to 77 with me or so

 

[Midnightfright]

exactly what I did but then again, I play with Gilbert and he's just unbeatable


VdB went from 81 to 83 and De Greef from 72 to 77 with me or so

I like to keep it as realistic as possible that's why I changed Andy Engels stats to 84 mountain, 82 hills, 82 TT, 84 cobbles, 79 flat, 81 sprint, 80 stamina, 84 recovery and 85 stamina. if it was for valverde he would everything.

 

[ramjambunath]

Can the free cam's angle be changed by keyboard? I don't have the middle button on the mouse.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You don't need the middle mouse button

Just use alt+left mouse button

 

[Havetts]

Oh you people (ab)using training camps !

 

[Michielveedeebee]

I like to keep it as realistic as possible that's why I changed Andy Engels stats to 84 mountain, 82 hills, 82 TT, 84 cobbles, 79 flat, 81 sprint, 80 stamina, 84 recovery and 85 stamina. if it was for valverde he would everything.

hey VdB went up to 83 during training camps, not because of a database change

And Philbert is as good as unbeatable on hills ==> 85 hills

 

[Midnightfright]

hey VdB went up to 83 during training camps, not because of a database change

And Philbert is as good as unbeatable on hills ==> 85 hills

I was only joking, I think VdB is 83 mountains as well actually. And if Philbert is 85 mountains no one should be.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

2012 having up and downs.

other then omloop i have simulated the majority of the non-wt races and even some wt races.

So far simulated:

boom: 1st @kbk, 7th @dvv, 10th @e3, 5th @e3
fail @basque @romandie
dekker wins criterium int
a few other decent results (rode minimal non-wt races)

what I have raced:

TA: 5th w/ dekker (terrible parcours -- no decisive stage)
PN: 3rd w/ costa
msr = fail.
omloop = boom @3rd.
flanders = boom @7th
PN = boom @5th
AGR = 4th dekker
FW = 6th dekker
LBL = 3rd dekker

I put great emphasis into my GTs this year. so far I have only raced the giro.

Machado took 4th overall. Unlucky in the sense that he lost 5 minutes on a flat stage i simulated, but he was 6-7 minutes behind 3rd place anyway.
Costa won 3 stages and crashed out on stage 17.
Lucky in the sense mosquera crashed out in 4th place on stage 16.

Nibbles won over rujano by 10 seconds (who took the pink on stage 19 and lost in the itt the next day). Gesink 2 minutes behind in 3rd. With machado about 10 minutes behind in 4th

Kelderman is showing solid progress. He is @ 76 mountains. Looking good for his debut GT (have him doing a really light season) @ vuelta.
Poels has had a disappointing season.

I am now simulating my way to the tour, as I can't be bothered racing suisse or dauphine (not racing for win, but form).

 

[Havetts]

Got second in the Giro on normal difficulty with Fuglsang- 76 climbing, no mountain support as Pinot, Quintana & Rui Costa, who were all planned for the Giro as support goti njured and had no form.

Was a bit lucky, on the day to Sestriere Cunego crashed out with a broken collarbone when he was in the lead of the race.

 

[Havetts]

Question how do you improve descending by training? What do you have to select as the 'thing' to train?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

In sta_training_exercise you can see which training types improve downhilling. I think it was climbers, ardennes types etc

 

[Havetts]

What do you mean by sta_training_exercise, some file in the pcm folder?

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Question how do you improve descending by training? What do you have to select as the 'thing' to train?

Think it's climbing and tours you have to train for that...