Pro Cycling Manager - anyone played it

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Have you ever heard of http://www.ppdb.nl?

If you want proper stats that's the place to be. Ofcourse sometimes even Plakker misses some guys (f.ex Jeanneson still had awful stats), but most of the times 99% is updated and correct

never heard of it, I will have to check it out.
It is pretty bad that the official game DB is so wrong.

thanks man.

 

[Armchair Cyclist]

I have a career underway in PCM2010, but am interested in the different gameplay of PCM'11. Can the new version continue saved games from previous versions? If not, I'd rather see if I can win again some of the races I have previously won, or improve on my Tour and Giro placings from previous years.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

in the DP V1 update they are pretty good. think machado is near 75.

even pinto aint bad.

anyway if riders stats **** me off I ussually update them myself (after d/loading the daily peloton one)

I also got benat intxausti.

Truth be told in pcm, i love racing some off the historic conti races and trying to win. I plan on making machado dominate the volta. Not sure if the pcm boys added colombia but I might try that too with rujano (after he attempts giro of course, the only GT i wanna apply for a wildcard for in my first year).


I plan on not extending rujano's contract and allowing the dutch riders to become leader in year two. Kelderman has pretty nuce stats in the update and a big potential rating.

Also I have big plans for my Portuguese riders

http://pcmdaily.com/infusions/pro_download_panel/download.php?did=819

this one timmy ?

EDIT: couldn't believe it
Moreno cheering too soon and losing the stage to Sammy Sanchez

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

ahahaha asif

Oh man, I went broke, even with amazing results.

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on a side note, i notice cyanide devolping game of thrones rts. I love that show. might try it. aka piratebay

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

yeah i had that as well, you have to be really carefull with finances. It kinda blows in this version

If you want no financial worries you can edit your savegame with the fast editor
Go to "dyn_manager" table and change finance_f_solde (or something similar), that's your current balance.

It's maybe cheating but since the financial/sponsor part hasn't been handled very well (there was not enough time), i don't find it bad or game ruining. Unless you ofcourse go buy every star there is

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

yeah i had that as well, you have to be really carefull with finances. It kinda blows in this version

If you want no financial worries you can edit your savegame with the fast editor
Go to "dyn_manager" table and change finance_f_solde (or something similar), that's your current balance.

It's maybe cheating but since the financial/sponsor part hasn't been handled very well (there was not enough time), i don't find it bad or game ruining. Unless you ofcourse go buy every star there is

i'll probably do that, it's kinda annoying. I don't even have a high-profile team.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I'm trying to win all 3 GT in 1 year with Robert Gesink and level hard.

So far so good. The Giro was easy crushing the opposition with awesome tempo climbing

Giro d'Italia result

1 Robert Gesink Rabobank 93h52'56 RumBepalen
2 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 6'36
3 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Isd + 10'04
4 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 12'03
5 Jelle Vanendert Omega Pharma - Lotto + 12'50
6 Francesco Masciarelli Pro Team Astana + 34'58
7 Marco Pinotti HTC - Highroad + 35'14
8 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Omega Pharma - Lotto + 37'02
9 Peter Velits HTC - Highroad + 39'13
10 Dario Cataldo Quickstep + 41'44
11 Steven Kruijswijk Rabobank + 42'28 RumBepalen
12 Rubén Plaza Movistar Team + 43'43
13 Denis Menchov Geox - TMC + 53'20
14 Christophe Le Mével Team Garmin - Cervélo + 56'54
15 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale + 57'19

(123 finished, Gesink won 6 stages and all classifications!)
Note that in the DB, both Evans and Basso are rated better than Gesink and Scarponi/Van den Broeck/Nibali aren't much worse normally.

 

[bicing]

I'm trying to win all 3 GT in 1 year with Robert Gesink and level hard.

So far so good. The Giro was easy crushing the opposition with awesome tempo climbing

Giro d'Italia result

1 Robert Gesink Rabobank 93h52'56 RumBepalen
2 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 6'36
3 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Isd + 10'04
4 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 12'03
5 Jelle Vanendert Omega Pharma - Lotto + 12'50
6 Francesco Masciarelli Pro Team Astana + 34'58
7 Marco Pinotti HTC - Highroad + 35'14
8 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Omega Pharma - Lotto + 37'02
9 Peter Velits HTC - Highroad + 39'13
10 Dario Cataldo Quickstep + 41'44
11 Steven Kruijswijk Rabobank + 42'28 RumBepalen
12 Rubén Plaza Movistar Team + 43'43
13 Denis Menchov Geox - TMC + 53'20
14 Christophe Le Mével Team Garmin - Cervélo + 56'54
15 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale + 57'19

(123 finished, Gesink won 6 stages and all classifications!)
Note that in the DB, both Evans and Basso are rated better than Gesink and Scarponi/Van den Broeck/Nibali aren't much worse normally.

Awesome performance right there! I wonder, why is Francesco Masciarelli rated so highly in PCM (he was in the 09 normal db and I presume he is in this version because he finished 6th), yet he does next to nothing in real life??

 

[Parrulo]

I'm trying to win all 3 GT in 1 year with Robert Gesink and level hard.

So far so good. The Giro was easy crushing the opposition with awesome tempo climbing

Giro d'Italia result

1 Robert Gesink Rabobank 93h52'56 RumBepalen
2 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 6'36
3 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Isd + 10'04
4 Ivan Basso Liquigas - Cannondale + 12'03
5 Jelle Vanendert Omega Pharma - Lotto + 12'50
6 Francesco Masciarelli Pro Team Astana + 34'58
7 Marco Pinotti HTC - Highroad + 35'14
8 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Omega Pharma - Lotto + 37'02
9 Peter Velits HTC - Highroad + 39'13
10 Dario Cataldo Quickstep + 41'44
11 Steven Kruijswijk Rabobank + 42'28 RumBepalen
12 Rubén Plaza Movistar Team + 43'43
13 Denis Menchov Geox - TMC + 53'20
14 Christophe Le Mével Team Garmin - Cervélo + 56'54
15 Vincenzo Nibali Liquigas - Cannondale + 57'19

(123 finished, Gesink won 6 stages and all classifications!)
Note that in the DB, both Evans and Basso are rated better than Gesink and Scarponi/Van den Broeck/Nibali aren't much worse normally.

this look like some really realistic results

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I always laugh when people say that. Look at the Vuelta past 2 years... really realistic results... or does real life have a bad DB? Cobo and Froome

Anyway... I failed to win the Tour. Contador was very strong and on Alpe d'Huez I played suicide with Gesink to try and win it. Schleck/Evans profited and bumped him off podium

Tour de France

1 Alberto Contador Saxo Bank - Sungard 85h59'25
2 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 1'55
3 Andy Schleck Leopard - Trek + 3'18
4 Robert Gesink Rabobank + 4'05 RumBepalen
5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Omega Pharma - Lotto + 5'33
6 Bradley Wiggins Sky Pro Cycling + 6'52
7 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 7'52
8 Pierre Rolland Team Europcar + 11'30
9 Chris Horner Team RadioShack + 12'01
10 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Isd + 12'18

However, Gesink got revenge on Contabore in the Vuelta.

Vuelta a Espana

1 Robert Gesink Rabobank 89h34'03 RumBepalen
2 Alberto Contador Saxo Bank - Sungard + 2'01
3 Joaquin Rodriguez Katusha Team + 8'41
4 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 8'44
5 Igor Anton Euskaltel - Euskadi + 11'38
6 John Gadret Ag2r La Mondiale + 25'04
7 Tejay Van Garderen HTC - Highroad + 25'09
8 Fränk Schleck Leopard - Trek + 26'05
9 Janez Brajkovic Team RadioShack + 29'41
10 Wout Poels Vacansoleil - DMC Pro Cycling Team + 38'16

 

[Tuarts]

Tbf, for a game trying to mimic real life it doesn't do too badly. Sure some of those times seem exaggerated compared to real life but the order of riders is more or less realistic. The only other sports games that's closer to realistic results that comes to mind if Football Manager, never played a FIFA game that successfully emulates the sport its covering. Even though one gripe I have is that if someone like Basso goes in a warm up race, 9 time out 10 he ends up trying to win it, even though he's only there to build up form. Only speaking from experience up to '09 so could have changed in latest releases.

 

[ramjambunath]

I played the '10 version and recovery did not play that important a role, especially in the final ITT of a Grand Tour as Lofkvist regularly was in the top 3 and Schleck was beating Nibali in the ITT (in extreme difficulty though tbf).

I had the dominance problem with Andy Schleck winning everything, Tirreno Tour of Romandie Criterium international and TdF. Van Avermaet became a top level sprinter challenging Cavendish ending up at Euskaltel with Farrar. I hope they fixed the Euskaltel error in '11.

Chapeau Dekker, that's a pretty stellar season.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I played the '10 version and recovery did not play that important a role, especially in the final ITT of a Grand Tour as Lofkvist regularly was in the top 3 and Schleck was beating Nibali in the ITT (in extreme difficulty though tbf).

I had the dominance problem with Andy Schleck winning everything, Tirreno Tour of Romandie Criterium international and TdF. Van Avermaet became a top level sprinter challenging Cavendish ending up at Euskaltel with Farrar. I hope they fixed the Euskaltel error in '11.

Chapeau Dekker, that's a pretty stellar season.

Top riders can still win races in lesser form, but in 11 I do notice Contador finishing way down in preparation races when he's not there. It's way less anyway.

You definately won't see Andy winning preperation races fast

 

[Midnightfright]

I always laugh when people say that. Look at the Vuelta past 2 years... really realistic results... or does real life have a bad DB? Cobo and Froome

Anyway... I failed to win the Tour. Contador was very strong and on Alpe d'Huez I played suicide with Gesink to try and win it. Schleck/Evans profited and bumped him off podium

Tour de France

1 Alberto Contador Saxo Bank - Sungard 85h59'25
2 Cadel Evans BMC Racing Team + 1'55
3 Andy Schleck Leopard - Trek + 3'18
4 Robert Gesink Rabobank + 4'05 RumBepalen
5 Jurgen Van Den Broeck Omega Pharma - Lotto + 5'33
6 Bradley Wiggins Sky Pro Cycling + 6'52
7 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 7'52
8 Pierre Rolland Team Europcar + 11'30
9 Chris Horner Team RadioShack + 12'01
10 Michele Scarponi Lampre - Isd + 12'18

However, Gesink got revenge on Contabore in the Vuelta.

Vuelta a Espana

1 Robert Gesink Rabobank 89h34'03 RumBepalen
2 Alberto Contador Saxo Bank - Sungard + 2'01
3 Joaquin Rodriguez Katusha Team + 8'41
4 Samuel Sánchez Euskaltel - Euskadi + 8'44
5 Igor Anton Euskaltel - Euskadi + 11'38
6 John Gadret Ag2r La Mondiale + 25'04
7 Tejay Van Garderen HTC - Highroad + 25'09
8 Fränk Schleck Leopard - Trek + 26'05
9 Janez Brajkovic Team RadioShack + 29'41
10 Wout Poels Vacansoleil - DMC Pro Cycling Team + 38'16

Whatl level do you play on DT? That's some good results and puts mine to shame altough my mighty FDJ team has just secured 5th in the tour de France with Casar I do think the 7 minutes gained in a breakaway helped.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

I play on hard.

Hard is a tad too easy for me, but I don't like extreme at all.

 

[will10]

+1, some very odd gameplay on Extreme with this version, always used to play extreme (even edited to make 09 harder! ) but not with 2011.

currently flying high with Quintana Henao and Duarte in 2013 with CEP in protour

 

[Midnightfright]

I play on hard.

Hard is a tad too easy for me, but I don't like extreme at all.

Yeah same here I do sometimes switch back to extreme when in feeling particuarly brave but always end up back playing on hard.

 

[The Hitch]

Question about the fitness indicator.

How important is it and is it just random.

When i read about it and started to pay attention to it, it started to **** me off as i am 70000 in debt and im only in March of my first season, so i need to win every race or go bankrupt (i assume that means games end).

But you finaly get to a race where you have a chance of winning ( I am Androni so face Pro tour teams pretty much every race) and your leaders indicator will go to -3 and your screwed. Meanwhile a domestique gets + 4.

But when I quit and restart the game, all the riders indicators are totaly different. My leader might get a +1 for example. Sometimes he gets a +3 and then it goes down to +1.

All other variables are the same but the riders fitness indicators change completely/

So as I understand it, this fitness indicator is like a very annoying bug. Something that can just eliminate your rider from the race.

In real life if I have Gilbert going into a hilly classic I can use him to try to win the race. Cavendish goes into a sprint and hes likely to win it. Here if the PCM dice decides to throw Gilbert or Cave a negative score, they have no chance to win the race.

In the real world Katusha for example spent a whole day working for Rodriguez and he came up with the goods in Escortial and Jaen.

In the PCM world they would spend 20 minutes setting up everything at the begining of the stage then find out half way through theyve wasted their time because Puritos PCM ranking of random comes up with a -3

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

No, it isn't a 'fitness indicator'

It's form of the day. If your rider has 95pts form it still doesn't matter if his form of the day is -5. He will still be super strong

It's just like in real life and I really like it. AI has bad days too this way. However, Contador in the Tour on a +5 day isn't pretty
Definately NOT a bug. Cavendish can win on -5 days, Gilbert as well. No idea where you get the idea that maybe they can't

 

[bicing]

Question about the fitness indicator.

How important is it and is it just random.

When i read about it and started to pay attention to it, it started to **** me off as i am 70000 in debt and im only in March of my first season, so i need to win every race or go bankrupt (i assume that means games end).

But you finaly get to a race where you have a chance of winning ( I am Androni so face Pro tour teams pretty much every race) and your leaders indicator will go to -3 and your screwed. Meanwhile a domestique gets + 4.

But when I quit and restart the game, all the riders indicators are totaly different. My leader might get a +1 for example. Sometimes he gets a +3 and then it goes down to +1.

All other variables are the same but the riders fitness indicators change completely/

So as I understand it, this fitness indicator is like a very annoying bug. Something that can just eliminate your rider from the race.

In real life if I have Gilbert going into a hilly classic I can use him to try to win the race. Cavendish goes into a sprint and hes likely to win it. Here if the PCM dice decides to throw Gilbert or Cave a negative score, they have no chance to win the race.

In the real world Katusha for example spent a whole day working for Rodriguez and he came up with the goods in Escortial and Jaen.

In the PCM world they would spend 20 minutes setting up everything at the begining of the stage then find out half way through theyve wasted their time because Puritos PCM ranking of random comes up with a -3

The fitness +- thing is just an excuse for the fact that you haven't figured out the game and strategy yet. With practice and persistence Hitch, one day you'll get good at the game...

 

[Midnightfright]

Wait a minute how do you figure out the form of the day? I've been playing it a while as well.

 

[Tuarts]

It's not fitness it's form on the day or even morale. It's the number that pops up next to your heart rate, it starts the day as a "-" then through the race it goes into an arrow, then a number, then a number in a coloured box. Things like attacking and putting your rider in the break early means that he discovers his form quicker than normal. It's all entirely random and all it means is that if you're a sprinter you may sprint for that bit longer/shorter depending on your morale but it doesn't have an effect on ability.

 

[craig1985]

Has all the bugs from the previous versions where the game would crash at random times been fixed? For me I found that it happened in the PT races, I never downloaded the previous version because of this, but had the '09 version and just used the patches to update the game.

 

[Michielveedeebee]

Has all the bugs from the previous versions where the game would crash at random times been fixed? For me I found that it happened in the PT races, I never downloaded the previous version because of this, but had the '09 version and just used the patches to update the game.

No crashes yet here during races

 

[Midnightfright]

It's not fitness it's form on the day or even morale. It's the number that pops up next to your heart rate, it starts the day as a "-" then through the race it goes into an arrow, then a number, then a number in a coloured box. Things like attacking and putting your rider in the break early means that he discovers his form quicker than normal. It's all entirely random and all it means is that if you're a sprinter you may sprint for that bit longer/shorter depending on your morale but it doesn't have an effect on ability.

Aaah thank you. I'm wonder It will give my Skil-Shimano team any luck.